Captain America vs. Iron Fist

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Not true for Cap. Civil War he took blows from Iron Man as well, and other times against Namor and other super strong opponents. Plus Cap 's amor is highly durable than anything Danny wears. But Steve will likely block those kinds of attacks rather than be hit by them. But I wouldn't say it's not his norm to withstand them.

So your really saying that no non class 100 can drop him?

Danny hits way harder than people that have hurt cap and beaten him before.

I'm positive a guy who can drop Luke Cage, break thunderballs wrecking ball, destroy temples and helicarriers with one blow, make Hiroim scream in pain, break apart oncoming trains, etc. Can drop cap. Unless he has some uber new armor I don't know about.

I get u wanting to take his high showing but saying that he can easily withstand Danny's best inspire o all he's done is a bit much.

Originally posted by jalek moye
So your really saying that no non class 100 can drop him?

Danny hits way harder than people that have hurt cap and beaten him before.

I'm positive a guy who can drop Luke Cage, break thunderballs wrecking ball, destroy temples and helicarriers with one blow, make Hiroim scream in pain, break apart oncoming trains, etc. Can drop cap. Unless he has some uber new armor I don't know about.

I get u wanting to take his high showing but saying that he can easily withstand Danny's best inspire o all he's done is a bit much.

No. What I'm saying is that Cap can take blows from class 100 opponents... Cap has been put down before, but he can take more than Danny could imo. And for the recored, yes, Cap can take IF's best and most powerful via his shield. The Iron Fist can't break that Shield my friend..

Originally posted by Marvelknight
No. What I'm saying is that he can take blows from them. Cap has been put down before. But he can take more than Danny could imo. And for the recored, yes, Cap can take IF's best and most powerful via his shield.

As for damage soak on average Steve does take worse beating but Iron fist can take just as much and more depending on how his chi is bein used. Either way I can't see Steve knocking out someone just as skilled, just as fast, and that only needs a couple of strikes if he's not going all out. When Steve will take way more blows to do the same.

Any of Danny's strikes can be superhuman not just a punch, Steve will fight hard and well but he will not be scoring a dozen blows for every miss Danny has.

Durability/healing is about equal.

They both have ranged attacks.

Danny is stronger, slightly faster.

Skill wise they are about equal.

What gives Danny the win is his destructive capabilities.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Those feats are good. But none of them could pull off what Steve did in Secret Avengers issue 10 and survive... Cap recently took an upercut from an enraged Namor and stood up seconds afterward. Cap also tanked a direct blast to the face from Zola in the Invaders Now arch...

In Captain America #2 Cap recently jumped out of plane from close to 200 ft and crash landed on a vehicle standing.

Damage soak/durability go to Steve.

Originally posted by Mindset
Durability/healing is about equal.

They both have ranged attacks.

Danny is stronger, slightly faster.

Skill wise they are about equal.

What gives Danny the win is his destructive capabilities.

Pretty much

Originally posted by Daredevil1
In Captain America #2 Cap recently jumped out of plane from close to 200 ft and crash landed on a vehicle standing.

Damage soak/durability go to Steve.

Nice, I forgot to mention that. Badass moment there. Damage soak is in favor of Steve. But his feat in Secret Avengers #10 made what he did in Captain America #2 look like nothing though.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Well yeah he can block but he's going to get and Danny has the power to one shot him at the very most 2-3 if he's non playing around.

As for damage soak on average Steve does take worse beating but Iron fist can take just as much and more depending on how his chi is bein used. Either way I can't see Steve knocking out someone just as skilled, just as fast, and that only needs a couple of strikes if he's not going all out. When Steve will take way more blows to do the same.

Any of Danny's strikes can be superhuman not just a punch, Steve will fight hard and well but he will not be scoring a dozen blows for every miss Danny has.

Cap has the skill and strength to put down Danny with few a blows as well and has also other beaten super-powerful foes physically with his shield and fist alone.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Cap has the skill and strength to put down Danny with few blows as well and has also other beaten super-powerful foes physically with his shield and fist alone.

Yet when he fights people around his level it takes more Han a couple of blows to drop them. Steve punching Danny out in a dint would take a while, yes the shield would work faster but no anywhere near as much damage as a blow from Danny would to Steve unless it's in he throat or something obviously.

Steve may have taken down superhumans with his fists before but you and I both know that Danny hits harder than Steve so let's not go to that argument. I've been enjoying it so far.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Nice, I forgot to mention that. Badass moment there. Damage soak is in favor of Steve. But his feat in Secret Avengers #10 made what he did in Captain America #2 look like nothing though.

Yeah that was definitely impressive.

Durability to Steve for sure. Speed its close could go either way IMO.

Natural strength Steve.

Stamina Steve.

Punching power sans IF technique probably Steve. But Danny has some good feats as well.

IF tech punch. No contest Danny wins that one. But the shield is just a great counter measure for that.

Cap 6/10

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Yeah that was definitely impressive.

Durability to Steve for sure. Speed its close could go either way IMO.

Natural strength Steve.

Stamina Steve.

Punching power sans IF technique probably Steve. But Danny has some good feats as well.

IF tech punch. No contest Danny wins that one. But the shield is just a great counter measure for that.

Cap 6/10

Because Danny still has superhuman strength without he IF blow due to chi amping

Originally posted by jalek moye
Yet when he fights people around his level it takes more Han a couple of blows to drop them. Steve punching Danny out in a dint would take a while, yes the shield would work faster but no anywhere near as much damage as a blow from Danny would to Steve unless it's in he throat or something obviously.

Steve may have taken down superhumans with his fists before but you and I both know that Danny hits harder than Steve so let's not go to that argument. I've been enjoying it so far.

Durability:http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c11tu4.jpg
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Originally posted by jalek moye
Do you mean sans chi or just San IF

Because Danny still has superhuman strength without he IF blow due to chi amping

I'm talking on average strength feats Cap wins. Punching power I could lean towards Danny.

Actually it was Danny himself who was amazed by Cap's strength and speed at one time.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
I'm talking on average strength feats Cap wins. Punching power I could lean towards Danny.

Actually it was Danny himself who was amazed by Cap's strength and speed at one time.

And like i said Danny has changed a lot since back in the day.

IF, it's close but he pulls out the majority wins. IMHO, he's faster, more skilled, and he can self heal.

Durability and strength are in Cap's favor though.

Fist wins.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Stamina prolly, Damage soak, i'd give it to Danny personally but I can see why you'd say that. Skill that's a wash and too hard to prove either way with both of them going through so many changes but that feat you said is definitely not better than these.

And this, of course:

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Durability:http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=c11tu4.jpg
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Danny has some decent ones too, although msot of his feats that are defensive are dodging and energy related. O guys like Sabertooth, wrecking crew etc. So while not as good blunt ones as the Namor stuff shows he's capable of way more than a few hits.

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Originally posted by zopzop
IF, it's close but he pulls out the majority wins. IMHO, he's faster, more skilled, and he can self heal.

His self healing isn't instant and requires concentration. He won't have that luxury in a fight unless that has changed like instant healing or something.

the shield will absorb the iron fist..

id say Cap 6-7/10

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
the shield will absorb the iron fist..

id say Cap 6-7/10

And then Danny kicks him in the shin 😛