Thor (without Mjolnir) VS Wolverine

Started by Alfheim78 pages
Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes not that it matters.

I dunno man I thought it would be.....Hell he got mindcontrolled by Savage land mutate but cant get his mind controlled by Phoenix?

Originally posted by Alfheim
I think he fights Wendigo in issue 140......

Im pritty sure it issue 139
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm140pg13ww7.jpg

Originally posted by Alfheim
I dunno man I thought it would be.....Hell he got mindcontrolled by Savage land mutate but cant get his mind controlled by Phoenix?

actaully it were illisions not mind control. Logan is next to impossiable to mind control and when berserker it jsut does not happen.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Im pritty sure it issue 139
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm140pg13ww7.jpg

No...it..is....not....

Uncanny X-Men #140 [Vol.1]: Got it wrong..idiot..

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/uxm140pg13.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/uxm140pg14.jpg

Hell it got right back up and kicked his ass. That could be seen as a one off because he had to put everything into and it and then some....Hell he even says he cant put him down permenantly

Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully it were illisions not mind control. Logan is next to impossiable to mind control and when berserker it jsut does not happen.

and putting illusions in a persons mind isnt a form of mindcontrol?

He was off by one issue number, and was likely going from memory. No need to insult.

Originally posted by Soljer
He was off by one issue number, and was likely going from memory. No need to insult.

yup and last time I read it was in graphic noval form. sometimes the numbers all plur

Originally posted by Alfheim
No...it..is....not....

Uncanny X-Men #140 [Vol.1]: Got it wrong..idiot..

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/uxm140pg13.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/uxm140pg14.jpg

Hell it got right back up and kicked his ass. That could be seen as a one off because he had to put everything into and it and then some....Hell he even says he cant put him down permenantly

and putting illusions in a persons mind isnt a form of mindcontrol?

I was off by one number not bad seeing as how it was from memory.......

so who cares if wendigo got back up? wendigo is a beast.

The whole point of the arguement was the berserker aspect which that scanns clearly proves.

No illusions are not mind control. mind control is controling some ones mind forcing them to do things.

illusions are simply tricking the mind.

person in comics can be effected by illussions, but be very hard to actaully mind control telepathicly.

Originally posted by Soljer

Maybe current Thor wouldn't **** around as much, but classic's personality would DEFINITELY lead him into a brawl, rather than sit back and call down the storm a few dozen times.

The same lightning that KOed Savage Hulk? Few dozen times.... ? 😕

Originally posted by Alfheim
No...it..is....not....

Uncanny X-Men #140 [Vol.1]: Got it wrong..idiot..

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/uxm140pg13.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/uxm140pg14.jpg

Hell it got right back up and kicked his ass. That could be seen as a one off because he had to put everything into and it and then some....Hell he even says he cant put him down permenantly

and putting illusions in a persons mind isnt a form of mindcontrol?

Wow...

That was such a dickish move.

Originally posted by Tron
Okay, I know Wolverine's healing factor is good and all, but why in the hell is he doing shit like walking through Havok's plasma blasts?🤨

The power of Fanservice, of course. Havok rips 747's in half, makes boulders explode, and laid waste to the original Genoshan Citidel in a single blast.

Wolverines writers have indulged in such rediculous excesses over the years that he's almost pointless to discuss.

Originally posted by Laminator_X
The power of Fanservice, of course. Havok rips 747's in half, makes boulders explode, and laid waste to the original Genoshan Citidel in a single blast.

Wolverines writers have indulged in such rediculous excesses over the years that he's almost pointless to discuss.

......what tron talking about happen like 15 years ago lol

Logan no more power up over the years the any other guy. people just whine about him more, because he popular, but he the poplar guy people love to hate.

Not really.

We give real reasons. Then the fans say its because you hate him and what not. Its just because we dislike bad characters.

Originally posted by Rhinoceros
The same lightning that KOed Savage Hulk? Few dozen times.... ? 😕

Did you see me comment on it's power? Or Thor's personality?

😕.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I was off by one number not bad seeing as how it was from memory.......

so who cares if wendigo got back up? wendigo is a beast.

