Savage Hulk vs Thor

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
No way.

Thor can construct impenetrable shields, teleport, absorb and transmute matter/energy, fly, create storms, summong lighting, anti-force blasts, God blasts, and life drains. He used to be able to time travel (in a way still can), and still has more abilities.

Hulk gets really strong and smashes stuff. He can regenerate like crazy, and can radiate gamma.

Thor wins the powerset hands down. Hulk is just the stronger/more durable brick, which is how Thor ALWAYS fights him (like an idiot).

Like I said before, what happens if you try atomizing Hulks entire body?

Never mind that Thor would never do it, what happens if he tried? Or if a any character capable of causing as much damage as Thor tried it?

It's not like Thor isn't capable of that, or Hulk is too durable for such a tactic.. Gladiators heat vision penetrated Hulks chest to his heart, and he's been injured by far less than Thor is capable of outputting. Look at the giant godblast Thor used on Big G. That thing would cover Hulks entire body, and probably leave nothing left..

Originally posted by cdtm
Like I said before, what happens if you try atomizing Hulks entire body?

Never mind that Thor would never do it, what happens if he tried? Or if a any character capable of causing as much damage as Thor tried it?

It's not like Thor isn't capable of that, or Hulk is too durable for such a tactic.. Gladiators heat vision penetrated Hulks chest to his heart, and he's been injured by far less than Thor is capable of outputting. Look at the giant godblast Thor used on Big G. That thing would cover Hulks entire body, and probably leave nothing left..

Originally posted by cdtm
Like I said before, what happens if you try atomizing Hulks entire body?

Never mind that Thor would never do it, what happens if he tried? Or if a any character capable of causing as much damage as Thor tried it?

It's not like Thor isn't capable of that, or Hulk is too durable for such a tactic.. Gladiators heat vision penetrated Hulks chest to his heart, and he's been injured by far less than Thor is capable of outputting. Look at the giant godblast Thor used on Big G. That thing would cover Hulks entire body, and probably leave nothing left..

What is the Hulk going to do if Thor becomes homicidal and uses Soul Suck?

Not a dam thing other than die...

The Hulk only has a chance if Thor fights like a dumb, flightless, brick opposed to an experienced warrior god with many centuries of experience...

End of story...

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there is no reason whatsoever for an attack like soulsuck not to work on the hulk, but if the day ever comes that thor does pull that out against him, we'll be presented to some shit about how hulk's spirit is way too strong for that. same goes for almot any popular character with his own title.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I said Thor is far more versatile but a powerset to me which is based off of anger levels and you can heal from the bone with being as strong as he has in the past. This makes this powerset a landslide for me. I said Thor could easily bfr the Hulk but that's not really beating the Hulk and Thor's about as prideful as a warrior can be.

Thor doesn't HAVE to bfr Hulk to win, he could use one of his higher abilities, like Transmutation (which he did to Absorbing Man), or God-Blast, Life Drain, or Anti-force. Any one of those would beat Hulk (well, the Anti-force may not). Still, Thor won't do that because he's a warrior and fights Hulk down on Hulk's level. Thor > Hulk in power, he just doesn't use it on him.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thor saved Banner's life before when they were fighting and Hulk turned into Banner. He teleported him to earth so he wouldn't die of suffocation. Thor doesn't TRY to kill Hulk, he could have in the past.

Thor doesn't HAVE to bfr Hulk to win, he could use one of his higher abilities, like Transmutation (which he did to Absorbing Man), or God-Blast, Life Drain, or Anti-force. Any one of those would beat Hulk (well, the Anti-force may not). Still, Thor won't do that because he's a warrior and fights Hulk down on Hulk's level. Thor > Hulk in power, he just doesn't use it on him.

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
What is the Hulk going to do if Thor becomes homicidal and uses Soul Suck?

Not a dam thing other than die...

The Hulk only has a chance if Thor fights like a dumb, flightless, brick opposed to an experienced warrior god with many centuries of experience...

End of story...

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False.

@carver

So whats the Hulk going to do if Thor stays to the air and rains down lightning on him?

If "the fix" isnt in, absolutely nothing other than get owned; dodging a jumping Hulk (or simply swatting him down with a Mjolnir strike) should be trivial...as should dodging/swatting down any projectile the Hulk attempts to use against him.

What defense does Hulk have to getting his soul taken away?

None sans PIS...

At the end of the day this isnt even a contest if Thor utilizes his other abilities against the Hulk; the Hulk can only be effective against Thor in close quarters combat, and Thor has many capabilities that would allow him to maintain distance, beat the Hulk senseless, with the Hulk never being able to put a finger on him...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
@carver

So whats the Hulk going to do if Thor stays to the air and rains down lightning on him?

If "the fix" isnt in, absolutely nothing other than get owned; dodging a jumping Hulk (or simply swatting him down with a Mjolnir strike) should be trivial...as should dodging/swatting down any projectile the Hulk attempts to use against him.

What defense does Hulk have to getting his soul taken away?

None sans PIS...

