Originally posted by His Airness
I fell the same for you. 🙁Nope, Thor.
When did Thor survive in the Sun?
Originally posted by His Airness
Which one does Wolverine fall under, because one punch from Thor and Wolverine will be in orbit?
I'm going to assume the last half of that is supposed to be a statement and not a question.
I like how you people assume that every punch kick or strike Thor lands will send Logan into orbit... It's a coput and not even a logical one...
Thor probably won't land a haymaker punch.. He's not as good a fighter as Wolverine but he's still a good fighter.. Throwing everything you've got into a punch is a gambit. And, against Wolverine, who's once again faster, a better fighter, and has better reflexes, Thor can't afford to miss.
Aside from that every shot that Thor lands has to be an upward one, since they ARE fighting in an arena setting and the wall will slow if not stop Wolverine's motion.
Finally.. try to punch a baseball and tell me how far it goes.. garanteed it's not going near as far as you can throw it...
Stating that one punch from Thor is going to send Wolverine into orbit is reaching plain and simple.. It's said that you have to give Thor the benefit of that doubt just so that he can win here. 😬
Originally posted by His Airness
As Said, Hulk is durable, however is HF plays a large part in this. I recall many times Hulk has been ko'd, and just utterly destroyed but survived because of his ability to heal from his wounds.
You don't get it... Yes he heals from wounds.. so what he's STILL "super durable" as you put it.
The whole point of bringing Hulk up as a comparison to Thor is to demonstrate that Wolverine can cut people as durable as Thor, so he'll very much be able to cut Thor...
Unless you can provide evidence that Thor's more durable vs. piercing and penetrating effeciency, than you're whole point on Hulk's healing factor is irrelivent..
Again Hulk's proven more durability against that then Thor...
Originally posted by His Airness
So he'll cut Thor, so what? Cuts wont stop him, and there's nothing supporting the idea that Wolverine can inflict any fatal blows to Thor.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
This is absolutely ridiculous...
Wolverine has COMPLETELY RUN THROUGH
Namor,
Hulk,
Wendigo,
Death's Head 2,
Grey Hulk,
Thing,
He's dropped Hercules,
KOed abomination.
Ripped through Tony's IM armor.
I can't believe you're making me pull this out.
landed a kill shot on THANOS.
Cut Rune King Thor.
You're acting like the only cut's Wolverine's capible of inflicting will be superficial ones.... Which is in a word ridiculous since Thor's durability STILL needs to be PROVEN past the point of a bullet when it comes to penetrating weaponry.
Originally posted by His Airness
And once again I say this.you can speculate for as long as you please, but the fact remains that Wolverine has only shown capable of cutting Thor. Also, using Hulk as an example as to why Wolverine can cut Thor is completely useless as Hulk on average isn't as durable as Thor. Just count how many times each has been ko'd, cut, near death, etc.
Absolute bullocks.
By your logic... Kitty Pride has been near death, KOed or cut less than Hulk.. therefore she's more durable... pffftt...
What a copout bowl of bullocks.
Hulk's durability can be PROVEN, He's durability is by and large BETTER than Thor's when it comes to penetrating proficiency.. Prove otherwise.
Originally posted by His Airness
That scans didn't show the bullet going through Thor....
It showed the bullet make penetration and Thor being affected.. It showed enough.
Originally posted by His Airness
Never said bullets inflict more damage,
you implied it.
Originally posted by His Airness
however I did say it's easier to inflict a fatal wound with a bullet. For example Captain America. he can most likely survive a swipe from Wolverine to the chest. Now stand point blank with a shotgun and do the same. Which do you think he'll survive?
So a superficial swipe is the same as a point blank shot gun blast? 😕
How about a point blank shot gun blast vs. Wolverine running CA through with both sets of claws?
That's more comparible and both probably fatal.. that proves nothing.
Originally posted by His Airness
I'm done arguing with you as I see it's a useless cause. You'll continue to believe your favorite character is unbeatable, but I'll be a realist and say Thor throws, punches, or kicks Wolverine into orbit 10/10.
Yes because it's so realistic to think that Thor takes this 10/10 much less at all..
It's not a useless cause to debate with me if you bring proof to the table.. I'm not being unreasonable in asking for it either. But so far all you've done is set out a bunch of preconcieved misconceptions on characters without the proof to back up the claims...
No one said Wolverine is unbeatable.. In fact I flat out gave some example of characters I think can take Logan, All quite a bit under the level of Thor.. but Thor IS STRIPPED of the best parts of his arsenal, He DOESN'T have range, He ISN'T as good a fighter, and he's NOT as fast as Wolverine... Wolverine CAN take a class 100 punch, he MOST LIKELY won't end up in orbit from anything that Thor hits him with. He's LESS LIKELY to be hit in this fight. Wolverine IS more agile, IS a smaller target, and IS a better fighter....
And in spite of what you may think of me personally these are all facts... At the end of the day the fight boils down to this:
Originally posted by leonidas
because i'm bored, i'm gonna play wolvie's advocate. actually, i'v enot heard a lot of compelling arguments from thor-people. it's the same old "thor's too strong", "thor's too powerful", but with nothing to back up anything anyone is saying. let's check out a couple of wolvie facts:-he's beaten hercules (canon) 😠
-he's gone h2h with namor twice and NOT been ko'd
-he's messed with hulk LOADS of times and in a what if, killed him. hulk has NOT done well against him. in fact, wolvie did better against hulk than THOR did without his hammer! hulk has smashed him repeatedly, but wolvie did not fall or get ko'd.
-in three shots, wolvie has taken down the abomination
-he's gone h2h with wendigo
-he's cut thor, and from all appearances, thor was pretty badly hurt, though not to say disabled in anyway
-he's cut thanos
-he's carved up hulk
-his speed and skill is enough to repeatedly tag spiderman, speed demon and quicksilver
now, thor is not using ANY magic, he's fighting just h2h. thor is faster? proof, anyone? thor is a more skilled fighter? proof anyone? because despite his years, i'd give skill to wolvierine. a 1000 years fighting the same style and the same style opponents does not equate to tremendous fighting skills. so thor tried to throw him into orbit -- gets sliced. now what does he do? and wolverine IS capable to putting a hurting on him if he claws thor's eyes, or puts a claw in his ear.
so, if you think thor is faster, prove it. if you think thor is more skilled, prove it. wolverine specializes in this type of fight. thor is NOT invulnerable, does not have the speed to dodge all the attacks (unless someone proves otherwise), so it is likely he will get tagged. can he do enough damage to thor before thor really gets hold of him . . .?
And thus far not one person as come forth to prove SHIT on behalf of Thor, other than,, he's really really strong. pffft.
