Who can beat current Madara?

Originally posted by carver9
Aizen blitz at the beginning of the fight before he even get the chance to use his powers and hit him with a city destroying sword swipe. Fight is over and done. What level of damage has he taken to presume he could survive a single hit from Aizen?

Phasing or Izanagi. He cannot take hits from Aizen obviously, nor can he keep up with his speed, but phasing will work against Aizen's attacks. Then there's Izanagi which will render damage moot, if it's active.

Originally posted by SquallX
Right now no one in Naruto, Bleach, or One Piece can beat Madara.

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Naruto - Eventually, Naruto will be able to beat Madara. Kabuto's also certain that he can best Madara, but that's not exactly accountable.
Then there's the Sage of the Six Paths, who while not as broken as Madara, is far far far more powerful.

Bleach - Anyone with high speed is capable of blitzing Madara from the start, before he activates Izanagi, or his phasing. I still maintan that Madara is incapable of damaging people like Aizen, Yamamoto, & Post-Jinzen Ichigo.
I'd wager that Tsukishima could use his Book of the End to make Madara his friend.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Noone made an obvious joke about this. I am very disappointed in you all.

Don't you know? Internets debates are SRS BZNS.

Besides, Aizen would rather use Konan, than Preta path.

your mom.

I question the idea of blitzing faster than he can phase, as well. Apparently he just needs to pretty much think, and it will happen. Since he has super-slowed perceptions from the sharingan, I think he could activate against all but the most ungodly fast. Compare how Itachi could block lightning with a similar instantaneous technique.

As thread owner, I am making a change as well to settle this. he gets 1 second prep. I was looking for someone who could beat him despite his abilities, rather than someone who could avoid addressing them.

similarly, the whole soul stealing thing. He gets full use of all his abilities working. Nobodies mentioned the "does genjutsu work on chakraless characters" thing yet, but again, it works for this thread.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I question the idea of blitzing faster than he can phase, as well. Apparently he just needs to pretty much think, and it will happen. Since he has super-slowed perceptions from the sharingan, I think he could activate against all but the most ungodly fast. Compare how Itachi could block lightning with a similar instantaneous technique.

As thread owner, I am making a change as well to settle this. he gets 1 second prep. I was looking for someone who could beat him despite his abilities, rather than someone who could avoid addressing them.

similarly, the whole soul stealing thing. He gets full use of all his abilities working. Nobodies mentioned the "does genjutsu work on chakraless characters" thing yet, but again, it works for this thread.

Fair point. Phasing can still be gotten around though, and I'd wager that Aizen would figure it out.

1 second prep. To activate Izanagi from the get-go? Then Aizen keeps killing him until Madara runs out of chakra. I still maintain that Madara has no way of putting down Aizen, outside of the now-viable Soul Rip (right?), which involves him restraining Aizen, which isn't happening.

Well, with one second he could just enter the field phased, was my thinking.

Assume the soul rip works unless a character actually has some kind of demonstrable defense to those attacks.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Compare how Itachi could block lightning with a similar instantaneous technique.

please do not tell me you think Itachi is a lightning timer -__-

He isn't. Susano'o's activation on the other hand is.
That said, Zetsu stated that Lightning was merely hundreds of times faster than Sound. RW Lightning is hundreds of thousands of times faster than Sound.

Originally posted by Coco292
please do not tell me you think Itachi is a lightning timer -__-

Originally posted by King Kandy
similarly, the whole soul stealing thing. He gets full use of all his abilities working. Nobodies mentioned the "does genjutsu work on chakraless characters" thing yet, but again, it works for this thread.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Fast enough to think about activating the technique... which is all it took in this case, and all it takes for Madara as well.

The thought to form Susano'o could have formed in his head once Sasuke told him what he intended to do with Kirin. Susano'o's activation time being faster than Naruto-verse Lightning speed, is the only thing we can be certain of.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Is this in reference to my refutating of the idea of Aizen having his soul stolen?

I'm guessing so.

Kaito, from Yu Yu Hakusho would beat Madara. easily.

What if someone nuke the area that he is in, will his intangible body aid him from this type of destruction?

Originally posted by carver9
What if someone nuke the area that he is in, will his intangible body aid him from this type of destruction?

I don't see why it wouldn't.

marwash22
Kaito, from Yu Yu Hakusho would beat Madara. easily.

Mm, seems like his Taboos would be too easy for Madara to get around.

Warp out of the area and attack from the outside, for one. Genjutsu him into dropping or violating them, too.

Originally posted by carver9
What if someone nuke the area that he is in, will his intangible body aid him from this type of destruction?

Yes. But he'd die from the nuclear fallout anyway I'd wager 😛

Originally posted by carver9
What if someone nuke the area that he is in, will his intangible body aid him from this type of destruction?

Considering it already has, yes.

Anyone with decent plant control should beat Madara.

D could probably find a way to beat Madara. Though...that is using knowledge from the books...

Sasuke can beat Current Madara because that's how Madara goes down.

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Originally posted by Bentley
Anyone with decent plant control should beat Madara.