The whole point of the arguement was the berserker aspect which that scanns clearly proves.

No illusions are not mind control. mind control is controling some ones mind forcing them to do things.

illusions are simply tricking the mind.

person in comics can be effected by illussions, but be very hard to actaully mind control telepathicly.

I'd say it was damn good seeing as you went from memory.

I couldn't agree more with mind control versus illusions. 👆

Originally posted by B.A
Not really.

We give real reasons. Then the fans say its because you hate him and what not. Its just because we dislike bad characters.

he a bad character yet he is the foundation on which anti-hero were disgned after as the whole...........

not to mention he the second best seller for marvel.........ya it must be becuase he a bad character.

you give shitty reasons. I find it funny when one complains about wolverine..........yet think iceman, storm and so forth are completely fine.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
he a bad character yet he is the foundation on which anti-hero were disgned after as the whole...........

not to mention he the second best seller for marvel.........ya it must be becuase he a bad character.

Appeal to tradition and appeal to majority.

Neither make for convincing arguments.

Originally posted by Soljer
Appeal to tradition and appeal to majority.

Neither make for convincing arguments.

if the majority of people like a certain character would not that prove or at least strongerly suggest the character is a good one.

also would not other characters being based off a single character suggest that single character had qualities the writers them selfs thought were worth duplicationg helping to further prove the character is a good one?

I mean Thats pritty much the best way to prove a character is good. Other then that it simply one person a opinion over anothers which is a unwinalbe arguement.

so in the end the majority of people feel he is a good character against the few who think he is not. Really thats what it comes down to peoples opinions there not way to definatly prove one character is better then another.

why do you always gotta bust my balls lol

Originally posted by Battlehammer
if the majority of people like a certain character would not that prove or at least strongerly suggest the character is a good one.

If the majority of people think that blacks should be in chains or Jews in gas chambers, does that not prove that it's a great idea?

Originally posted by Battlehammer

also would not other characters being based off a single character suggest that single character had qualities the writers them selfs thought were worth duplicationg helping to further prove the character is a good one?

If much of our current knowledge of medicine and anatomy were based off of Nazi torture and experimentation during World War II, would that not mean that said abhorrent actions were good?

Originally posted by Battlehammer

I mean Thats pritty much the best way to prove a character is good. Other then that it simply one person a opinion over anothers which is a unwinalbe arguement.

I mean, that's pretty much the way to prove that something was good, right? It brought about good results. Otherwise, it's simply your opinion, which isn't a winnable argument.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

so in the end the majority of people feel he is a good character against the few who think he is not. Really thats what it comes down to peoples opinions there not way to definatly prove one character is better then another.

why do you always gotta bust my balls lol

So, in the end, a majority of people felt that non-whites were inferior overall. Really, that's what it comes down to; peoples' opinions. That definitely proves which ideas are valid and not.

Originally posted by B.A
Not really.

We give real reasons. Then the fans say its because you hate him and what not. Its just because we dislike bad characters.

I think he's a great character, for which I have great affection. That's why it sticks in my craw to see him wasted by bad writing and poor editorial decisions.

(Oh, and Thor takes a solid majority)

Originally posted by Soljer
If the majority of people think that blacks should be in chains or Jews in gas chambers, does that not prove that it's a great idea?

If much of our current knowledge of medicine and anatomy were based off of Nazi torture and experimentation during World War II, would that not mean that said abhorrent actions were good?

I mean, that's pretty much the way to prove that something was good, right? It brought about good results. Otherwise, it's simply your opinion, which isn't a winnable argument.

So, in the end, a majority of people felt that non-whites were inferior overall. Really, that's what it comes down to; peoples' opinions. That definitely proves which ideas are valid and not.

.......saw thsi comming a mile away.

so Like I said it one groups opinion over another there no way to prove which character is better then another.

so there no way to prove in any way that logan,spiderman and so forth are good characters, but theres also no way to prove there bad.

we can however prove that they are popular characters.

unlike the events of slavary there is no moral area that proves which side was the correct one.

oh and ps: majority of people did not believe jews should be gas. That was a small minority who happen to have a lot of power.