Originally posted by Newjak
Isn't that Ultimate Wolverine the same guy that got tore in half 😛And if it wasn't then the fact that Ironman was about to be functional means Wolverine didn't cut deep 😛
Not unless Ultimate Wolverine decided to cameo in Priests Black Panther run from issue 41-43.
Spoiler:
Its not Ultimate Wolverine
Originally posted by Newjakyes hulk has been hurt thats why he was given the best healing ability marvel can offer and wendigo is more durable/strong than namor
Let me point out Wolverine's Class 100 resume from toughest to lowestHulk
Namor
WendigoSasquatch
You see the drop off and more importantly two of those beings Hulk and Namor can be injured fairly easily some of the times.
Hulk has been hurt by a lot less than people think. 😬
Originally posted by Newjak
You produce one sided proof and expect everyone to not doubt it despite the fact wolverine does have other showings to say otherwise.
What are you talking about? Yes he has showings to say otherwise... Fery few and quite less consistent than to the contradictory.
Originally posted by Newjak
I mean the best he has ever done against Colossus is Score him. Omega Red's Carbodium body has withstood Wolverine's Claws despite being inferior admantium.
Originally posted by Newjak
Caps Shield has stopped his blows. He has never sliced open Ironman's armor.
Originally posted by Newjak
He has never cut Herc.
Originally posted by NewjakWho incidently are capible of withstanding bullets.
What he has done is cut a lot of low class 100s with inferior durability.
Originally posted by Newjak
And before you go back to the Hulk to do realize out of all the high class 100s Hulk more than anybody is the easiest to hurt.
Originally posted by NewjakWhen?
Heck Wasp's stings have hurt the Hulk.Sebastien Shaw has stopped wolverine from cutting him before.
Originally posted by jinzinFor me it's not if Logan would be able to pierce Thor with his claws but rather if he'd have the chance. IMO, Thor has enough speed and skill to avoid being sliced and stabbed while delivering a bfr or a knockout. I just think Thor has the best chances of winning. There's really no right or wrong but just an opinion based on showings used in a KMC versus battle. 😎
And people think he can't cut thor which is why all these other examples got brought up.
Originally posted by BadabingSee I don't have any problem with having an opinion but that's no reason to discard multitudes of facts that Wolverine produces on the daily. 😬
For me it's not if Logan would be able to pierce Thor with his claws but rather if he'd have the chance. IMO, Thor has enough speed and skill to avoid being sliced and stabbed while delivering a bfr or a knockout. I just think Thor has the best chances of winning. There's really no right or wrong but just an opinion based on showings used in a KMC versus battle. 😎
Originally posted by jinzinSo, if they fluctuated so much, than why is anything of bone claws usable then?
The durability of Wolverine's bone claws fluctuated.. I don't know what it was contingent on but it fluctuated a TON.
Wolverine also Carved Hulk up like a christmas turkey with bone claws, and cut across his belly with them as well.
I can understand you're anger against the use of this proof, I only ask that you understand why I had to bring it up in the first place.
Ya, but even then... also, how exactly did bone claws get brought up anyway?
Originally posted by jinzinJust bringing up how crossovers have been handled...
Spiderman fight is irrelivent, it wasn't referenced as having happened anywhere outside of other crossovers...
But if Spiderman had red kryponite powers, then yeah he'd probably give clark some trouble.
If Venom had to fight a severly depowered Supes he might, which oh that's right, Supes WAS severly depowered.
Still, he was only like an 8th of his powers or something like that, which would still make him still above a class 100, and Venom was handling him and Spider-Man like nothing.
Originally posted by jinzinHe was fighting Cap Marvel, and other people, and he was holding his stomach for the whole fight...
Did he heal it as a concious effort?
He was not severly injured.. bleeding? yes.. Injured? not really.
Originally posted by jinzinIf it's mainstream, then it doesn't need any references.
That's more refferences than most truly cononical limited series' get.. I don't know what the problem is.
Originally posted by jinzinI still won't accept the Thanos one...
It helps to prove the level of durability that Wolverine is capible of inflicting damage upon, which is important in this thread, as people are trying to argue that Wolverine can't cut thor or Herc even though he's done both presumably if not better.
Plus, Wolverine has a consistent basis of people he has cut (around Hulk level), he hardly needs a speculative feat, to prove he can cut someone around Hulk's level.
Originally posted by jinzinBut really... Thanos?
And people think he can't cut thor which is why all these other examples got brought up.
Originally posted by strengthkillsHardly.
strength wise hes past it ....thats like sayn supes is faster than flash if that were true why would there be a need 4 flash
Like, how Hulk couldn't even hurt Surfer (all of Hulk's strength accordingly went into hitting Surfer to no effect), and Thanos killed him with punches?
Originally posted by jinzinI know. I don't think it's impossible for Logan to win and it's even more likely in a comic. He has good showings and that's proof. People just......I don't know....they just get mad. It's only a comic book character! You do a good job of keeping calm and backing up your opinion.
See I don't have any problem with having an opinion but that's no reason to discard multitudes of facts that Wolverine produces on the daily. 😬
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
So, if they fluctuated so much, than why is anything of bone claws usable then?
If there's not a base to go on...Ya, but even then... also, how exactly did bone claws get brought up anyway?
It's a better setting standard of evidence.. the point was that:
if bone claws can cut through something, adamantium will surely get the job done, because no matter how much the bone claws fluctuated they were still leagues behind his adamantium claws.
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Just bringing up how crossovers have been handled...
Also, Spider-Man should never be able to give Clark trouble.Still, he was only like an 8th of his powers or something like that, which would still make him still above a class 100, and Venom was handling him and Spider-Man like nothing.
