Originally posted by Faceman
Ok what class 100 characters, has Wolverine beaten???????????????
Okaaay...
Sentinals
Professor Hulk
Savage Hulk
Pissed off Grey Hulk
Abomination
Kierrok
Hercules
Namor
(Argueably) Ba'al
An entire horde of N'garai demons
& Wendigo
Other Bricks of class 50 and up:
Rogue
Thing
Roughouse
& Warpath
and that's just off the top of my head. 😐
Originally posted by Faceman
Agreed. Just take a look at what Wonderman did to Wolverine, keep in mind WM , is not as strong as Thor, and WM has no hammer..Why have the mod's kept this thread open so long? 😕
Thor doesn't have a hammer here either or are you not paying attention?
Yeah look what Wonder Man did, he launched a successful cheap shot from behind and capitalized on the moment. And he used his power of flight to do it, which Thor ALSO does not have.
If Wonder Man fought Wolverine face to face, he would have been beat down harder than when he fought splice. 😬
Originally posted by Newjak
How messed up is that stab Namor to get KOed by Cap 😛
Meh he wasn't KOed... By the time US Agent got to him Wolverine had already taken down a class 40+ and a class 100. Agent got in his cheap shots and blew Wolverine up. Wolverine was fine, and just pissed off. The Dialogue even implies that Agent was running away from Wolverine at the end.
"uh.. skull?.... Skull!"
Originally posted by Newjak
And Thor has withstood blasts from Surfer>Than a bulletThor as stood inside of the Sun>Wolverine's attacks
Besides that was basically normal Thor he was going against wasn't it. Didn't Strange turn the Odin power off?
And it doesn't change anything Thor wins.
The guy almost as good as he is skill wise.
He is stronger.
And he has legit Superspeed feats that Wolverine lacks.
His durbaility bests are far better than the simple bullet feat.Thor should destroy Wolverine every time. 😬
Withstanding the power cosmic or heat does not in any way shape or form prove anything in context to piercing weaponry like adamantium claws.. No matter how much you want to be convinced otherwise..
Clearly, strange didn't as Thor used that to melt Wolverine away to molten metal.
Again even if Thor can be proven bullet proof, which STILL needs to be done, he can't be proven Wolverine proof. Infact all existing evidence indicates otherwise.
As for the speed feats.. Thus far, Wolverine's feats of speed in combat are more impressive than Thor's.. Thor got humilated by someone who couldn't even get his hands on Spiderman without a plot device, where has Wolverine has consistently shown the ability to hit the wallcrawler. And that's just one example of MANY.
Originally posted by Newjak
Well maybe if the panels weren't so scratched up I could have saw that clearly 😉And by the wya have I not already posted a scan of Wolverine being KOed with one solid shot by Juggernaut.
Hasn't Wolverine been put down by a nutshot from Punisher 😉
actually you didn't.. if you look at one of the top panels you'll see that it was two hits.
Yes in an Ennis issue, but to be honest, I think a nut shot would put Wolvie down, HF or not..
Same for Thor. To be honest...
And besides context, there's always consistency.
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This stuff happens far more often than to the contrary.. Hell even in the Wonder Man example, with all those free cheap shots Wondy got off, Wolverine was still concious. 😐
Plus: let's not forget the ridiculous amounts of abuse Wolverine took in that Punisher story WITHOUT getting KOed: getting punched accross the nation by Hulk, getting steam rollered, having his entire body blown up,
and this 😬
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Not to mention.
Still standing after THOR'S PUNCH:
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/7383/page015sx4.jpg 😐
Originally posted by Newjak
What are you talking about the heat and the pressure from the sun is greater than being stabbed by adamantium 😬Oh yeah thats right then he completely melts Wolverine and he even says he could heal if he wanted to.
Maybe but not by much the fact is Thor has been fighting a lot longer than Wolverine has against a lot tougher people.
He has superhuman reaction times he has used against a number of people.
There isn't even any proof that Wolverine could kill Thor in one blow. Heck Wolverine hasn't even cut the Hulk that bad. He merely scratches the surface skin.
Thor>Wolverine.
He completely nullfies any advantage Wolverine has against other bricks guys.
and about Hulk:
😕
Maybe if he's in hack and slash mode, but when he goes for the straight shots..
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Originally posted by Newjak
The nutshot isn't that old and by the way wasn't a few Atlanteans giving Wolverine trouble in his comic
a few?
You mean 3 royal gaurd members with the strength class of Namora and their king Namor... AFTER Wolverine healed from a skeleton?
