Thor (without Mjolnir) VS Wolverine

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Once again, Thor has flight speed over Hercules... his combat speed/reflexes are almost identical.

It shows a still of Herc and Wolverine, and then another still of Wolverine standing above Herc's body. We don't know what happened in between those two panels are where Wolverine hit Herc to drop him. The fact that their isn't any blood means little, maybe hit him in the throat, chest or another place that isn't visible... or maybe they were green holograms that were reenacting the actual battle and not an actual recording.

The Hulks wounds heal instantaneously. Having three foot long blades ripping to your torso doesn't really make a difference if the blood clots and the wound heals the moment it is created.

It shows Wolverine hitting Herc across the face with his claws and there is no wound 😬

And the poin is there is no evidence to support that he actually makes three foot long gashes in the Hulk. the mostly appear to be on the skin and outer flesh which won't put Thor down 😉

I think this is what Newjak was referring to when he said " wolverines claws cause small flesh wounds"

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3323/badcomic10aegm8.gif

That claw strike should have taken Namor's head off, but it caused mere scratches on his face...and I have noticed this happens with many of his opponents

Originally posted by jasonk3
I think this is what Newjak was referring to when he said " wolverines claws cause small flesh wounds"

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3323/badcomic10aegm8.gif

That claw strike should have taken Namor's head off, but it caused mere scratches on his face...and I have noticed this happens with many of his opponents

Originally posted by Newjak
Exceot he fight reaction feats that are better as well 😬

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No they aren't.

Originally posted by Newjak
It shows Wolverine hitting Herc across the face with his claws and there is no wound 😬

The panel shows Wolverine swing his claws at Herc's face. We don't know if there was any connections, we don't know if that is Herc recoiling from a blow or dodging a blow. All we know is that Wolverine adventually won... and how would he do that if his claws can't break Herc's skin?

Originally posted by Newjak
And the poin is there is no evidence to support that he actually makes three foot long gashes in the Hulk. the mostly appear to be on the skin and outer flesh which won't put Thor down 😉

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... The skin is generally where scars appear after a wound heals.

Originally posted by capt it up
thats becuase only the tips of his claws hit namor.

I think he was too close for the tip of his claws to only strike namor; however, he did end up stabbing Namor later on.

When he fought the wrecker and struck him in his arm, that should have sliced his arm off, and when he slashed king thor, it did not do as much damage.

Meh...I could be wrong...

Originally posted by jasonk3
I think he was too close for the tip of his claws to only strike namor; however, he did end up stabbing Namor later on.

When he fought the wrecker and struck him in his arm, that should have sliced his arm off, and when he slashed king thor, it did not do as much damage.

Meh...I could be wrong...

Originally posted by jasonk3
I think this is what Newjak was referring to when he said " wolverines claws cause small flesh wounds"

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3323/badcomic10aegm8.gif

That claw strike should have taken Namor's head off, but it caused mere scratches on his face...and I have noticed this happens with many of his opponents

He just raked him with is claws, only the ends made contact.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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No they aren't.

The panel shows Wolverine swing his claws at Herc's face. We don't know if there was any connections, we don't know if that is Herc recoiling from a blow or dodging a blow. All we know is that Wolverine adventually won... and how would he do that if his claws can't break Herc's skin?

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... The skin is generally where scars appear after a wound heals.

So that is what your going to sya huh we do not know anything. Well then why did you people even bring it up. The fact is we see two panels one with Wolverine throwing a blow and looking like it connected and one with Wolverine standing over Herc.

IN none of those panels do we see Herc ever get cut or is there any blood spots. Essentially it shows that Wolverine didn't cut him.

What do scars have to matter. The point I made is we never really see Wolverine make three foot deep gashes into Hulk we do see him cut the skin a lot but those aren't three foot gashes 😕

Originally posted by capt it up
same thing happens with people likle silver sameria. Logans only hitting them with the tips of his claws. The writters can't allow for characters to lose limbs or die most of the time so Logan only really shown attacking with the tips.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He just raked him with is claws, only the ends made contact.

Cool. Thanks

Originally posted by jasonk3
I think he was too close for the tip of his claws to only strike namor; however, he did end up stabbing Namor later on.

When he fought the wrecker and struck him in his arm, that should have sliced his arm off, and when he slashed king thor, it did not do as much damage.

Meh...I could be wrong...

Thor would probably do the same thing except Wolverine would be in space 😛

Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah probably did just rake him with the claws although even that wasn't enough to really put Namor down and right after that Namor boots for for a few hundred feet.

Thor would probably do the same thing except Wolverine would be in space 😛

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Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah probably did just rake him with the claws although even that wasn't enough to really put Namor down and right after that Namor boots for for a few hundred feet.

Thor would probably do the same thing except Wolverine would be in space 😛

Originally posted by capt it up
no but a stabb through the chest was...........

Seriously everyone is like Wolverine why do I believe Wolverine is not going to get the one lucky shot he needs on his head to win. I say why is Wolverine going to get it. Thor has legit Reaction feats.

He is a very skilled fighter.

And he is a lot stronger than wolverine. More than likely just like Hulk he would be able to take a few small cuts across the body. All Thor has to do is get his hands on Wolverine and this match is over.

Sentry proved that is far from impossible 😬

Originally posted by Newjak
And he is a lot stronger than wolverine. More than likely just like Hulk he would be able to take a few small cuts across the body. All Thor has to do is get his hands on Wolverine and this match is over.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Wolverine has done more than just "scratch" Hulk 😕

Originally posted by Newjak
He has but most of the time all he does is just scratch him. Seeing as Thor is faster and a lot more skilled than Hulk I don't see why Thor could limit those attacks. 😬

Hulk has superhuman reflexes (a thing that most people seem to forget). Thor also, but to assume Thor is faster than Hulk...

