Starkiller and Luke versus Kun and Sidious

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Agreed. The teaser trailer for TFU II with the budding battle on Hoth and the rampant Force mastery on behalf of Starkiller made me want to hate-vomit. I can understand movie characters having low showings simply to keep them in line with GL's vision, and accepting EU characters as overblown and exaggerated keeping in line with the canon policy of "It gets blurrier as you move away from movie canon blah blah", but the whole Force choking a battalion and then Dark Phoenix-ing them with the Force is OP.

This made me puke...

Anyway the game was major lulz worthy. At one point, Starkiller talks to Yoda for like half a minute and then tells SK to follow his vision. Wnen does Yoda ever do that, in fact he always warns people about visions and the danger of pursuing them. Really the entire scene just seemed like Yoda wanted to rid of Starkiller.

"Not the one I want are you. Now get the **** out of my swamp you will."

Well since you all hate it, I love it.

Originally posted by Korto Vos
Huh, interesting placements.

I don't see Zonakin repeating the same treatment against Windu.

Considering Zonakin is tapping his maximum potential in an extremely rare and almost isolated event, it's assumed that he could destroy anybody if he got in close. Still, Zonakin is effective, but not sustaining nor is he indicative of typical Lil' Annie's fighting style. He's hypothetical, like Darth Yoda.

Yeah, I made the Caedus vs. Kun thread to see which Sith Lord was stronger. It seems fairly even atm.

I'd rank the Sith as Sidious, Bane, Caedus, Kun, and Vader. I'd probably place Nihilus, Revan, and Tyrannus in some arrangement as the next three.

Nihilus should be ranked higher by virtue of his alien nature, and the fact that he can sap life and Force better than anyone. He was literally undone by a hole in the Force, not by sheer strength or cunning. Also, Adas, Sadow and Ragnos are higher tier masters of the Dark Side and likely a rival for any one on that list. They should be given honorable mentions since they cannot be quantified by anything other then reputation and legacy.

Originally posted by ares834
This made me puke...

Anyway the game was major lulz worthy. At one point, Starkiller talks to Yoda for like half a minute and then tells SK to follow his vision. Wnen does Yoda ever do that, in fact he always warns people about visions and the danger of pursuing them. Really the entire scene just seemed like Yoda wanted to rid of Starkiller.

"Not the one I want are you. Now get the **** out of my swamp you will."

Did he just Force push Vader through three or four walls of metal? I think I'm hemorraging.

Teehee, Adas. Its like Anus.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Teehee, Adas. I like Anus.

he

I've never heard of Adas actually. He sounds pretty cool, but nothing conclusive to put him in the top 10.

He was strong enough in the dark side that his body was pretty much disintegrating, if I recall correctly.

Starkiller is the weakest link.

What has King Adas actually done?

Originally posted by ares834
What has King Adas actually done?

Drove off the Infinite Empire with a battle axe and his Sith magic. Mind you, this is the Sith species before the arrival of the Dark Jedi. He united Korriban for the first time in recorded history and was its chief warrior. His life is the basis for the sith'ari myth. Also, his holocron was enough to make Freedan Nadd go from a rogue Jedi to the dominating factor on Onderon and worthy of recognition from the Sith lords sleeping on Korriban.

While he hasn't murdered anyone on screen, I'd say he's probably up there, to have accomplished all that before the Sith even had space travel.

I see it as Sidious, Bane, Caedus, Kun, Vader, Nihilus, Revan, Tyrannus, Ragnos, and Zannah forming the top ten.

Then it becomes a pain to match up. Traya, Qel-Droma, Sadow, and Kas'im all were mighty Sith.

Give some love to Krayt, huh?

I hate Krayt and the whole One Sith arc. Seriously, A'Sharad Hett?! Wtf, are you kidding me?

And the Jedi Order is destroyed again. Oh that's nice and not unoriginal at all.

Originality hasn't been seen in Star Wars for a long. A long time. Legacy, The Old Republic, Dragonball Z---I uh, mean The Force Unleashed... all ripoffs.

Hah, ya no kidding

Nihilus 4th?

It's hard for me to rank Nihilus simply because he is a bloody "wound in the Force" and can suck up lives as if he were chomping on a burrito. He's more hungry than alive.

Granted, I still rank him very high because I see him as a powerful Sith Lord nonetheless. However, I like to think in a combat situation, he just has a potent Force Drain, and therefore can be defeated by stronger Sith Lords.

If N. is correct and "at their peak" does not refer to full potential, then I'm perhaps inclined to side with team two. Team one can only win by the merit of Luke, as Starkiller isn't in Palpatine's league.

Originally posted by Korto Vos
It's hard for me to rank Nihilus simply because he is a bloody "wound in the Force" and can suck up lives as if he were chomping on a burrito. He's more hungry than alive.

Granted, I still rank him very high because I see him as a powerful Sith Lord nonetheless. However, I like to think in a combat situation, he just has a potent Force Drain, and therefore can be defeated by stronger Sith Lords.

My own opinion is that the Drain is enough to beat pretty much most combatants. Though I'd also rate his TK really high. The only thing that holds him back is the lack of actual combat knowledge, so we can't rule out him just being blitzed. Though in my own personal opinion I'd say it would be pretty hard for him to be blitzed given his lack of a physical body. It would take either time or esoteric methods to kill him.