😕 yeah, shame on Logan. Even though he WAS beating all of them up till Namor got his cheap shot in after Logan dropped him twice. 🙄
Originally posted by Hitman911
PIS!!!
An unbreakable skeleton doesnt make you unbeatable. Hell Deadpool can't be killed but he can be defeated.Logan Dies 1M/1Mpepsi
and being really strong with the label of "god" doesn't make you unbeatable either but you people seem to be satisfied using THAT half assed logic. 😐
Originally posted by jinzinOK let me put this to you.
Withstanding the power cosmic or heat does not in any way shape or form prove anything in context to piercing weaponry like adamantium claws.. No matter how much you want to be convinced otherwise..Clearly, strange didn't as Thor used that to melt Wolverine away to molten metal.
Again even if Thor can be proven bullet proof, which STILL needs to be done, he can't be proven Wolverine proof. Infact all existing evidence indicates otherwise.
As for the speed feats.. Thus far, Wolverine's feats of speed in combat are more impressive than Thor's.. Thor got humilated by someone who couldn't even get his hands on Spiderman without a plot device, where has Wolverine has consistently shown the ability to hit the wallcrawler. And that's just one example of MANY.
I put up a solid ten foot thick wall of steel. Which attack is going straight through.
A bullet or the power cosmic.
The fact is there isn't different kinds of Durability. Either your body is strong enough to take an attack or it isn't and Thor has much better feats than people like to give him. 😬
And jinzin it isn't the fact that Wolverine has more speed feats than Thor it was the fact that Thor has serious speed feats that place him into the superspeed category.
Originally posted by jinzinYou do realize all Durabiliy consists of his the body's ability to resist pressure. 😕
Sun's still a different type of durability.. Like how you can't compare being able to stand the ocean depths as a construct for durability vs. Logan's claws..and about Hulk:
😕
Maybe if he's in hack and slash mode, but when he goes for the straight shots..
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And as for the scans.
One is of the Grey Hulk who is Rhino level.
One has Wolverine carrying a sword he doesn't have for this fight.
One group of scans is Wolverine and Wendigo both hurting Hulk and none of the slashes seem that deep.
The only time it appears Wolverine gets his claws in deep is the head shot one 😉
Originally posted by jinzinYou're right it doesn't.
and being really strong with the label of "god" doesn't make you unbeatable either but you people seem to be satisfied using THAT half assed logic. 😐
This is what gives Thor the win.
He is a billion times stronger than Wolverine
He maybe not as skilled but he is by far the most skilled 100 brick he has ever faced.
He has legit Superspeed and Super reaction feats unlike Wolverine.
His durability when not needed for plot has shown to be just as great as the Hulk who Wolverine does not slash when any real depth.
That and Thor can still use items from around the battlefield for a weapon like cares.
The fact is Wolverine is hoping a lucky shot against a guy who has faced beings far more deadly than Wolverine could ever dream of being.
The fact is I could Thor grabbing Wolverine by the claws. His hands would bleed but Wolverine isn't cutting through them. He then goes unto do far worse then Wonder Man ever did.
Thor 7/10
I did a marvel saga system battle(means nothing here i know)
first round Thor one shotted wolvie for the win
Second round wolvie mauled thor for the win
rounds 3-10 went to Thor-every battle from here was a bloody fight with close calls,but thor won them all
Thor 9/10
The way i see it thor would win 7 out of ten,but wolvie can win some
I run alot of these and plan to do more,check out my thread if anybody cares
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/424722_1-real-versus-thread
Originally posted by Newjak
You do realize all Durabiliy consists of his the body's ability to resist pressure. 😕And as for the scans.
One is of the Grey Hulk who is Rhino level.
One has Wolverine carrying a sword he doesn't have for this fight.
One group of scans is Wolverine and Wendigo both hurting Hulk and none of the slashes seem that deep.The only time it appears Wolverine gets his claws in deep is the head shot one 😉
Look it's simple physics.
It's easier to punch a hole through a piece of newspaper with your finger than your fist, even though your fist can generate more power...
It's more do wo with the way that the pressure is distributed or focused onto the subject at hand... you just can't compare surviving in the sun to that.
Why is he at Rhino level? because Rhino gave him a hard time? You ARE aware of the fact that Rhino was fighting with savage hulk for YEARS before Grey Hulk showed up?
Besides, Grey Hulk when riled, is said to hit harder than his green counter-part.
The sword pic is just to demonstrate how easily Logan can stab into Hulk with an adamantium blade, since that's all he was doing there.
In that first strike his claws practically lopped off half Hulk's face.
How about when he stabs him in the eyes and the balls? 😕
