Thor (without Mjolnir) VS Wolverine

Started by Faceman78 pages

Anybody pick up the latest Wolverine run? Its called " Wolverine ruler of Asgard '' ...

Originally posted by Faceman
I blame you , for arguing with a fan boy!!!! 😠

I blame you for being a hater. Stop calling names and show some respect on this forum or behave like now and be disrespected by everyone... your choice.

Originally posted by Hitman911
Wolverine's fighting skills > Thor 😆 😆 😆

Wolverine's fighting skills > Thor's ones... I didn't think I have to specify that... and yep, Wolverine owns Thor in the majority if Asgardian doesn't have his beloved Mjolnor... now I'm really goin' for a smoke, I hope jin will give u all a hard time... 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Gorbag
I blame you for being a hater. Stop calling names and show some respect on this forum or behave like now and be disrespected by everyone... your choice.
🙄 you're what 11 years old ? That explains why you think Wolverine wins... 😂

Originally posted by Faceman
🙄 you're what 11 years old ? That explains why you think Wolverine wins... 😂

To be precise, I'm 17 years old... and you are acting like 11 one 'cause ur disrespecting and infantile posts are terrifying...
"Thor's a god" "Thor's too strong" "Thor's too powerful" And where are some solid arguments and proofs he can defeat Logan in the majority? He's weakened in this debate and it seems you haven't read many comics... especially Xmen and Wolverine ones 😬

Originally posted by Gorbag
To be precise, I'm 17 years old... and you are acting like 11 one 'cause ur disrespecting and infantile posts are terrifying...
"Thor's a god" "Thor's too strong" "Thor's too powerful" And where are some solid arguments and proofs he can defeat Logan in the majority? He's weakened in this debate and it seems you haven't read many comics... especially Xmen and Wolverine ones 😬
When did i ever say that??? Go ahead and quote me , cause if you cant, stfu. 😉

Originally posted by Gorbag
"Thor's a god" "Thor's too strong" "Thor's too powerful" And where are some solid arguments and proofs he can defeat Logan in the majority?

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Sorry but i couldn't help myself.

Not that anybody cares but i will run this scenario in the marvel saga system(roleplaying) and i will post the results-i think it will be interesting

i think wolvie will get some wins- not the majority, but we will see ,i will probably do the fight friday night,i will try to do it tonight if i have time

Gorbag = xmeat reincarnated....

Originally posted by Faceman
When did i ever say that??? Go ahead and quote me , cause if you cant, stfu. 😉

Not you man... all guys like you... all Thor fanboys... first read whole thread. And if u want to be a different Thor fanboy, post some arguments and proofs... it is a debate... Now you're acting like all thunder fanboys here, try to change it and show to us enough thor's feats and so on... we're analyzing them and then discussing... is it so hard to understand? Wolverine defeated enough powerhouses to say he can deal with weakened Thor... shall I remind you what Spidey did to Olson with Mjolnir? 🙄

Originally posted by starlock
Not that anybody cares but i will run this scenario in the marvel saga system(roleplaying) and i will post the results-i think it will be interesting

i think wolvie will get some wins- not the majority, but we will see ,i will probably do the fight friday night,i will try to do it tonight if i have time

Ill be waiting with a bag of popcorn..... 😱

Originally posted by Gorbag
Not you man... all guys like you... all Thor fanboys... first read whole thread. And if u want to be a different Thor fanboy, post some arguments and proofs... it is a debate... Now you're acting like all thunder fanboys here, try to change it and show to us enough thor's feats and so on... we're analyzing them and then discussing... is it so hard to understand? Wolverine defeated enough powerhouses to say he can deal with weakened Thor... shall I remind you what Spidey did to Olson with Mjolnir? 🙄
You're right. I apologize for calling you a fanboy. What was i thinking , that could have let me to go with Thor in this thread... Wolverine 10/10.