At the end of the day this isnt even a contest if Thor utilizes his other abilities against the Hulk; the Hulk can only be effective against Thor in close quarters combat, and Thor has many capabilities that would allow him to maintain distance, beat the Hulk senseless, with the Hulk never being able to put a finger on him...

Thor isn't going to beat Superman or Surfer 10/10 via soul sucking and he sure as hell isn't beating Hulk 10/10 with it either.

Hulk has shown on numerous of occasions that he can jump at tremendous speeds...hell, he could jump out of orbit. He can get to Thor and one lightning attack isn't stopping him either.

Using your type of debating (since Thor only showed soul suck one time), Hulk would dimension clap Thor a** to dust. Do you see how that goes?

Hulk destroying a dimension with a Thunder Clap is just as PIS ridden as Thor using Mjolnir to absorb and redirect a blast capable of destroying 1/5th of the universe; there is no PIS here in a forum fight...

Even if Hulk manages to reach Thor, Thor could just free himself and repeat the process; Thor would have to be hovering in 1 spot for the Hulk to have a reasonable chance to reach him in the 1st place...especially since he'll be constantly struck by lightning.

Thor could just fly, keep moving, and just rain down lightning on the Hulk; the Hulk has no defense to this and PIS isnt needed to make this strategy a reality...

This strategy beats Hulk every single time without fail...

Originally posted by carver9
Thor isn't going to beat Superman or Surfer 10/10 via soul sucking and he sure as hell isn't beating Hulk 10/10 with it either.

That's mainly because Superman and Surfer have speed and maneuverability options Hulk lacks, so can keep on top of him and not give him a chance to use his more exotic powers.

Hulk, on the other hand, is pretty much screwed if Thor decides to keep his distance and use exotic attacks on him.

And for the record, Superman would be screwed too, if Thor uses his hammer to move well out of range and nuke him from afar.. Supermans fast, but the hammer is faster.

It's Thor vs Supermans native speed that comes into debate, and whether Superman can initially strike him down before he can channel his powers..

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thor saved Banner's life before when they were fighting and Hulk turned into Banner. He teleported him to earth so he wouldn't die of suffocation. Thor doesn't TRY to kill Hulk, he could have in the past.

Thor doesn't HAVE to bfr Hulk to win, he could use one of his higher abilities, like Transmutation (which he did to Absorbing Man), or God-Blast, Life Drain, or Anti-force. Any one of those would beat Hulk (well, the Anti-force may not). Still, Thor won't do that because he's a warrior and fights Hulk down on Hulk's level. Thor > Hulk in power, he just doesn't use it on him.

On paper that's nice and I do agree a godblast works provided he has the time to pull it off. I just feel more or less this is Hulk's fight because you nailed it he fights to Hulk's strengths. I don't see Thor beating an all out Hulk the one Pak just put on the table though. He'd break Thor pretty quickly.

Whether or not Thor could beat current "Pak" Hulk is irrelevant. This is Savage Hulk. And that wasn't savage Hulk that "saved" Thor (Thor would have survived the blast), it was merged Hulk (had alot more intelligence than Savage.

Point is, if Thor wanted to he could dispatch of Savage Hulk using his abilities every time, by teleport or whatever. But he doesn't, he wants to fight and Hulk is one of the only creatures he can hit with all his strength.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Whether or not Thor could beat current "Pak" Hulk is irrelevant. This is Savage Hulk. And that wasn't savage Hulk that "saved" Thor (Thor would have survived the blast), it was merged Hulk (had alot more intelligence than Savage.

Point is, if Thor wanted to he could dispatch of Savage Hulk using his abilities every time, by teleport or whatever. But he doesn't, he wants to fight and Hulk is one of the only creatures he can hit with all his strength.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thor saved Banner's life before when they were fighting and Hulk turned into Banner. He teleported him to earth so he wouldn't die of suffocation. Thor doesn't TRY to kill Hulk, he could have in the past.

Thor doesn't HAVE to bfr Hulk to win, he could use one of his higher abilities, like Transmutation (which he did to Absorbing Man), or God-Blast, Life Drain, or Anti-force. Any one of those would beat Hulk (well, the Anti-force may not). Still, Thor won't do that because he's a warrior and fights Hulk down on Hulk's level. Thor > Hulk in power, he just doesn't use it on him.

Originally posted by carver9

Using your type of debating (since Thor only showed soul suck one time), Hulk would dimension clap Thor a** to dust. Do you see how that goes?

Is the dimension clap from Incredible Hulks 634, or some other feat?

Because I have the issue in front of me, and I'm not convinced he destroyed the entire dimension.. He's called "Worldbreaker", as the planet is being destroyed, and the surrounding destruction opens the door for arguing he wasted the solar system, at most.

Skaar > Hulk, and also seemed > Red She Hulk when Hulk and Skaar fought..

A case can be made for Red Hulk being the strongest Hulk, since he knocked out a Watcher in a few punches and killed Grandmaster in about as many, which I'd put up against a solar system busting feat any day..

Thor imo. Has versatility and the power to match it.

Ugh, this last page is horrible.