jus to clarify namor beat a calm hulk down not enraged hulk ......but thors never done that before so its still viable proof submitted by jinzin.... btw jinzin is right u r makin a lot of claimms an not backn them up.... but i know why ur thinkn some1 as powerful an majestic as thor shouldnt lose to a scrappy little runt but with wolvies indestructable skeleton/claws an a healin factor to boot hes a more than a match for most gods(in the marvel universe)
Originally posted by jinzin
I show Wolverine doing the ol'l lice and dice on multiple people who are in the class 100 range, I show Wolverine cut Thor, KO Hecr, drop Namor.... yet you say I haven't conclusively proven anything so you ignore it, but you post up one picture of Thor punching someone into space automatically defer to the benefit of the doubt that he'll be able to do so to Wolverine here... Cause, he'll for sure be able to grab Wolverine by the wrist, and Wolverine will let him, Wolverine won't be trying to evade the punch, or attack Thor in turn or anthing like that, and Thor will always land his punches and they will always sent Wolverine to space. 🙄What about CON-SIS-TEN-CY isn't gettin through that skull o' yours? Wolverine takes on class 100's and does well more often than not, he slices and dices them more often then not, Thor has 2 fights against Sufer and you think that's his standard.. it's absurd..
Spiderman's had more fights with sufer, but when he does it, it's PIS according to you, in spite of Spiderman bieng on a feat for feat basis... faster than Thor in combat.. You HAVEN'T posted the fight like I requested, you HAVEN'T supplied proof that Thor's faster, and the ONLY evidence that ANY ONE'S given to dispute the damage Wolverine can do to Thor is Hulk who has a healing factor, Sentry who's > Thor in this thread, and Captain America's Shield?You're skewing why that was brought up and how it was brought up out of context. You're STILL under the impression that calling me a fanboy takes away from the validity of my FACTS.
And no, you don't get to just walk away with this with the last word without supporting yourself with proof, so I'm not just gonna sit here and take this nonsense from you.
Wolverine has never killed somebody in Thor's realm of power. Like previously stated, he's shown capable of scratching, annoying, or slightly hurting them. However there is no evidence supporting claims that Wolverine can cut through or "gut" either any of them. Hell we've seen in this thread how Wolverines Failed to cut a Mortal Hercules.
Also, Namor isn't in Thor's league. Namor has never shaken planets, swung weapons at light speeds, stood in the core of the sun, fight skyfathers for months, etc. Like Wolverine, Namor would get his ass busted 10/10.
As the scans show, it isn't that hard to send someone to orbit with a good shot, especially considering Thor is much faster than Wolverine. It's just recently been shown that Wrecker, a being with the power of an "Average Asgardian" is too much physically for Wolverine. When I say physically I mean strength, speed, durability, etc. Wolverine was unable to fatally wound him with three cheap shots, and other times was smacked effortlessly out of the air.
Wolverine has never taken on and defeated someone in Thor's league. Your only examples have been Namor, whom pales in comparison to Thor and Hulk, who's been consistently ko'd and damaged by weak character throughout the duration of his history. You haven't given any examples of Wolverine actually fatally wounding a Thor, Gladiator, Surfer, Beta Ray Bill, Stardust, etc.
See this is where you show your ignorance of Thor. Thor has fought nearly every major cosmic in the Marvel universe. This includes heralds, Adam Warlock, Quasar, Gladiator, Captain Marvel, etc. Guess what? he rarely has problems with speed.
Another baseless claim by Jinzin. Seems your making a habit of making claims with no proof. Sentry hasn't done anything remotely close to what Thor was doing in his time yet for some odd reason you claim Sentry > Thor? Your credibility is steadily falling throughout this thread.
Jinzin, you make me laugh. 😆
Originally posted by jinzin
Every time Wolverine hit, he caused substantial damage, he NEVER went for a stab, and he actually caused Wrecker so much pain he dropped his crowbar... there's no evidence to say that he can't.
He was only able to cut the surface skin of a character who is far less durable than Thor.....
