Abortion dystopia #5823: Women deliberately conceiving and then aborting.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Not to mention not having a wiling father is bad for the kid *and* the father.

This is almost always true, but probably not 100% because humans are just so different that there's bound to be an outlier.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Abandoning the woman to bring up the child alone is worse.

There is no blanket statement you can make about it that captures every single child's development process. We can still make general statements like this:

1) A father and a mother; both willing, both kind, and both educated; are the best choice for raising a child.

A female raising a child, alone, is not as favorable as 1.

An unwilling father that does not wish to be part of the child's life is not as favorable as 1, as well. I do not believe there is any child development research that supports the unwilling father scenario. But there is research that supports the "both parents in the home" scenario as being the best option.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Hey I'm having fun too. I know you're going to continue to post. I'll be sitting over here dealing with hot women who know how to cook a meal every once in a while. If fat, short haircut women who run the show are your thing, then hey. What can I do? 😉

😆 😆 😆

DUDE....that's totally sexist. Surely you'll admit that. Also, if both the man and the woman work...then there should be no gender roles in the home: share the chores equally. Meaning, you both cook. 😄

On the kid part, if the man is irresponsible or a felon or something, obviously not, but then the question is "who chose that felon?"

Originally posted by dadudemon
This is almost always true, but probably not 100% because humans are just so different that there's bound to be an outlier.

There is no blanket statement you can make about it that captures every single child's development process. We can still make general statements like this:

1) A father and a mother; both willing, both kind, and both educated; are the best choice for raising a child.

A female raising a child, alone, is not as favorable as 1.

An unwilling father that does not wish to be part of the child's life is not as favorable as 1, as well. I do not believe there is any child development research that supports the unwilling father scenario. But there is research that supports the "both parents in the home" scenario as being the best option.

😆 😆 😆

DUDE....that's totally sexist. Surely you'll admit that. Also, if both the man and the woman work...then there should be no gender roles in the home: share the chores equally. Meaning, you both cook. 😄

Lol hey, it was some humor in that post. But not completely. Men make most of the money in most relationships and expected to "be a man" and pay most of the bills, and pay for dinner and pay for dates, do the asking out and picking up, do the proposing, and buy engagement rings, etc. Men are also hit hard in divorces financially. Men are expected to do the "heavy lifting" and outside work. You could argue that's sexist as well.

I believe relationships should be 50/50, but in America and other Westernized countries it isn't so. Women want men to have " their roles" (paying most of the bills, doing the heavy work, etc.) but they don't want to cook, clean etc.

Women wonder why marriages don't last anymore like they did generations ago. It was because generations ago men did certain things and women did certain things, it was better for the family. This is why women in other countries are better. They are feminine, keep themselves up better, put out, etc. They don't fat and cut their hair short like they do here.

You have to give and receive. And because in this country women *generally* don't want to do that, I believe people should live in their own place and have their own freedom. That way there is none of ths issue.

I have no problem cooking or cleaning (I enjoy it rather), but if a woman is not working or I'm paying most of the bills (like in most cases in relationships) she needs to do something in return. Like make me a hot meal and put out.

Blunt but true.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The definition of murder is abortion? As in killing a person isn't murder but aborting a fetus is?

That's a pretty sick sort of morality.

No what is sick that people kill a baby for there own selfish reasons and it is the same as murdering because you are taking another person's life away.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
No what is sick that people kill a baby for there own selfish reasons and it is the same as murdering because you are taking another person's life away.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

Lol hey, it was some humor in that post. But not completely. Men make most of the money in most relationships and expected to "be a man" and pay most of the bills, and pay for dinner and pay for dates, do the asking out and picking up, do the proposing, and buy engagement rings, etc. Men are also hit hard in divorces financially. Men are expected to do the "heavy lifting" and outside work. You could argue that's sexist as well.

That is sexist. Most feminists I know argue against that as well.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
On the kid part, if the man is irresponsible or a felon or something, obviously not, but then the question is "who chose that felon?"

Lol hey, it was some humor in that post. But not completely. Men make most of the money in most relationships and expected to "be a man" and pay most of the bills, and pay for dinner and pay for dates, do the asking out and picking up, do the proposing, and buy engagement rings, etc. Men are also hit hard in divorces financially. Men are expected to do the "heavy lifting" and outside work. You could argue that's sexist as well.

I believe relationships should be 50/50, but in America and other Westernized countries it isn't so. Women want men to have " their roles" (paying most of the bills, doing the heavy work, etc.) but they don't want to cook, clean etc.

Women wonder why marriages don't last anymore like they did generations ago. It was because generations ago men did certain things and women did certain things, it was better for the family. This is why women in other countries are better. They are feminine, keep themselves up better, put out, etc. They don't fat and cut their hair short like they do here.

You have to give and receive. And because in this country women *generally* don't want to do that, I believe people should live in their own place and have their own freedom. That way there is none of ths issue.

I have no problem cooking or cleaning (I enjoy it rather), but if a woman is not working or I'm paying most of the bills (like in most cases in relationships) she needs to do something in return. Like make me a hot meal and put out.

Blunt but true.

