Thor (without Mjolnir) VS Wolverine

Started by Alfheim78 pages
Originally posted by Badabing
No, that's it? You really are tired. 🙁

Yeah I guess. Especially when its to do with Wolverine. Hes getting koed he not gettign koed. his healing factor is depleted, he was mind controlled...beating people he shouldnt in 3 panels..outsmarting people who are smarter than him, cutting Thanos with IG........blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah.

Anyway its seems for the most part when he takes that many shots from a class 100 he shoudl be down.....or not.....maybe. Somebodies gonna tell me hes fought some demon god.

Originally posted by Gorbag
Wolverine's true potential unleashed by Hydra. Since that he's more formidable than ever... and during Civil War saga he got beaten by Namor only 'cause "fishman" 🤣 got help from another Atlantan... so we all see that majority in this fight should be given to Logan.

*sigh* .......great.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah I guess. Especially when its to do with Wolverine. Hes getting koed he not gettign koed. his healing factor is depleted, he was mind controlled...beating people he shouldnt in 3 panels..outsmarting people who are smarter than him, cutting Thanos with IG........blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah.

Anyway its seems for the most part when he takes that many shots from a class 100 he shoudl be down.....or not.....maybe. Somebodies gonna tell me hes fought some demon god.

*sigh* .......great.

Ic u re tired dude, Im not disrespecting ur opinion, sure both of them have high and low showings, however I give this fight to Logan. That demon god jin was talkin' about was probably Ba'al 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Gorbag
Ic u re tired dude, Im not disrespecting ur opinion, sure both of them have high and low showings, however I give this fight to Logan. That demon god jin was talkin' about was probably Ba'al 😮‍💨

Well hell I guess if I was a Wolverine fan id be saying the same thing as you guys, the problem is the inconsistency.

Originally posted by His Airness
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/atlantisattackspart13thkr8.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/atlantisattackspart13th4ev.jpg

Okay, haven't seen that before.

Originally posted by His Airness
Why do ou think Wolverine is even in the same class of speed as Thor?
Through the comparison of his fights with people Logan has fought.
Thor hasn't shown a large speed advantage to Namor.
Or hulk.
Or Juggs.
Or sparring Captain America.
Hulk clones? No.
Herc? Nope.

I would assume that if he had a speed advantage in these battles as well as many more, that he would have naturally used it at some point.
Wolverine's feats of speed in combat-terms far outclass anything that I've ever seen Thor produce... Now I've asked for proof to the contrary and there's not yet been a suitable reply that supplies said proof... I am then left to assume that Wolverine is superior in speed.

Originally posted by His Airness
Why do you think Wolverines reflexes are in the same league as Thor's?

For the same reason I stated above.. The only times I've seen Thor have far superior reflexes was through the use of Mjolnir... which he doesn't have here.

Originally posted by His Airness
Wolverine never cut Rune King Thor, he cut the much weaker King Thor. Even still, all he did was cut him.

Which proves he can cut him.

Originally posted by His Airness
You named some characters who's durability are inferior to Thor's, big deal.
Wait... did you just claim that Thanos, Hulk, and Herc are all inferior to Thor?

bleh.. anyways......
Uhhhh actually it is a big deal since they've all shown superior or equivolent durability when it comes to penetrating weaponry. It sets a standard that says.. "wolvies taking Thor out if he lands a sufficient shot."

Originally posted by His Airness
As I said, I'm not going any further.
Is it because you can't? You can't supply the evidence I'm asking for?

Originally posted by Alfheim
In all fairness I did say Wolverine will be able to cut Thor. I was just debating Rune King Thor. The artist is crap and doesnt depict it very well so it could be argued maybe Wolverine just hurt Thor, there wasnt even any blood.
I can agree to that.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Actually he has survived in the sun before. Forgot what issue but it was a while back. Where talking about a god who has strength that in the class of Hulk and Juggs, who has shown superspeed agains herald level characters such as Silver Surfer and Gladiator, years of experience in asgard. Now you put him against a guy who can't take Spiderman, Captain America or Sabertooth with out being beat down. He's hugely inconsistant because a writer decided that hey he sells books lets make him take people he can't Problem with that is that as a character he looses a lot of his fans so the writers have to reintegrate him into street leveler. You can't be beaten by spiderman and than beat namor without any semi logical person batting an eye.

