orochi vs oni gill oro

Originally posted by coballes19
You're kidding right? You are saying what the story tells about Orochi is nothing to count. All you want is a feat. Nothing more, nothing less. You fail to justify what the actual story tells about him. That's the only reason why this thread keeps on going. Having a power to control everything earth can offer, how weak do you think that is?

Originally posted by coballes19
And sorry if you still don't get it, i haven't got an answer as to why Gen or Oro or Gouken is still alive

Originally posted by coballes19
despite you saying Akuma's punch can destroy a God like Orochi, whilst Orochi was never defeated in an all-brawl fashion which Akuma use to work out with.

Originally posted by coballes19
And yeah, He can rip soul and that's a common idea considering what he does in-game and you saying that doesn't count is seemingly stupid. I mean, it IS what he does in where he come from, the game! The game, I tell yah!

Originally posted by coballes19
And the whole cast of KOF combine? I don't know why you think KOF cast is a bunch of midget in terms of destructive level.

1. Orochi's divinity is never officially stated, thus never proven. This is why we don't take Gill's claims of God hood and savior as fact, until proven to be true.

2. A character's durability needs to be proven. Just because they have modest control over an element doesn't mean they can't be hurt by it.

3. Besides Iori goin nutz and chokin Orochi out, none of the specifics stated in this thread, by others, has ever been said (officially) to be true. There has never been any specifics on what occurred durin the fight with Orochi. Only that he fought and was sealed, that's it.

4. Orochi has to prove he's durable enough to withstand a punch from even normal Akuma. As it stands, a punch from Akuma would turn Orochi into puddy and he would die. Not to say that that's fact, only that Orochi lacks the showings to be put in fights with well established characters in the 1st place.

Orochi shouldn't be in versus threads, at all. Characters like Ash have far better showings and have accomplished much more in their time and that's a shame. It's also just a testament to how lil of Orochi is actually known and how much effort was actually put into his character.

Yes, it is true we know little about Orochi's background.

We do know, though, that Orochi is a genderless being that manifested from the Earth.

As far as feats:
He can harness the power of the Sun at will to harm his opponents.
He can instantly recharge his power.
And he instantly heals himself after ripping his chest to shreds.

YouTube video

Actually, Orochi does. In KOF 97 manga, Orochi was use very element to cover Yuki in a sphere of energy. The end result, many giant whirlwinds around and dozens of mountains destroyed. It's just to show Orochi controls earth, even light and dark.

Akuma's fights only categorizes 2 things: him being serious or not. Him being serious means he'll kill his opponent and him toying around the enemy if his not. Akuma was suppose to kill Gen, seeing him a worthy opponent, until he figured out that he is sick. That's how serious Akuma is. And yet, Gen survived Akuma's punches. Gen, a human, and a sick old man at that. Gouken, on the other hand, had his durability and destructive power never established. We can't say he is comparable to Akuma or not. His latest fight with Akuma was not shown. If you suggest that Gouken is at same power level as Akuma with only that, then you're deducing something despite the lack of feats. Anyway, the point is that Gouken survived Akuma's punches.

The manga adaptation of KOF is non-canon. Bringing it up would be like giving Akuma his meteor feat from Capcom Fighting Jam, which is non-canon as well.

Gouken surviving Akuma's punches either means his body is more durable than an entire island or Akuma was just holding back his power against him. In any case it doesn't change the fact Akuma could simply punch the Orochi with island destroying force and thus killing him.

Anyway, No End's post pretty much sealed off the argumentation for this thread so I'm done here.

The only non-canon part of the manga adaptation is who fights who and why throughout the tournament. The character's powers were not touched from the original story context. Meaning they still possess what they should.
Capcom fighting game, on the other hand, is a pure cross over series, in which Capcom has to change the level of some characters to fit with each other and on over all, nothing in Capcom fighting Jam is leaning towards SF story context, unlike KOF 97 Manga which actually derives it's events to the actual game, KOF 97, in which authors only added some events that made the manga twist over the original storyline. The facts are still present, Yuki was kidnapped, Orochi appeared, Kyo, Iori and Chizuru fought them and they all have the power they possess based on what the story tells.

Akuma is surely not holding back in the fight, specially considering Ryu is the prize, the very person he's interested in. On Gen's situation on the other hand, is as to why a sick old man is seemingly alive after receiving punches from Akuma.

Oh and about the island, who knows what structure that island has. Heck! Who knows. The island must have been very weak due to Akuma very long stay in there, training for a long time, and the Island having hollow parts.

And yeah, I guess this argumentation is better off sealed...