I live on Earth where most women want different rules for women and men. And yes most men pay most expenses in most relationships, that's a fact. Women who usually pay equal or more or usually unattractive or overweight. Sorry it's the truth. Women who are attractive can get men to pay for things and think all will do the same in the hopes of getting laid. Btw I don't pay for anything, they can pay for themselves. It's not even just feminists, the average woman is like this. Do you believe that most women pay equal on dates and relationships? Of course you heard these observations from men, they are the ones paying for everything. Not man chicks are going to outright tell you they want you to always pay. They expect it as they think men should pay for sex.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That is sexist. Most feminists I know argue against that as well.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I live on Earth where most women want different rules for women and men. And yes most men pay most expenses in most relationships, that's a fact. Women who usually pay equal or more or usually unattractive or overweight. Sorry it's the truth. Women who are attractive can get men to pay for things and think all will do the same in the hopes of getting laid. Btw I don't pay for anything, they can pay for themselves. It's not even just feminists, the average woman is like this. Do you believe that most women pay equal on dates and relationships?

The good ones do, most don't. I'm the original feminist, I want equal on both sides. I live in my place, you live in yours we pay our own expenses, etc. Equal, fair, and everything else. No headaches this way either, because if we're tired of each other we go back to our home.

I don't think most women pay equal. I do think that the vast majority of feminists pay equal. This is in line with their philosophy, my personal experience, and simple logic. So with no proof your "its the truth" will fall on deaf ears.

Originally posted by King Kandy
lol sorry, you don't get to just say "its a fact", clap your hands, and have people believe you. If you think "most" feminists want men to pay the bills, do you have a statistic on this?" I have never met a single feminist like that so obviously, your words have 0 value to me. So if you have something with a little more substance than your mere words, please offer it up.

I don't think most women pay equal. I do think that the vast majority of feminists pay equal. This is in line with their philosophy, my personal experience, and simple logic. So with no proof your "its the truth" will fall on deaf ears.

It can all it wants. Men do pay most on most relationships and dates which is true. Women who look good get things paid for, women who are ugly and fat do not. That's also true.

A statistic, how many women identify with themselves as feminist on paper? Women do and don't when it benefits them. Just about every woman says they want equal rights between men and women, and then they expect special rules when it benefits them. Do women come up to you and say "Hi, I'm a feminist"? lol

You sure you didn't assume they were feminist because they decided to pay. It may just be your assumption.

Oh and by the way, I was't referring to feminists on my first post. Bardock said feminist, and then I said "The good ones do and the others don't". In my post you responded to I was talking about women in general.

im going to assume you haven't studied gender relations in any serious manner?

Originally posted by inimalist
im going to assume you haven't studied gender relations in any serious manner?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It can all it wants. Men do pay most on most relationships and dates which is true. Women who look good get things paid for, women who are ugly and fat do not. That's also true.

A statistic, how many women identify with themselves as feminist on paper? Women do and don't when it benefits them. Just about every woman says they want equal rights between men and women, and then they expect special rules when it benefits them. Do women come up to you and say "Hi, I'm a feminist"? lol

You sure you didn't assume they were feminist because they decided to pay. It may just be your assumption.

Oh and by the way, I didn't say "feminist" on my first post. Bardock said feminist, and then I said "The good ones do and the others" don't. In my post you responded to I was talking about women in general.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Or maybe, you know, I actually like to talk to women and learn their philosophies when I date them. While it seems like you just blindly make assumptions about every woman you meet (blind is right; if you had proof, you'd have posted it by now).

And no, I'm not talking about "every woman I meet" I'm talking about women in general expecting men to pay for the majority of things, which is true. They then don't want to do anything in return, which is also true in this country. Women in this generation don't even cook regularly if at all. You're assuming the ones you do are feminist. Women like that are usually unattractive and have to pay for their own things.

Women who are attractive especially get things paid for, because they can. That's also a fact. Hot chicks get trips paid for, clothes paid for, rent paid for, etc. Ugly and fat women have to pay their own way because men definitely won't.

Amusing though the "let's see how much more of a sexist idiot C-Master can make himself look" game is, it's dominated the thread too much now. Start up a different one if you want that area talked of in more detail, thanks.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Sure have, a lifetime study. Women other countries that aren't westernized are like the women were here about 50 years ago. Here they are quite different to what they used to be.

ya, for some reason, you dont seem to have the same credibility as the people who have actually spent their lives studying gender issues

So men should pay for most things or not?

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Amusing though the "let's see how much more of a sexist idiot C-Master can make himself look" game is, it's dominated the thread too much now. Start up a different one if you want that area talked of in more detail, thanks.

I do agree this is off topic though.

Well then you should have known better than to make that post; don't feel the need to reply like that again in future. Thankyou.

I was responding to another post aimed, but no matter I made a separate thread for the guys. 😉

I don't care what you thought you were doing- don't keep making off-topic posts after the mod calls time.

You've already demonstrated yourself as an extremely unpleasant person; if you feel the need to show yourself as a troublesome poster also you will be treated as such.

The matter ends there.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
I don't care what you thought you were doing- don't keep making off-topic posts after the mod calls time.

You've already demonstrated yourself as an extremely unpleasant person; if you feel the need to show yourself as a troublesome poster also you will be treated as such.

The matter ends there.

I'm easy to get along with. I'm straightforward which some don't like, but I haven't insulted anybody like I've have had insults thrown at me. Sorry if anybody felt I was attacking them personally, but it wasn't the case. Nothing serious, discussions get carried away sometimes, but it shouldn't be anything personal. Either way on topic I still feel men and women should have equal rights all around.