j/k fanboy Thor 1000000000000/ 10

Originally posted by Gorbag
To be precise, I'm 17 years old... and you are acting like 11 one 'cause ur disrespecting and infantile posts are terrifying...
"Thor's a god" "Thor's too strong" "Thor's too powerful" And where are some solid arguments and proofs he can defeat Logan in the majority? He's weakened in this debate and it seems you haven't read many comics... especially Xmen and Wolverine ones 😬

Mabye you don't read enough Thor comics 😐

So this is a grounded Thor in melee combat against Wolverine without Mjolnir? Then Wolverine wins the majority. If you want to know why Wolverine wins the majority then go reads some comics... but if you aren't up for that challenge and still want to know why then go read my posts in the Wolverine vs. Hercules and Wolverine vs Ares threads.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
So this is a grounded Thor in melee combat against Wolverine without Mjolnir? Then Wolverine wins the majority. If you want to know why Wolverine wins the majority then go reads some comics... but if you aren't up for that challenge and still want to know why then go read my posts in the Wolverine vs. Hercules and Wolverine vs Ares threads.
A grounded Colossus threw Wolverine about five blocks away with one arm... 🙁

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Mabye you don't read enough Thor comics 😐

Maybe you're right, however I think I read enough his own books, his guest appearances, Avengers comics to have sufficient knowledge about Thunder God 😉 Is he powerful? Oh yes. Is he a weather manipulation master? Sure. Is his hammer one of the most dangerous weapons? Ofc.
He has proven high degree of invulnerability and vast strength. Godspeed also sometimes, but fight speed and reactions are mainly the another story as we saw in his fights vs DD, Cap, Iron Man and so on.
Thing is, we're talking about ground fight. Thor has no Mjolnir or Odinforce allowing him to blast Logan so hard to partly or even completely melt him down (it depends on the time he spent godforce blasting his enemy).
Wolverine has proven over the years that he can fight powerhouses. Win or lose, he always puts up a good fight.
For example his first appearance. He has fought both Wendigo and Hulk. Full force of his claws even KOed Wendy. He went toe to toe with The Incredible Hulk then. His hyper senses allowed him to partly dodge Hulk's sneak attack and thanks to it, Wolverine was unconscious less time that would be after straight hit... this feat is well-known. Then writers weren't sure about this whole adamantium thing and healing factor, it came out a bit later.
Right after joining X-Men there were many feats Wolvie did, for example (as jinzin's said) defeating Kierrok or Mandroids... he even was near killing Warhawk, the guy whose abilities are similar to those of Colossus. And these all were at early appearances.
Now, Wolvie's true potential has been unleashed thanks to "the countless hours in Danger Room", many adventures and partly thanks to Hydra which made him once more formidable than ever. Wolverine stabbed Grey Hulk, deeply slashed even Savage one, defeated Namor, Iron Man, Hercules and so on...
Yes, there are not many streetlevelers which go toe to toe with powerhouses but still there are. Wolverine fight The Hulk. Daredevil fights Mr Hyde. Captain America fights Loki (OK he died and later was revived by Thor, but he put up a good fight, u all know...). Spider-Man fights Morlun... etc., etc.
Wolverine is simply one of the best ground fighters. If his opponent doesn't fly, is vulnerable to razor sharpened adamantium claws and doesn't posses enough fight speed to humiliate him, he can take a fight in the majority. And the most important thing. Thor doesn't have the accelerated healing factor. OK, HF rarely wins fight for you, but in this ground battle it is a priceless advantage. So I bet on Wolverine, however it'd be a lovely fight.

What we have there...

Strength: Wolverine's max is about Class 2, when Thor far more than 100. Thor wins. Viking feat awesome, but as I said, Thor needs to "charge" the power of his punch. And aiming Wolvie would be much harder.

Speed: Thor's better at traveling speed, dimensional travel and flight via Mjolnir. However in this fight he doesn't have his hammer. Then, his running/leaping speed is just over average unless he rarely enhances his speed to "godspeed", in fight he does this hardly ever. His fight speed and reflexes are perhaps much less to these of Wolverine, DD or Spidey... if you need scans, I will post them. You can post then Thor's examples of agility and reflexes, it'd be nice. Owning Wrecker easily was a nice feat, yes.