When we're talking about traveling speed, yes, of course Thor is faster, but fighting speed ? If there's a difference, it won't be much.

And Hulk is way more durable than Thor.

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/8041/thorownedzy5.png

Razor sharp adamantium claws > special bullet

Wolverine's much faster, more agile, more skilled and has better reflexes than Thor... these are few examples of his speed, agility&reflexes:

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/7760/gangsterswipe1ee9rd4.jpg
http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5144/gangsterswipe2wo7kz7.jpg

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3706/spideyassuw9.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2687/wolverinev106817fy3.jpg
http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/2163/wolverinev106818hi5.jpg

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5126/4050115hn3.jpg

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/8890/cyclopssucks03rw3rg5.jpg
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/523/cyclopssucks04hy7bh0.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/1096/kravmaga2kn0ft1.jpg
http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/1289/kravmaga3xf5mn5.jpg (read what Logan says there. His smokes barely began to fall...)

Hey Gorbag, come visit us over at the ( Wolverine vs. Wrecker thread) .

Originally posted by Newjak
Oh the old Berserker Rage, The fact is that Thor can hit the ground causing Earthquakes, Can cause Thunderclaps.

Originally posted by Newjak
No Thor is going to grab them with two hands then put both of them in one hand. Seeing as Thor has already broken admantium once(Yes I know it was weaker version) I'm going to sya that admantium really isn't that big a deal to Thor.

Originally posted by Newjak
Isn't that the same thing I see certain people throw out all the time with Wolverine. That he is so old and experienced 😬

Originally posted by Newjak
The fact is that Thor is been around far longer than Namor. And as for the Cap thing. Thor is often impressed by mortals that doesn't mean that they are greater than him. And no I'm not saying that Thor is more skilled than Cap just letting you know that isn't a good point you made.

Originally posted by Newjak
I was hoping I wouldn't have to spell this out to you but seeing as I don't have a choice. The fact is Thor is very skilled. The fact is that where Wolverine's skill advantage is a very helpful thing it isn't so here. Thor is skilled enough to counter that is all he needs..

Originally posted by Newjak
And as for him using skill against other bricks he has done so many times against the Juggernaut. Tho used his godly reflexes as well to avoid his blows with ease. 😬

Originally posted by Newjak
Superspeed feats like running across Manhattan in a heartbeat. Moving so fast Hela couldn't see him. 😉

Originally posted by Newjak
And might have been getting into a fighting stance he was still talking the entire time.

Originally posted by Newjak
And last time I checked jinzin a H2H fight means that they are fighting without using his powers not that he is completely bound by only being able to punch. Either way it doesn't change a thing Thor still wins.

Originally posted by Newjak
Did you just say Sentry>Thor 😆

I dare you to make a thread and see how that turns out 😉

Sorry but did you just compare a Thor who's been completely stripped of his Powers save superstrength to a fully empowered Sentry? 😕

Originally posted by Newjak
the fact is that Sentry has no feat that puts him above Thor even durability feats. Thor has never been cut by adamantium. Even in the scan you showed of Wolverine beating Herc I see no blood coming from Herc.

Sentry has resisted Wolverine's claws Thor hasn't, & Thor's been cut by Wolverine's claws lest you want to argue that Wolverine can damage Thor through pure strength.

Originally posted by Newjak
Thor does exactly what Sentry did to Wolverine seeing as Thor>sentry

Originally posted by Newjak
The has never been disputed though to possess greater pressure though. the fact is that most people understand the gravity alone is quite a feat because the Sun's gravity has such great force as to keep the planets in orbit. the fact that you're trying to disprove just how much pressure is in the sun shows how much you are trying to reach for straws.

I'm reaching for straws?
Dude you've tried to discredit Wolverine at every corner, While igoring every Thor anti-feat that supports the Wolverine argument, While ignoring that the durability to resist the Sun doesn't equate much to the cutting effeciency of Wolverine's claws..... If anyone's grasping at straws it's you, trying to infer that real world logic take precidence over comic proof. 😐

Originally posted by Newjak
That is because of the material it is made of. You know the reason why a bullet proof vest stops a bullet is because the material wraps around it absorbing the impact. That is why a knife penetrates it because it has continual pressure applied. A samething would happen with the bullet if its momentum wasn't stopped 😬

you can't simply claim that the durability to take one kind of punishment will be suitable for another kind of punishemtn just because the first looks more threatening.

Originally posted by Newjak
You put a metal plate in front of a knife and it isn't cutting through and a bullet isn't going through. A poor analogy Jinzin

Originally posted by Newjak
Thor's bidy has withstood Surfer's Blasts, Loki's blasts.

Originally posted by Newjak
And I'm not the one grasping at straws. Thor has great durability feats. Wolverine hardly is ever shown to score a fatal hit on the Hulk. Thor is much more skilled, faster, and just as tough as the Hulk.

Originally posted by Newjak
The fact you believe that Wolverine is going to be able to fight the Thor like he can Hulk is wrong.

I never said that.. as far as Hulk's compared to this fight I think this.
Wolverine can take Hulk hits = he can take Thor hits.
He can inflict damage on Hulk = he can inflict damage on Thor.
Just because Hulks a billion times stronger than Wolverinit doesn't mean it's a totally one sided fight = this isn't a fight strictly in Thor's favor.
To be honest I Think this fight is more comparible to Wolverine vs. Herc, or Namor, all fights which Wolverine has won. 😐