James Howlett vs. Eric Brooks

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
If that's the case, I don't see how this supports Wolverine becoming some sort of supervampire which would backfire on Blade. But by the same token, it's possible untreated Wolverine blood might weaken Blade and backfire that way. Maybe that's why Blade was going to utilize a syringe?

You're right it doesn't. Wolverine won't become a "super vampire" because the evidence at hand shows that thanks to his healing factor he likely won't become a vampire at all, and if he did it would only be for a few seconds. The "super vampire" is just a hypothetical outcome in a series of events in which Wolverine actually managed to become a vampire while his powers were active... but those very same powers prevent that from happening in the first place.

There may be conflicting accounts but far as I can recall Blade, as a dampire, is unable to sire new vampires with his own blood or bite, hence the syringe.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
If that's the case, I don't see how this supports Wolverine becoming some sort of supervampire which would backfire on Blade. But by the same token, it's possible untreated Wolverine blood might weaken Blade and backfire that way. Maybe that's why Blade was going to utilize a syringe?

Blade rarely feasts on people, he hates vampires, hates that he is one, but makes the best of it.

While it's possible Wolverine's blood would weaken Blade, the syringe is just easier to administer especially to a character like Wolverine who likes to get up close and personal

Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
You know, digging back through the Wolverine respect thread, it was actually Trackz who told me that it was nano-bots that had allowed Wolverine to be vampirized and that Scott turned back on Wolverine's healing factor with a push of a button.

He never did post the actual scans though. 🙁

Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk

It's just a bunch of exposition. We usually only post action heavy exploits, because if it is just a bunch of words that can be relaid easily enough in the text of a forum post.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It's just a bunch of exposition. We usually only post action heavy exploits, because if it is just a bunch of words that can be relaid easily enough in the text of a forum post.

True, but then it becomes a second hand source of the information and may not end up holding water when it's used to support an argument concerning people who have not read the same comic.

Blade just doesn't have what it takes to put down Wolverine. I can't see why or how it can be argued. It takes a lot to tax Logan's HF. And even in the event that his HF is taxed, Wolverine's will keeps him going longer.

Put it this way. Wolverine took on Omega Red for 17 hours of fighting and punishment... Wolverine went through all of that and I believe he faced and punk Blade some time not long after.

Seriously, if Wolverine took on 17 hours against Omega Red, what is Blade by himself gonna do to tax Wolverine's HF?

Take out Omega Red and put Blade there and it wouldn't have lasted an hour let alone 17 hours.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Blade just doesn't have what it takes to put down Wolverine. I can't see why or how it can be argued. It takes a lot to tax Logan's HF. And even in the event that his HF is taxed, Wolverine's will keeps him going longer.

Put it this way. Wolverine took on Omega Red for 17 hours of fighting and punishment... Wolverine went through all of that and I believe he faced and punk Blade some time not long after.

Seriously, if Wolverine took on 17 hours against Omega Red, what is Blade by himself gonna do to tax Wolverine's HF?

Take out Omega Red and put Blade there and it wouldn't have lasted an hour let alone 17 hours.

Wolverine's healing factor was no more taxed than it normally is since it's been shown he's always going back and forth between fights with little time to recover. You're assuming it was 17 hours.

Blade had just taken on Morbius and a Shield division prior to the fight.

After all that Blade figured out a way in which to put Logan down for good and lured Wolverine close enough to administer it. By the writer's own admission Blade closed the fight with an upper-hand despite it being a stalemate.

Why isn't this closed for spite?

Originally posted by Trackz
Wolverine's healing factor was no more taxed than it normally is since it's been shown he's always going back and forth between fights with little time to recover. You're assuming it was 17 hours.

He was weaken state and tired prior to the fight. He even stated that he went 15 rounds with omega red. It was clearly intended that he was not at 100% prior to the start of the fight.

Also this is simply wrong, his healing factor does not run off infinity energy, and has been explain several times.

Originally posted by Trackz
Blade had just taken on Morbius and a Shield division prior to the fight.

Originally posted by Trackz
After all that Blade figured out a way in which to put Logan down for good and lured Wolverine close enough to administer it. By the writer's own admission Blade closed the fight with an upper-hand despite it being a stalemate.

