Who can beat current Madara?

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Who can beat current Madara?

Who is the weakest anime/manga character who can defeat current Madara? Death note or things like that don't count. He gets his 6 paths and all of his abilities. He can use any tactic including BFR.

I think he can beat people far above the "naruto universe" power level thanks to the extremely cheap abilities at his disposal.

are we allowing sharingan techniques to work on non-chakra having characters?

Yeah.

Hm, tough one... I'm thinking of some that can do it but would be major overkill, but I'm having more problem with 'weakest'.

Perhaps someone from Tenchi Muyo, who have demonstrated the ability to drag people out of space warps at higher level.

I think the Espada are a good match up. They have garganta so BFR is useless, and since they are menos pulling out a soul will hardly phase them. Barragan in particular is a strong candidate since his time manipulation is the perfect counter for izanagi. I think Madara would beat any of the shinigami though.

how would he beat Tosen? 😛

Just teleport out of the sphere. Then he could use a chibaku and swallow the entire bankai whole.

Though now that I remembered his genjutsu, I think the espada could fall as well. He entranced Yagura who was supposedly immune to genjutsu, while the espada's illusion resistance is zip.

wasn't even thinking about Tosen's Bankai. Tosen can't see so sharingan is useless.

That's just one power, at this point just one of many. Currently he has his paths, which means six jinchuuriki abilities.

Originally posted by marwash22
wasn't even thinking about Tosen's Bankai. Tosen can't see so sharingan is useless.

He doesn't even need it to beat him. He can just use his rinnegan and space/time.

Originally posted by Q99
Perhaps someone from Tenchi Muyo, who have demonstrated the ability to drag people out of space warps at higher level.
Who from Tenchi Muyo...? I ask this because most characters I can recall would easily crush Madara. 😐

Originally posted by NemeBro
Who from Tenchi Muyo...? I ask this because most characters I can recall would easily crush Madara. 😐

Yea, that's the problem. A bunch of them can do it, but it's still enough overkill that I doubt they're the 'weakest'.

How would Aizen stack up against Current Madara?

Ukoku Sanzo? He's got spatial manip as well.

I think Aizen would win due to his shikai. Of course, who knows. Maybe Madara would actually get off his illusions first since he just needs to look while Aizen needs to speak. It would be a good fight. Nobody in Bleach has defenses against illusions, so maybe a sharingan user in bleach would have been effective against kyoka suigetsu. There's really no way to know. I do know that a soul-rip should be effective against Aizen.

I'm not familiar with Saiyuki. What powers does he have that would be effective?

Sharingan should be able to see through his Shikai just fine. So I don't think Aizen could be Madara personally.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I think Aizen would win due to his shikai. Of course, who knows. Maybe Madara would actually get off his illusions first since he just needs to look while Aizen needs to speak. It would be a good fight. Nobody in Bleach has defenses against illusions, so maybe a sharingan user in bleach would have been effective against kyoka suigetsu. There's really no way to know. I do know that a soul-rip should be effective against Aizen.

I'm not familiar with Saiyuki. What powers does he have that would be effective?

With the Hogyoku embedded, Aizen is likely beyond any attack of Madara's, minus that Soul Rip. But that requires Madara to physically restrain him, and I doubt that's going to happen.

Immunity to attacks/negation of attacks, Spatial manipulation/negation, and the ability to remove anything within a certain range from existence.
Also, some of the higher tier characters from the Samurai Deeper Kyo series could beat Madara, but most of them are >>> Aizen, so it wouldn't answer your question, assuming Aizen can beat Madara.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Sharingan should be able to see through his Shikai just fine. So I don't think Aizen could be Madara personally.

How would the Sharingan see through his Shikai?
As far as we know, it's pretty much unbeatable, and like only one person has even realized that they were under hypnosis, but they were still unable to break the hypnosis.

Even if Aizen cannot damage Madara due to Izanagi, it's not like Madara can damage Aizen either.

Well, it was unbeatable to bleach. But it is not like anyone in bleach really has any protection from it either. While recognizing you are in an illusion and dispelling it is a key part of ninja training, and the sharingan only enhances that. I'm not so sure Aizen can beat him.

Madara could possibly get a win by entrancing Aizen as well.

Tell me about these samurai deeper kyo guys?

Meh, I'm still not sure how Madara could beat Aizen's shikai well I'm not convinced anyway. Madara would have to touch Aizen's sword in order to get out of the effect plus he's a speedster in his verse as well. Probably not as fast as Minato's FTG but he.

I'd wager Hao Asakura would destroy current Madara. Hao with Spirit of Fire has the destructive power and resources to put Madara down for good IMO based on what he's shown.

I do wonder about the Samurai Deeper Kyo's powers. I only saw the anime so I don't have a good assesment over their powers.

I think Hao would stomp. When I talk about cheap abilities, Hao makes Madara look reasonable.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
How would the Sharingan see through his Shikai?
As far as we know, it's pretty much unbeatable, and like only one person has even realized that they were under hypnosis, but they were still unable to break the hypnosis.

Even if Aizen cannot damage Madara due to Izanagi, it's not like Madara can damage Aizen either.

Well, the sharingan allows the user to see through illusions. His Shikai is merely a very convoluted illusion. An experienced sharingan user like Madara wouldn't likely have any problem with it.

He can remove his soul with a touch. Or Shinra Tensei him until he dies.