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
He was fighting Cap Marvel, and other people, and he was holding his stomach for the whole fight...
He was pretty badly injured...
Originally posted by Jebus rebornI'd say that's a matter of opinion, of course you weren't around when no one believed me that Spiderman vs. Wolverine was a cononical crossover.
If it's mainstream, then it doesn't need any references.
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Well, the mere fact that it also had fan voted fights in it... doesn't make it better for the series... The story was horrible, the fights were horrible (Flash having problems with Quicksilver?), it was all around, a bad comic series.
Originally posted by Jebus rebornSee but some people are simply refusing to believe that Wolverine can do that, so extremes were brought up in comparison.
I still won't accept the Thanos one...
Also, Wolverine has already cut Herc in Contest of The Champions.Plus, Wolverine has a consistent basis of people he has cut (around Hulk level), he hardly needs a speculative feat, to prove he can cut someone around Hulk's level.
But really... Thanos?
I know Wolverine can cut Thor, but the difficulty comes in him beating him.
Originally posted by jinzinHis bone claws nearly cut right through Thanos... while, his adamantium ones, didn't even leave a mark, or affect him...
It's a better setting standard of evidence.. the point was that:
if bone claws can cut through something, adamantium will surely get the job done, because no matter how much the bone claws fluctuated they were still leagues behind his adamantium claws.
Originally posted by jinzinBatman doesn't need his weakness to beat him.
With Spidey, No, it was Red Sun radiation or something so Supes was weakened, and in context to that, whenever people use Supe's standard weaknesses he goes down pretty hard.. it's why Batman owns him all over DC so many times.
Originally posted by jinzinAhh, so I reread it.
I remember him grabbing towards the wound after Wolverine nailed him, after that? i don't recall him grabbing it anymore, when it started raining bloo he certainly wasn't concerned with injury.
None-the-less, he is an Eternal, and he walked around with 6 claw marks in his chest for the rest of the comic.
Originally posted by jinzinWhat?
I'd say that's a matter of opinion, of course you weren't around when no one believed me that Spiderman vs. Wolverine was a cononical crossover.
Originally posted by jinzinYou're arguing right now... 😛
You see me arguing?
Originally posted by jinzinOf course, of course, but it still makes no sense (the feat itself).
See but some people are simply refusing to believe that Wolverine can do that, so extremes were brought up in comparison.
Well I'm back, and it appears to me that most of the Wolverine arguments are garbage.
Lets see. Wolverine is weaker, slower, less durable, less experienced, but slightly more skilled. Seems pretty apparent to me that Wolverine has little two no chance in this match up. Now I understand Wolverine should be able to cut Thor, but enough so to beat or fatally wound him? I think not. At lest comic wise their's nothing supporting the claims that Wolverine can "gut" Thor.
Honestly I don't know whats left to argue. Thor grabs Wolverine mid swing, forces him to stab himself and then commences in sending him into orbit.
As for Jin's bullshit explanation as to why Thor can't send Wolverine into orbit from a single punch.....
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thorvikings05168ra.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thorvikings05179bg.jpg
Thor was weakened.....
Originally posted by Jebus rebornI assume that the infinity guanlet instantananeously repaired whatee damage was inflicted on him... and judging by Thanos pissed offness, I'd say damage was inflicted..
His bone claws nearly cut right through Thanos... while, his adamantium ones, didn't even leave a mark, or affect him...
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Batman doesn't need his weakness to beat him.
Also, Superman has done extremely well against his weaknesses.
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Ahh, so I reread it.None-the-less, he is an Eternal, and he walked around with 6 claw marks in his chest for the rest of the comic.
Maybe he healed but the blood was still there stained on him?
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
What?
Originally posted by Jebus rebornIt's comics.
Of course, of course, but it still makes no sense (the feat itself).
Originally posted by His AirnessSo basically you're jst coming in here ignoring previous arguments that don't suit Thor well, and started mough blabin without any proof to back yourself up... well at least you're consistent...
Well I'm back, and it appears to me that most of the Wolverine arguments are garbage.Lets see. Wolverine is weaker, slower, less durable, less experienced, but slightly more skilled. Seems pretty apparent to me that Wolverine has little two no chance in this match up. Now I understand Wolverine should be able to cut Thor, but enough so to beat or fatally wound him? I think not. At lest comic wise their's nothing supporting the claims that Wolverine can "gut" Thor.
Honestly I don't know whats left to argue. Thor grabs Wolverine mid swing, forces him to stab himself and then commences in sending him into orbit.
🙄
Originally posted by jinzinYou mean the Power Gem?
I assume that the infinity guanlet instantananeously repaired whatee damage was inflicted on him... and judging by Thanos pissed offness, I'd say damage was inflicted..
Thanos was also pissed off when he killed Vision... I didn't see damage inflicted.
I didn't see Thanos damaged once in that thing (except by Thor...), but I did see a lot of pis moments, never mind the Wolverine one right now... but Masterson Thor punching Thanos around, because his attack was so savage, that Thanos was momentarily taken back.
Thanos getting put on his knees from Iron Man, and got up all smoky...
Thanos getting KO'ed by Thor... twice (well, he got beat down the second time).
Frankly, I don't really see that comic as very good evidence...
Originally posted by jinzinHe powered up a massive machine, directly under red sunlight...
Sometimes... Not more often though that's for sure.
Originally posted by jinzinAnd this was indicated... where?
Maybe he healed but the blood was still there stained on him?
Originally posted by jinzinNow I'm not sure if you're talking about Spider-Man, or Marvel vs DC...
What I'm basically saying there is that canonical limited series' should be referenced, because how else would they be of value to the story?
Originally posted by jinzinEven comics make some sense.
It's comics.
