Darth Vader vs Star Forge Malak.

Started by Nephthys6 pagesPoll

Vae victis?

Darth Vader vs Star Forge Malak.

Malak as he was in the final fight of Kotor, with all his captive jedi prepped and ready to be drained. Obviously this fight takes place on the Forge.

Malak can use Force lightning. Vader's dead.

So could Starkiller. Didn't decide the match for him.

Malak knows Force Stun that affects Force users. Something apparently forgotten or not practiced in PT-times.

QED, pretty eyes.

Malak

Vader takes this

Originally posted by bayhunter12
Vader takes this

Fail.

Personally I'd go with Vader as well.

Nephthys has pretty eyes...

Vader beats Malak, BTW.

LOL, well wouldn't the Dark side powers of the Star Forge enhance Vader's ability as well? IDK if Vader knows Force Drain, but if does, he can prey on those Jedi as well. And since Vader > Malak in normal conditions, he would take this.

HOWEVER, if you are saying a normal Vader (who can't take advantage of his settings) vs. a powered Malak, then I would have to say Malak. I can't envision Vader replicating Revan's feat.

Sure, it would be extremely close, but I see the "nearly unstoppable" Malak winning in a thrilling contest.

As far as I know, Vader does not, in fact, know how to utilise Force Drain. If he can he can use his environment, but lets not pull feats out of our ass for him.

If that's the case, it would be Malak with Jedi puppet fuel vs. Darth Vader.

I see Vader being smart enough to destroy some of the tanks when he gets the chance to push back Malak. He would win.

I still maintain that a normal Vader against SF & Jedi powered Malak would lose however.

Originally posted by Nephthys
As far as I know, Vader does not, in fact, know how to utilise Force Drain. If he can he can use his environment, but lets not pull feats out of our ass for him.

When has Vader ever shown the ability to use it?

Also, Drew confirmed that Malak was syphoning SF power on his own. While Vader may get a passive boost as a Dark Sider, the "master" of the Forge is and was Malak at the time of the epic duel and presumably this one as well. If you argue "Vader who suddenly knows Force drain despite never using it in canon material and can tap the ancient Star Forge of which he normally knows nothing and he is in the zone and the stars are lined up perfectly oh god yes" then I suppose I can understand where you're coming from.

But I'd still say Malak > Vader by a long shot. Lightning burst. Force drain. Stun. Saber longer than your body. Rinse, Repeat. Hope to God Vader doesn't chuck something at you in that big empty room.

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Nephthys has pretty eyes...

I wouldn't know. I only ever see the back of his head.
On-topic, Vader wins by virtue of being a newer Sith and thus vastly moar powerful.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
When has Vader ever shown the ability to use it?

Also, Drew confirmed that Malak was syphoning SF power on his own. While Vader may get a passive boost as a Dark Sider, the "master" of the Forge is and was Malak at the time of the epic duel and presumably this one as well. If you argue "Vader who suddenly knows Force drain despite never using it in canon material and can tap the ancient Star Forge of which he normally knows nothing and he is in the zone and the stars are lined up perfectly oh god yes" then I suppose I can understand where you're coming from.

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I said that he didn't know Force Drain.

Originally posted by Nephthys
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I said that he didn't know Force Drain.

Sorry, misread.

Vader wins because he's a monster.

Vader wins until Revan's released. Drew may claim to avoid overpowering Revan, but he'll still beef him up by describing Malak as Dark Side demon. Then Malak will win.

Honestly though, c'mon, if Revan isn't next to Skywalker, Yoda, Windu, "Zonakin," and Marek/Starkiller in power after Drew's book, idk what to say. He has a legendary reputation, receives overwhelming adulation over his incredible Force strength, and has few but ridiculous established feats.

I understand Drew doesn't want to overpower him, but if he tries too hard to the extent that Revan is quite mediocre, that'll be extremely disappointing to such a compelling character.

Compelling characters needn't be extraordinarily powerful in the Force.

Revan's got enough going for him by way of talent that if he's not top tier in terms of Force strength, he'll be just fine.