Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusKeep holding onto that belief despite not being able to do so against Hulk himself. Not raging at all you just sound like jellyrobes saying Superman's stronger than captain Marvel while dismissing their on panel confrontations and referencing Thor's highest feats outside of his matchups against the Hulk. You can dance around the issue and ignore Thor's statements and their history all you like in a bizarre jellyrobes type promotion of Thor in the end you know I'm right as rain.
So....you're going to do pretty much what I said you'd do? Figures, anyways, I'll keep this brief.I pointed out that with the power Thor can bring to bear, he can take the Hulk in one blow which you latched onto and denied he has the capabilities to accomplish the feat. I disagree and I think the claim is reasonable. I'm realistic, I doubt it would happen in a battle -outside of that one time- but I think it's a very real possibility . Especially seeing as how he has taken a large chunk out of Galactus and even Celestial Armor, caused severe pain to high end beings like Surtur and other Skyfather entities with blows, has one shot defeated Herald level beings, one shot killed a Herald of Galactus, the Midgard Serpent and so on. With the amount of power he can channel into Mjolnir, I believe it's well within Thor's capabilities to take the Hulk down in one mighty blow. Hell, Cosmic Entities should avoid getting hit with the power he can bring to bear.
That's all I have to say on the matter. Feel free to disagree. If you feel so damn strongly about it, we can debate Thor's capabilities to take down a Herald level being in a battle zone because I'm not wasting any more time with you. Don't have the energy.
Next time, take a little more time writing your posts. I know I've got you raging right now, but bits of don't even make sense.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Keep holding onto that belief despite not being able to do so against Hulk himself.
He did it in The Reigning.
The Hulk may have been an alternate timeline one, but it was basically 616 until Thor changed it by going back and time, and it's still our Thor. I mean, he remembers doing it all.
Here's the thing:
Iron Man knocked out Savage Hulk.. Thor's best hammer strike should be > Iron Mans best punch. At the least, it should be equivalent. And he can bust out multiple shots, instead of only one.
Namor knocked out Savage Hulk, too. Twice.
A lot of characters < Thor have done it. And this isn't regular Thor, this is Thor going for the kill..
The fact Thor was supposedly in Warrior Madness mode, yet did exactly as well as he's ever done in normal mode (I've seen the fight now), tells me that was a moment of PIS. If normal Thor can match Hulk, Thor x10 should pwn.
IH 440 Thor had nothing on Blood and Thunder Thor, even before getting the Power Gem.
Originally posted by cdtm
Here's the thing:Iron Man knocked out Savage Hulk.. Thor's best hammer strike should be > Iron Mans best punch. At the least, it should be equivalent. And he can bust out multiple shots, instead of only one.
Namor knocked out Savage Hulk, too. Twice.
A lot of characters < Thor have done it. And this isn't regular Thor, this is Thor going for the kill..
The fact Thor was supposedly in Warrior Madness mode, yet did exactly as well as he's ever done in normal mode (I've seen the fight now), tells me that was a moment of PIS. If normal Thor can match Hulk, Thor x10 should pwn.
IH 440 Thor had nothing on Blood and Thunder Thor, even before getting the Power Gem.
I dont think you want to go there with this post buddy. Thor got shot in the head with a bullet and died... Hulk fist>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a bullet. Panther put Surfer in the arm bar and almost broke it... Hulk arm bar>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Panthers armbar. I'm not going to bring up Superman because I dont want to make Bada of Pr mad but you get the point.
Originally posted by carver9
I dont think you want to go there with this post buddy. Thor got shot in the head with a bullet and died... Hulk fist>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a bullet. Panther put Surfer in the arm bar and almost broke it... Hulk arm bar>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Panthers armbar. I'm not going to bring up Superman because I dont want to make Bada of Pr mad but you get the point.
And Hulk got beat by a snake. But I didn't bring that up, because it's clear cut PIS, the same as Panther hurting Surfer with an armbar and Thor being knocked out by a bullet.
Bad, BAD examples.
Originally posted by psycho gundamI like how people like to forget that in THAT fight, Thor was WINNING when he was using Mjolnir.