Originally posted by His AirnessThis was just the knock out blow....Thor 10/10
Wolverine has never killed somebody in Thor's realm of power. Like previously stated, he's shown capable of scratching, annoying, or slightly hurting them. However there is no evidence supporting claims that Wolverine can cut through or "gut" either any of them. Hell we've seen in this thread how Wolverines Failed to cut a Mortal Hercules.Also, Namor isn't in Thor's league. Namor has never shaken planets, swung weapons at light speeds, stood in the core of the sun, fight skyfathers for months, etc. Like Wolverine, Namor would get his ass busted 10/10.
As the scans show, it isn't that hard to send someone to orbit with a good shot, especially considering Thor is much faster than Wolverine. It's just recently been shown that Wrecker, a being with the power of an "Average Asgardian" is too much physically for Wolverine. When I say physically I mean strength, speed, durability, etc. Wolverine was unable to fatally wound him with three cheap shots, and other times was smacked effortlessly out of the air.
Wolverine has never taken on and defeated someone in Thor's league. Your only examples have been Namor, whom pales in comparison to Thor and Hulk, who's been consistently ko'd and damaged by weak character throughout the duration of his history. You haven't given any examples of Wolverine actually fatally wounding a Thor, Gladiator, Surfer, Beta Ray Bill, Stardust, etc.
See this is where you show your ignorance of Thor. Thor has fought nearly every major cosmic in the Marvel universe. This includes heralds, Adam Warlock, Quasar, Gladiator, Captain Marvel, etc. Guess what? he rarely has problems with speed.
Another baseless claim by Jinzin. Seems your making a habit of making claims with no proof. Sentry hasn't done anything remotely close to what Thor was doing in his time yet for some odd reason you claim Sentry > Thor? Your credibility is steadily falling throughout this thread.
Jinzin, you make me laugh. 😆
Originally posted by His AirnessI was going to reply but this pretty much covers it 😛
Wolverine has never killed somebody in Thor's realm of power. Like previously stated, he's shown capable of scratching, annoying, or slightly hurting them. However there is no evidence supporting claims that Wolverine can cut through or "gut" either any of them. Hell we've seen in this thread how Wolverines Failed to cut a Mortal Hercules.Also, Namor isn't in Thor's league. Namor has never shaken planets, swung weapons at light speeds, stood in the core of the sun, fight skyfathers for months, etc. Like Wolverine, Namor would get his ass busted 10/10.
As the scans show, it isn't that hard to send someone to orbit with a good shot, especially considering Thor is much faster than Wolverine. It's just recently been shown that Wrecker, a being with the power of an "Average Asgardian" is too much physically for Wolverine. When I say physically I mean strength, speed, durability, etc. Wolverine was unable to fatally wound him with three cheap shots, and other times was smacked effortlessly out of the air.
Wolverine has never taken on and defeated someone in Thor's league. Your only examples have been Namor, whom pales in comparison to Thor and Hulk, who's been consistently ko'd and damaged by weak character throughout the duration of his history. You haven't given any examples of Wolverine actually fatally wounding a Thor, Gladiator, Surfer, Beta Ray Bill, Stardust, etc.
See this is where you show your ignorance of Thor. Thor has fought nearly every major cosmic in the Marvel universe. This includes heralds, Adam Warlock, Quasar, Gladiator, Captain Marvel, etc. Guess what? he rarely has problems with speed.
Another baseless claim by Jinzin. Seems your making a habit of making claims with no proof. Sentry hasn't done anything remotely close to what Thor was doing in his time yet for some odd reason you claim Sentry > Thor? Your credibility is steadily falling throughout this thread.
Jinzin, you make me laugh. 😆
Except I will add this to it.
Jinzin you brought up his fight in COC as proof he can cut someone in Thor's league when you showcased a weaker version of Hercules. And the fact remains that there never was any definitive proof he cut Mortal Herc.
The fact remains is that by wearing him down I meant that he would keep coming and causing damage and tiring down Herc as well and as you know the more tired someone gets the less damage they can take. You understand perfectly what I mean you just choose to change it around 😬
And as for Thor normal Thor has broken adamantium before(yes it was weaker version) but then again didn't you say the only reason Omega Red could stand up to Wolverine is because he had inferior Adamantium.