See I've seen him use superspeed in flight, I've seen him use magic to augment his reflexes... I've NEVER seen him to show super speed in terms of combat when fighting someone that's outside of Wolverine's capabilities to match if not overshadow..

It's unfair to compare Thor as a "brick" to those characters who all use different tools to take on Wolverine.
Cap uses his strategy, and superior fighting skills to take on Logan.
Spiderman uses his spider sense, superior agility and webbing.
Sabretooth uses his Healing factor and superiority to Logan in every category sides fighting skill to fight Wolvie...

And your conclussion is based on inaccurate info..
Wolvie doesn't take woopings from cap.
and Spiderman hasn't beat him in a fight since secret wars...

Point is; comparing a very strong character with decent fighting ability doesn't equate to comparing him to someone who has other attributes that level the playing field like spider sense, a healing factor, or superior fighting and strategic skills. 😬

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well hell I guess if I was a Wolverine fan id be saying the same thing as you guys, the problem is the inconsistency.

The real problem is that people choose not only to ONLY focus on Wolverine's inconsistancy (all characters have it).... but to act like the MORE CONSISTENT showings he has doesn't matter...

The fact of the matter is that Logan takes brick shots and gets up more often than not... but because people like to label logan as inconsistent they think it's okay to discard that fact.

Originally posted by jinzin
The real problem is that people choose not only to ONLY focus on Wolverine's inconsistancy (all characters have it).... but to act like the MORE CONSISTENT showings he has doesn't matter...

The fact of the matter is that Logan takes brick shots and gets up more often than not... but because people like to label logan as inconsistent they think it's okay to discard that fact.

Jin, you will never change a person's mind on the character. Just post your evidence as usual. There's no need to let it get to you.

Originally posted by jinzin
The real problem is that people choose not only to ONLY focus on Wolverine's inconsistancy (all characters have it).... but to act like the MORE CONSISTENT showings he has doesn't matter...

The fact of the matter is that Logan takes brick shots and gets up more often than not... but because people like to label logan as inconsistent they think it's okay to discard that fact.

Spiderman, Captain America, Punisher, Spiderwoman, Sabertooth have all been able to overpower or knock the hell out of Wolverine with strength. Your right each character has inconsitencies but his are so blatantly far away its not even funny.

Thor can withstand high temperature but razor sharp adamantium claws is another league😮‍💨

Thor hasn't shown a large speed advantage to Daredevil, too. When sparring him. It's DD who was faster.

Daredevil#30; scenario by Stan Lee, pencil by Gene Colan, ink by John Tartaglione
Can be found in "ESSENTIAL: DAREDEVIL - VOLUME 2"
Great classic. Definitely worth reading.

Originally posted by jinzin
See I've seen him use superspeed in flight, I've seen him use magic to augment his reflexes... I've NEVER seen him to show super speed in terms of combat when fighting someone that's outside of Wolverine's capabilities to match if not overshadow..

It's unfair to compare Thor as a "brick" to those characters who all use different tools to take on Wolverine.
Cap uses his strategy, and superior fighting skills to take on Logan.
Spiderman uses his spider sense, superior agility and webbing.
Sabretooth uses his Healing factor and superiority to Logan in every category sides fighting skill to fight Wolvie...

And your conclussion is based on inaccurate info..
Wolvie doesn't take woopings from cap.
and Spiderman hasn't beat him in a fight since secret wars...

Point is; comparing a very strong character with decent fighting ability doesn't equate to comparing him to someone who has other attributes that level the playing field like spider sense, a healing factor, or superior fighting and strategic skills. 😬

I dont care if your bruce lee x 5 at his height of skill. If you can take a puch from a guy that can through a building like a beach ball, somethings wrong. No strategy is going to prepare you for that. Thats folly to claim something like CA fighting skills are greater than that kind of power. Thats comic book PIS at its height. No different than Deathstroke tagging a flash or any flash title for that matter.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Really won't. Let's do some maths.

Thor - Class 100 tons ---> Punch supposly has stronger,bigger impact that 100 tons even though it is for lifting.

Wolverine - Around what 130 - 180 kilos? One punch and if I count correctly he won't reach back to the battle arena in 5 days he would fly so damn far.

There's a little chance of that 😛 And Wolverine is Class 2... thx to adamantium skeleton and accelerated HF.