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Then Hulk took a woman hostage and threatened to kill her unless Thor fought with his bare hands. Anyone with half a brain can tell you that Hulk> Thor/with bare hands.
Of course Thor got the worse of that fight. However, with Mjolnir Hulk was on his butt bleeding from his nose asking Thor to fight without his hammer...
And Rage.of.olympus, I don't see why the latest Fear Itself proves that Hulk pops class 100 heads like a cherry, as you mentioned in that Superman vs Hulk thread.
Thor did FINE against current Hulk. He survived an extended beatdown, and he was in turn beating him down with the hammer, having an effect on him, and knocked him into orbit.. Sure, he collapsed afterwards, but it's not like Hulk wasn't taking damage or staggering, like Rulk was..
If current Hulk was powerful enough to just pop Supermans head like a cherry, as you claimed that fight proves, he would have done the same to Thor during that beatdown.
And that's why I think Thor has good odds against Savage Hulk.. Because, losing or not, Thor had an impressive showing against current Hulk, even in defeat. Especially if that Hulk is as overpowered as everyone claims.. That makes Thor surviving such a savage assault a feather in his cap, so to speak.
Originally posted by cdtmCurrent Hulk in hulk's latest ish isn't the one who took Thor on. That Hulk seems like he's just above top tier. The worthy Hulk is just an elite top tier just like the Hulk is normally.
And Rage.of.olympus, I don't see why the latest Fear Itself proves that Hulk pops class 100 heads like a cherry, as you mentioned in that Superman vs Hulk thread.Thor did FINE against current Hulk. He survived an extended beatdown, and he was in turn beating him down with the hammer, having an effect on him, and knocked him into orbit.. Sure, he collapsed afterwards, but it's not like Hulk wasn't taking damage or staggering, like Rulk was..
If current Hulk was powerful enough to just pop Supermans head like a cherry, as you claimed that fight proves, he would have done the same to Thor during that beatdown.
And that's why I think Thor has good odds against Savage Hulk.. Because, losing or not, Thor had an impressive showing against current Hulk, even in defeat. Especially if that Hulk is as overpowered as everyone claims.. That makes Thor surviving such a savage assault a feather in his cap, so to speak.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Current Hulk in hulk's latest ish isn't the one who took Thor on. That Hulk seems like he's just above top tier. The worthy Hulk is just an elite top tier just like the Hulk is normally.
Why would Worthy Hulk be just an Elite Top Tier? All of the Worthy got a significant boost in power, Worthy Hulk would at bare minimum be above Herald level.
Worthy Thing, Worthy Grey Gargoyle, Worthy Attuma, Worthy Juggernaut and probably Worthy Absorbing Man are all Elite Top Tiers I'd wager. Sin has probably reached Herald level but isn't on that level. If Titania keeps up the high end showings in Avengers Academy I could definitely see her being a Mid Herald.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusHulk might get a tiny boost in power but there's nothing to suggest he's more powerful than elite top tier in the fear arc.
Why would Worthy Hulk be just an Elite Top Tier? All of the Worthy got a significant boost in power, Worthy Hulk would at bare minimum be above Herald level.Worthy Thing, Worthy Grey Gargoyle, Worthy Attuma, Worthy Juggernaut and probably Worthy Absorbing Man are all Elite Top Tiers I'd wager. Sin has probably reached Herald level but isn't on that level. If Titania keeps up the high end showings in Avengers Academy I could definitely see her being a Mid Herald.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusso far, worthy juggernaut seems the strongest of them all. veritably trans level, I'd wager.
Why would Worthy Hulk be just an Elite Top Tier? All of the Worthy got a significant boost in power, Worthy Hulk would at bare minimum be above Herald level.Worthy Thing, Worthy Grey Gargoyle, Worthy Attuma, Worthy Juggernaut and probably Worthy Absorbing Man are all Elite Top Tiers I'd wager. Sin has probably reached Herald level but isn't on that level. If Titania keeps up the high end showings in Avengers Academy I could definitely see her being a Mid Herald.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Current Hulk in hulk's latest ish isn't the one who took Thor on. That Hulk seems like he's just above top tier. The worthy Hulk is just an elite top tier just like the Hulk is normally.
But the storylines are running concurrently, aren't they?
So who's really the current Hulk?