So once again everything Thor did in that comic he could have done as normal Thor. As for him beating Hulk it was quite clear he beat them to death probably overloaded Hulk's healing factor and he did it without the Odinforce so that was normal Thor. 😬
Originally posted by Newjak
I was going to reply but this pretty much covers it 😛Except I will add this to it.
Jinzin you brought up his fight in COC as proof he can cut someone in Thor's league when you showcased a weaker version of Hercules. And the fact remains that there never was any definitive proof he cut Mortal Herc.
The fact remains is that by wearing him down I meant that he would keep coming and causing damage and tiring down Herc as well and as you know the more tired someone gets the less damage they can take. You understand perfectly what I mean you just choose to change it around 😬
And as for Thor normal Thor has broken adamantium before(yes it was weaker version) but then again didn't you say the only reason Omega Red could stand up to Wolverine is because he had inferior Adamantium.
So once again everything Thor did in that comic he could have done as normal Thor. As for him beating Hulk it was quite clear he beat them to death probably overloaded Hulk's healing factor and he did it without the Odinforce so that was normal Thor. 😬
Wolverine can cut nearly invulnerable things, 'cause he shown the ability to slice through vanadium steel like a hot knife through butter.
Literally. Herc is not an exception... unless you want to think Logan defeated him (as shown on that hologram) not using his claws... which version is better? Sure he must have used them.
About The Hulk... I don't believe King Thor is just Thor with Odinpower... he has shown greater feats like dealing with everybody, including Sorcerer Supreme and Hulk... even Balder was afraid of him and used the threat to Thor's child. And he defeated them without Odinforce. Referring to Hulk's HF... I'm not sure it was overloaded. However I think it's nearly impossible to regenerate impaled part of the body(whole lung), when thing is still in your body and stops your HF from working properly... regenerating from having skin and most of muscles burned off was a little easier.
Omega Red... let's say he could stand up to Wolverine !several hours! 'cause of carbonadium protecting his skull and whole skeleton... thing is that without it Omega couldn't fight Logan several hours constantly. It's my opinion.
Thor has broken secondary adamantium... maybe some1 has a scan of this? I know it happened, but I haven't read it yet🙁 And btw... many big events happen in Marvel Universe... many hero feats... for example Colossus breaking vibranium, erm how to say, not chains, something like handcuffs... it happened in X-Men#116, scenario by Chris Claremont, pencil by John Byrne, ink by Terry Austin.
Originally posted by srankmissingninMust have misread that. wasn't exactly clear. 😮
Fight stipulations state that this is a grounded Thor with out Mjolnir.
Edit: So without the hammer and no odinforce Thor has a timelimit within which to take out wolverine. failing that he reverts to his mortal host and is easily taken out. *shrugs* Its the Mjolnr which bestows the thor powers in the first place.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Must have misread that. wasn't exactly clear. 😮Edit: So without the hammer and no odinforce Thor has a timelimit within which to take out wolverine. failing that he reverts to his mortal host and is easily taken out. *shrugs* Its the Mjolnr which bestows the thor powers in the first place.
Originally posted by PriestSo it was also stated the Thor retains his powers without mjolnr? I didn't see that stated.. I saw no odinforce and no mjolnr.
Thor is pretty much bounded to his strength and fighting skills in this fight.
So this is cassic Tor we're talking about here. right?
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/3000/2268/64408-thor_400.jpg
Which means that after so long without Mjolnr he returns to his mortal form.. which is an average human as it were.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Must have misread that. wasn't exactly clear. 😮Edit: So without the hammer and no odinforce Thor has a timelimit within which to take out wolverine. failing that he reverts to his mortal host and is easily taken out. *shrugs* Its the Mjolnr which bestows the thor powers in the first place.
That limit was removed a while ago wan't it?
Originally posted by CreshoskIt was removed after Thor fought Beta.
As I said, I'd like to see the proof before I update that. Cause it wasn't really that significant in the first place. Removing it could go unnoticed. Would you like to provide the scan?
And, he was also without his hammer for a while in Ragnarok anyway.
I'll get the scan in a minute.