Also Wolverine was holding back against Blade which he won't be doing in this match up, notice how Wolverine pulls back his claw and Punches blade, instead of taking his head off
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5559/blade2gr2.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5953/blade3jk6.jpg

Originally posted by Trackz
Wolverine's healing factor was no more taxed than it normally is since it's been shown he's always going back and forth between fights with little time to recover. You're assuming it was 17 hours.

Blade had just taken on Morbius and a Shield division prior to the fight.

After all that Blade figured out a way in which to put Logan down for good and lured Wolverine close enough to administer it. By the writer's own admission Blade closed the fight with an upper-hand despite it being a stalemate.

Stalemate?? Uh no... And I'm not assuming anything, they fought for that long. You're not seeing it or just feel the way you do and won't reconsider.. But I'm telling you, man. Blade isn't taking Logan. Blade can put up a good enough fight but nothing more. His HF isn't like Wolverine, can't take what Logan can and doesn't have what it takes to put him down... Blade isn't Sabretooth, Omega Red, Cyber, Deadpool, Psylocke, Venom nor Daken. These characters could defeat Logan, not Blade. Wolverine's fighting ability is just off the charts with crazy damage soak.

A characters true test of skill and ability are measured by what they've faced. Let Blade trade his rouges for Wolverine's any day of the week. And we will see that he can't cut it.

Originally posted by carver9
Why isn't this closed for spite?

They've both got the tools to take each other down.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Because it is far from spite.

They've both got the tools to take each other down.

^ Yes, he does.

Blade is pretty good with his own stabby-stabs as well as his guns. Wolverine's lost to lesser opponents.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Yes, he does.

Blade is pretty good with his own stabby-stabs as well as his guns. Wolverine's lost to lesser opponents.

No he doesent.

He not as skilled, he does not have nearly the damage soak. Blade holds literraly not a single advantage, but holds many disadavntages. Fact Wolverine has perhaps loss to lesser opponents is irrelevent, that could be said of any character. Consistently Wolverien deals with better and more. Same can not be said of Blade, who deals with mostly cannon fodder, same cannon fodder wolverine destroys when fighting.

It u go over there showings, and power set, wolverine is superior in almost every senses. There is literrally zero reason to believe blade in a non prep senerio has a chance of winning against a superior and more skilled opponent. Hell even in there fight, Blade needed to rely on a plot device/one sided prep and still it was not even guaranteed to work and still Wolverine had to hold back for it to even be a fight, like withdrawing his claws mid swing, so he did not take blades head off, as shown in the scans I posted above.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Yes, he does.

Blade is pretty good with his own stabby-stabs as well as his guns. Wolverine's lost to lesser opponents.

Evidence? Please do post the scans to prove this statement.

^ If you guys believe Wolverine can't be beaten by someone who is arguably less skilled and has a relatively inferior healing factor, then I suggest you never read Wolverine comics again.

Then again, maybe you haven't.

Whatever, Blade shoots a bullet through the eye into the brain.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ If you guys believe Wolverine can't be beaten by someone who is arguably less skilled and has a relatively inferior healing factor, then I suggest you never read Wolverine comics again.

Then again, maybe you haven't.

Whatever, Blade shoots a bullet through the eye into the brain.

As I've said previous pages before, I'm just a facilitator for this debate.

Just words will not cut it as solid ground in this discussion, you must back up your claims with actual scans and on-panel feats.

And for the record, there is the Sphenoidale right behind each eye and would be coated in adamantium. You can't shoot Wolverine's brain through the eye.

1. Logan wins 8/10, Logan fought worse, his HF and Skeleton will protect him from Blades worst, he is also better at H2H.
2. Blade wins 9/10, with enough Prep he has enough options to overcome Logans HF.
3. Blade wins 8/10, same as 2 though maybe less luck.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Also Wolverine was holding back against Blade which he won't be doing in this match up, notice how Wolverine pulls back his claw and Punches blade, instead of taking his head off
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5559/blade2gr2.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5953/blade3jk6.jpg

Wolverine does that a lot against heroes, it's CIS and would probably happen in the fight where he's not berserk. Also notice Blade never vamps out.