Originally posted by King Kandy
Well, it was unbeatable to bleach. But it is not like anyone in bleach really has any protection from it either. While recognizing you are in an illusion and dispelling it is a key part of ninja training, and the sharingan only enhances that. I'm not so sure Aizen can beat him.
Yea, no-one in Bleach has an illusion breaker, and we saw from Unohana that sufficiently good observation can notice something's off.
An illusion-breaker eye in 7 bodies (main Madara + paths) that also give the user superhuman analysis of details?
Thow in stuff like Deva Pain's all-direction push so he doesn't even need to know a foe's precise location, and that power isn't of much use at all here.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Well, the sharingan allows the user to see through illusions. His Shikai is merely a very convoluted illusion. An experienced sharingan user like Madara wouldn't likely have any problem with it.He can remove his soul with a touch. Or Shinra Tensei him until he dies.
Fair enough.
With a touch? Lol no. Madara needs to restrain Aizen to kill him like that, and that isn't happening. Aizen is simply too fast and strong for Madara, and whichever Jinchuurikii is Madara's Human Path. Too fast for Gedo Mazo's dragon as well.
This is a guy that's more than fast enough to blitz Madara from the start of the match. Plus with the Hogyoku in his chest, Madara's not damaging him with something like ST, or restraining him with CT.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Well, it was unbeatable to bleach. But it is not like anyone in bleach really has any protection from it either. While recognizing you are in an illusion and dispelling it is a key part of ninja training, and the sharingan only enhances that. I'm not so sure Aizen can beat him.Madara could possibly get a win by entrancing Aizen as well.
Tell me about these samurai deeper kyo guys?
Possibly, but Madara's Mind-reading soul rip is about the only thing that can work against Aizen, so if he traps him, he will have to use Human Path's ability. Alternatively, I can make the case that the Hogyoku is Aizen's partner to counter genjutsu. We've seen that Reiryoku can undergo a change when transformations occur, and we've seen that the Hogyoku can transform Aizen on it's own will.
A Mid-high tier is a Lightning dodger, with Higher tier characters being faster.
Some of them have time-stops (game-breaker against Madara); petrification on sight (think Medusa - Sharingan will not stop this shit, but Izanagi could work); Thermokinesis (to the point where they can apparently lower the temp to below 0K); using one's blood droplets to create an army of indestructible constructs; an attack that if missed or blocked, will near-instantly return even stronger than before.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Repeated usage. 😮Or use the Petra Path ability to suck him dry.
Anyway, I (semi)change my answer. Weakest foe who can beat him would be Naruto and/or Sasuke. D'oh.
Naruto because Madara currently has Hashirama's cells. One hit from Naruto in his Kyuubi mode, and Madara's turning into a tree. 313
Naruto can keep doing this until Madara runs out of chakra for Izanagi.
Sasuke because he's > Naruto. vin
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I don't read Hellsing, but apparently that Alucard guy has quantum reality manip, or something like that. How powerful is he otherwise?
That's only for Alucard but it make him virtually omni-present and allows him to be virtually unkillable. Doesn't actually make him powerful though.
It means that Alucard is nigh-invincible. It doesn't have any offensive capabilities but it just means theres almost no way he can be killed. He can be everywhere. He can be in your mind. As long as he recognises himself he's unkillable, because he thinks he exists and so he does. And as a Hellsing Vamp he has illusion resistence, so Genjutsu is out.
Originally posted by Nephthys
It means that Alucard is nigh-invincible. It doesn't have any offensive capabilities but it just means theres almost no way he can be killed. He can be everywhere. He can be in your mind. As long as he recognises himself he's unkillable, because he thinks he exists and so he does. And as a Hellsing Vamp he has illusion resistence, so Genjutsu is out.
Can he suggests thoughts to you once he is in your mind?
If not, and if genjutsu is out, then this becomes a long-ass staring contest, one which Alucard eventually wins.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Resistance to weak illusions you meant.In regards to stealing Aizen's soul... Really?
Am I honestly the person who must point out this ****ing obvious detail?
Aizen's body IS a soul. 😐 A moving, functioning soul, that is just fine without a body.
Soul stealing won't do shit.
Aizen wins.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Resistance to weak illusions you meant.
Meh, are Madara's illusions really that much greater than Butch Chicks? I don't think he has anything that would cause Alucard to forget that he still exists.
Can he suggests thoughts to you once he is in your mind?
No, he's just.... in there. Literally in there. Just chillin' out and slacking off in the recesses of you mind. It's kind of wierd.
Ahem yourself.
Umm honestly please give me any feats to say that Alucard cannot damage madara because i'd sure as hell bet my money alucard would woop him post-shrodinger that is thanks to his BS where he cant be killed off.and yes Aizen could easily blitz madara so unless he has preptime its an instant lose for madara against aizen.