Agility: Wolverine better here, he dodged Cyke's blasts feeling pressure changes, Hulk's punches, gunshots etc. etc.

Durability: This one goes to Thor, not counting bones durability ofc...

Healing Factor: Wolverine has pretty nice one, Thor doesn't. However with Mjolnir he shown few times that he can recover faster than without it... it said that Mjolnir enhances his natural healing ability.

Energy projection: it goes to Thor. But we need to remember that it's h2h fight right now.

Fighting skills: Thor may be a god, but Logan's martial arts are mastered in every way. He has been a soldier, samurai, S.H.I.E.L.D. agent, X-Man, New Avenger, stealth attacker, brute, Alpha Fight member and so on...

When we read Logan's fights, especially with powerhouses, we will be able to see him winning this one... ground battle, no energy, fast slasher against heavy hitter... guy who twice or even 3 times (if we count what if) defeated Hulk, can defeat ground weakened regular Thor, believe me 😮‍💨

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
So this is a grounded Thor in melee combat against Wolverine without Mjolnir? Then Wolverine wins the majority. If you want to know why Wolverine wins the majority then go reads some comics... but if you aren't up for that challenge and still want to know why then go read my posts in the Wolverine vs. Hercules and Wolverine vs Ares threads.

Exactly ppl, read some famous Logan's encounters with powerhouses such as Ba'al, Sasquatch, IM, both incarnations f Hulk, Ghost Rider a.k.a. Danny Ketch, Namor, Wendigo, Kierrok, Vindicator, Sauron and so on. It's really worth of reading. Scans aren't the same 😉

Originally posted by Gorbag
Exactly ppl, read some famous Logan's encounters with powerhouses such as Ba'al, Sasquatch, IM, both incarnations f Hulk, Ghost Rider a.k.a. Danny Ketch, Namor, Wendigo, Kierrok, Vindicator, Sauron and so on. It's really worth of reading. Scans aren't the same 😉

PIS!!!
An unbreakable skeleton doesnt make you unbeatable. Hell Deadpool can't be killed but he can be defeated.

Logan Dies 1M/1Mpepsi

Originally posted by Hitman911
Ok ok. you can't rip limbs off.........It's still Thor 1M/1M
How many class 100 people has Logan faired well againt? PIS PIS PIS 😠

Okay, Why does thor win 10/10. You haven't supplied any reasoning besides bias yet.
And why make such a ridiculous request if you're going to call PIS on it regardless?
You're being unreasonable, you haven't even shown why you think Wolverine taking down class 100's is PIS in the first place. 😬

Originally posted by Hitman911
With no weapons Thor still OWNS Logan!! Don't give me that stregnth means nothing crap!! Logan cant beat Beast(class 1), Spidey (class 10)
Logan sucks!!!
Prove that he does.
Prove that it does.
Wolverine's downed Beast in one panel, and has put Peter on the recieving end of more beatdowns than the otherway around. NEITHER character has ever successfully put Wolverine down, and CERTAINLY neither were able to successfully fight Logan using strength alone. Infact Spiderman's hardest punches didn't do anything to Logan but make him smile. 😐

Originally posted by Hitman911
To compare Howlett to someone of infinitley greater intellect and stregnth is 😆

What so I bet Logan beats Wonder Woman too!!?!?!?!?!?!? ❌

Since when did Thor have infinitely greater intelligence than Logan?

Originally posted by Newjak
Really cause it never mentions a forcefield anytime Wolverine hits him 😛



And the fact that Nightcralwer managed to hit Cain with a Torch in the face kind of shows that he never had his shield up 😬


hmn, wierd.. I coulda swore I read to the contrary.. Okay well I know there are at least two other instances where Juggs does throw his sheild up.. However I don't know where I got that idea for this encounter then.. If I find where I read that before I'll hook you up but for now, you win this round.