Originally posted by carver9
So you are telling me Surfer or Thor could tank punches without flinching from an average Wendigo or Bi-Beast? So Thor and Surfer can tank punches without flinching from a Wendigo that is a 1000 times more powerful.Show me.
Surfer already got own by Armaggedon who got two paneled by a holding back Hulk.
Read the edit and while you're at it, respond to my previous post as well.
Btw, I said that they would beat them in a fight, not tank their best blows.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
So only their class 100x1000 strength (and that guy's ability to siphon energy or whatever he did with his hand) made them skyfathers? Nah, Wendigo and Bi-Beast they would've still lost to any versatile powerhouse like Thor or Silver Surfer granted they used their powers properly. The other guy said that he had already defeated the Silver Surfer so I'm not sure about him. Regardless, he didn't have the chance to utilize his power when the planet was destroyed.
Armageddon was blasting Hulk in the back (and he was amped as well) and it did nothing.
Again I ask...can Thor and Surfer stand still and tank punches from beings that are clearly PHYSICALLY trans plus beings? Simple question.
Thor and Surfer are more versatile than Prime but Prime would physically crush them. I don't get your argument.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Zeus defeated Galactus... sneerMonarch defeated Chris Kent and SBP
SBP defeated Monarch and an Monitor
Zeus was amped.
SuperBOY Prime never defeated Monarch. Now when he had the Guardian amp he did but he was getting stomped and had to resort to ripping Monarch containment suit. What else do you have?
Chris Kent isn't Skyfather and Superboy Prime isn't skyfather either.
Originally posted by carver9
Armageddon was blasting Hulk in the back (and he was amped as well) and it did nothing.Again I ask...can Thor and Surfer stand still and tank punches from beings that are clearly PHYSICALLY trans plus beings? Simple question.
Thor and Surfer are more versatile than Prime but Prime would physically crush them. I don't get your argument.
Just because you say they are Trans doesn't mean they are. Surfer and Thor just have to take punches from herald chars to prove then can take the punches of amped bi-beast and wendigo.
Originally posted by carver9
Armageddon was blasting Hulk in the back (and he was amped as well) and it did nothing.Again I ask...can Thor and Surfer stand still and tank punches from beings that are clearly PHYSICALLY trans plus beings? Simple question.
Thor and Surfer are more versatile than Prime but Prime would physically crush them. I don't get your argument.
"Btw, I said that they would beat them in a fight, not tank their best blows."
Superboy Prime has a shit ton of powers whereas Hulk only has a few. Big difference.
And again, where is the galaxy thing coming from? It was only a planet.
Originally posted by carver9
Zeus was amped.SuperBOY Prime never defeated Monarch. Now when he had the Guardian amp he did but he was getting stomped and had to resort to ripping Monarch containment suit. What else do you have?
Chris Kent isn't Skyfather and Superboy Prime isn't skyfather either.
Zeus was amped? May I quote the best poster on this Forum?
Originally posted by carver9
Didn't a slightly amped Zeus drop Galactus with that same lightning?
He was hangin win Monarch that's enough.
Chris was Translevel and GA SBP was Skyfatherlevel.
Simple. Really ^^
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
IMO
Zeus(as recently written by pak)=DP Tyrant
Originally posted by zopzop
Hilarious, people will ride that "Kubik universe warping" feat to the ground, while lowballing Tyrant.Based on his powerset and energy sources I think he has a good chance against every Tier , with Tiers 5 and 7 being the major headaches and that's only because of the Trans Tier beings.
Regarding the Skyfathers and Elder Gods, Tyrant gets his power from the biosphere of every planet in the universe (let's just ignore his other source of power, his energy spheres for now). The Gods (both Skyfathers and Elders) were created by the Demiurge in the biosphere of the planet Earth. Tyrant will literally be empowered by their assaults. Even if the biospheric energy was metabolized into something else, Tyrant can still absorb it. As he showed vs Galactus when he stated that the Power Cosmic was nothing more than synthesized biospheric energy.