Originally posted by jinzin
who's arguing that thor is stronger?

unless... are you comparing thor to hulk or something? cause that's laughable...

why is comparing thor to hulk laughable? quote from creator of both thor and hulk, stan lee:

"Writer-editor Stan Lee described Thor's genesis as following the creation of the Hulk: "I thought it would be fun to invent someone as powerful as, or perhaps even more powerful than, the Incredible Hulk. But how do you make someone stronger than the strongest human? It finally came to me: Don't make him human — make him a god."

Here are examples of Wolverine's strenght for Rewmac, I just want you to know Logan is capable of lifting far more than 180 kilos... 😄 About two tons is his max.

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2964/treebatot7ud1.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1373/supportelevatorxa0jn4.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/29/steelshatterqv1tj3.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1030/shattersteel2po6ur1.jpg

Your lack of knowledge about Logan is terrifying, dude😮‍💨

Originally posted by Gorbag
So why he withstood Shi'ar's droid hits or Gladiator? Why his head is still attached depite Hulk, Wendigo, Apocalypse etc etc critical hit him??? Wolverine's adamantium laced spine is special in some way😮‍💨
ONLY ISSUE HIS SPINAL CORD WAS DAMAGED WAS "WHAT IF..." and this definitely doesn't count, according to u all said "What if Wolverine had killed the Hulk" is irrelevant😮‍💨

OK ANSWER THIS QUESTION CAN HULK OR THOR RIP WOLVERINES HEAD OFF. JUST STRAIGHT PULL IT COMPLETELY OFF OF HIS BODY.

WAITS FOR MORE OF YOUR B.S.

Originally posted by bruceb74
why is comparing thor to hulk laughable? quote from creator of both thor and hulk, stan lee:

"Writer-editor Stan Lee described Thor's genesis as following the creation of the Hulk: "I thought it would be fun to invent someone as powerful as, or perhaps even more powerful than, the Incredible Hulk. But how do you make someone stronger than the strongest human? It finally came to me: Don't make him human — make him a god."

Yeah, I watched on youtube Stan Lee saying this 😉 But Hulk has more wins over Thor than Thor over him...

Originally posted by Caps Conscience
OK ANSWER THIS QUESTION CAN HULK OR THOR RIP WOLVERINES HEAD OFF. JUST STRAIGHT PULL IT COMPLETELY OFF OF HIS BODY.

WAITS FOR MORE OF YOUR B.S.

Sorry man, I didn't say ur opinion is BS, why u re behaving like a mad child? Calm down yourself or leave us, I know you can behave like a normal person. And stop using Caps lock like this... behave urslef man 😮‍💨 in my opinion u need a smoke.
Refering to your question, read jinzin's post about Logan's skeleton. We saw it in one piece, for example when Logan was burned off to his bare skeleton by Nitro...

Originally posted by jinzin
No? cause every time Wolverine's skeleton has been shown, he's in one piece.. Why? Because the skeleton is bonded on a molecular level through nano technology that makes it into a new type of admantium and holds it together as one single fully functional and articulated piece.. think action figure.
It's been stated and proven as a bibical demon god failed to rip Wolverine apart due to this very phenomenon.
So in spite of what you want to believe.. No it doesn't work that way for Wolverine.

Read it carefully Caps, maybe you will finally understand 🙄

Originally posted by Gorbag
There's a little chance of that 😛 And Wolverine is Class 2... thx to adamantium skeleton and accelerated HF.

Being able to lift 2tons (which I don't think he does regularly) doesn't change how far Wolvie will go flying when his 180kilo body gets hit by Thor.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Being able to lift 2tons (which I don't think he does regularly) doesn't change how far Wolvie will go flying when his 180kilo body gets hit by Thor.

Yep, I was just replying to Rewmac 'cause he thought Wolvie is capable of lifting max 200kg 😆 Wolverine regularly lifts about ton, we can say that for sure. HF & adamantium skeleton however enables him to lift more. Now about flying 🙄 Logan needs to receive very hard hit for that. That scan of Thor pwning zombie barbarian showed us he needs some time to let's say "charge" his punch power... Wolverine is just too maneuverable and Thor would need to strike fast. After Thor's medium-power hits Logan won't fly into orbit... no way... 😮‍💨 Read again his fight with Namor, Wendigo, Thing... Beast even stated he's X-Men "heavy artillery" (in X4) 😮‍💨