Proof :
a) The Gods were formed from the Biosphere and Demiurge is a part of it -
b) Tyrant (even "DP" Tyrant) draws power from the biosphere of every planet in the universe (stated by both Galactus and Tyrant)-
c) Even biospheric energy that has been synthesized into other forms of power (like the Power Cosmic) can be absorbed by him -
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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Just because you say they are Trans doesn't mean they are. Surfer and Thor just have to take punches from herald chars to prove then can take the punches of amped bi-beast and wendigo.
Savage Hulk has planetary strength... Thor is physically a high Herald...basically considered Supermans equal. Savage Hulk stalemated Thor and has actually been stated as being physically stronger than Thor. This same high Herald stats Savage Hulk fought Wendigo and Bi-Beast in the past and struggled and got stalemated in more than one occasion. That physically make them high Herald physical stats Savage Hulk equal who is equal to Thor who is equal to Superman. Well these same physical high Herald beingw was amped 1000 folds...now let's all use our brains...picture Superman or Thor being amped a thousand folds.
Let's use Batman Prime favorite language. What if Doomsday was amped a thousand folds...what tier would that put him at? What if this amped Doomsday fought Superman and Superman stood there tanking all of his punches...how would you look at that ft. Now let's use 2 of those Doomsday along with adding another being who crushed Surfer with ease.
Common sense.
Originally posted by carver9
Savage Hulk has planetary strength... Thor is physically a high Herald...basically considered Supermans equal. Savage Hulk stalemated Thor and has actually been stated as being physically stronger than Thor. This same high Herald stats Hulk fought Wendigo and Bi-Beast and struggled and got stalemated in more than one occasion. That physically make them high Herald physical stats Savage Hulk equal who is equal to Thor who is equal to Superman. Well these same physical high Herald beingw was amped 1000 folds...now let's all use our brains...picture Superman or Thor being amped a thousand folds.Let's use Batman Prime favorite language. What if Doomsday was amped a thousand folds...what tier would that put him at? What if this apex Doomsday fought Superman and Superman stood there tanking all of his punches...how would you look at that ft. Now let's use 2 of those Doomsday along with adding another being who crushed Surfer with ease.
Common sense.
You know that savage Hulks strength varied? He wasn't constantly class 100 in every comic? He was even defeated by Rhino (mindcontrolled by the Leader but anyway).
Originally posted by bbrem123
funny how people wont accept hulk being this strong....makes me laugh
I accept him being strong, very strong. I just want to help Carver to calm down.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Galactus is empowered by the same biospheric energies bro. It's even stated in Tyrant's bio. So how is it that Galactus can't defeat the little gods but Tyrant can?
No, not in the same way. Tyrant gets his power from the biosphere of EVERY PLANET IN THE UNIVERSE. The very same biosphere the gods were born from. Galactus uses his machines to convert a suitable planet into energy for him to devour. He metabolizes that energy into the Power Cosmic. Tyrant proved that he can absorb even metabolized BSE when he fought Galactus.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Zeus was amped? May I quote the best poster on this Forum?He was hangin win Monarch that's enough.
Chris was Translevel and GA SBP was Skyfatherlevel.
Simple. Really ^^
What are you talking about? I said that Zeus was amped.
Superbly Prime never fought Monarch...Superman Prime did.
Chris is low trans...Wendigo and Bi-Beast with their amps are stronger than Chris.
What fts trans level being did Superman Prime heat
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
You know that savage Hulks strength varied? He wasn't constantly class 100 in every comic? He was even defeated by Rhino (mindcontrolled by the Leader but anyway).I accept him being strong, very strong. I just want to help Carver to calm down.
Well Wendigo fought a Hulk that was in a rage.
Hulk strength has never been 100 tons. A calm hulk held up 150 billion tons. The weakest Hulk destroyed a planetary size object. If Wendigo and Bi-Beast can physically stalemate a pissed Hulk without any outside amps, that put them physically in the high Herald tier...no questions asked. If Surfer got completely owned by Armageddon along with having assistance from Hulk, that outs him in the Elite tier range. Well all of these peeps were amped to insane levels when they faced Hulk and they were nothing but snails.
