Captain America vs. Iron Fist

Originally posted by zopzop
IF, it's close but he pulls out the majority wins. IMHO, he's faster, more skilled, and he can self heal.

Durability and strength are in Cap's favor though.

Cap also heals fast as noted in Secret Avenger #9. Steve has also shown a high level of control of metabolism. It could argued that Danny is slightly faster.

But make note that Steve is fast enough to even surprise Spidy. Peter even made note of the quickness of Cap's movements:http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spc1sy3.jpg

Danny may know more fighting styles than Cap. But what Steve knows, he uses with supreme efficiency. Also he's more strategically sound with years of combat experience over Danny.

Cap is physically capable of defeating foes physically superior to him:http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capownskreelg4.jpg

Also Steve is more arial than IF. And if the helicarrier does crash, or is destroyed. Cap will likely be the one to walk away from the battle less effected:http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/9044/ca0310oy5.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3605/ca0311ge4.jpg

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Cap also heals fast as noted in Secret Avenger #9. Steve has also shown a high level of control of metabolism. It could argued that Danny is slightly faster.

But make note that Steve is fast enough to even surprise Spidy. Peter even made note of the quickness of Cap's movements:http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spc1sy3.jpg

Danny may know more fighting styles than Cap. But what Steve knows, he uses with supreme efficiency. Also he's more strategically sound with years of combat experience over Danny.

Cap is physically capable of defeating foes physically superior to him:http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capownskreelg4.jpg

Also Steve is more arial than IF. And if the helicarrier does crash, or is destroyed. Cap will likely be the one to walk away from the battle less effected:http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/9044/ca0310oy5.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3605/ca0311ge4.jpg

Honestly Captain America most likely has the same amount for experience,. He's only like 40 after all and Danny is mid 30s. Danny started training at 10 Steve was like 18 ish?

The whole fighting People stronger is basically Danny's powerset so that's pretty moot.

Like I said skill is basically equal i wouldn't put either over the other in that area.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Honestly Captain America most likely has the same amount for experience,. He's only like 40 after all and Danny is mid 30s. Danny started training at 10 Steve was like 18 ish?

The whole fighting People stronger is basically Danny's powerset so that's pretty moot.

Like I said skill is basically equal i wouldn't put either over the other in that area.

Lmfao Cap is nearly 70 years old 😆

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Lmfao Cap is nearly 70 years old 😆

i'm not counting the years frozen since he was frozen for like 50 years and it froze his body. Biologically I'm sure he's only like 40-50

Years still go and time waits for no one. Even if frozen, he's still between 68-71 years olds. I'm pretty sure that his body wouldn't have aged in appearance regardless because of the Super Soldier Serum.

Danny has good durability feats but a lot of streets like Batman, Daredevil have feats of taken hits from super strong bricks.

But even those characters are not portrayed to having feats like these.

Cap's durability is just on another level in my humble opinion.

200 ft fall no problem.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1889/captainamerica002durabi.jpg
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/2203/captainamerica00218.jpg

High altitude fall you can even see mountains, plus the enhanced
speed of Warmichne sending him down as a batter ram. Yikes.(but even that is irrelevant if the IF tech lands.) But that's were Steve speed, agility, and shield factor in.)

Well still half of those years wouldn't count for his experience though. He started training at around 18 got frozen at what 23 ish? Stayed frozen for around 50 years. and has currently been active around 20. Pretty much the same as Danny since those 50 years didn't add to his experience at all.

he's technically old but has only been active for about the amount of years as guys like Iron Man.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Honestly Captain America most likely has the same amount for experience,.

He should have more experience due to his trapped time loop battles with Korvac resetting time over and over again. IIRC Steve gained like 100-300 years of fighting.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
He should have more experience due to his trapped time loop battles with Korvac resetting time over and over again. IIRC Steve gained like 100-300 years of fighting.

ahh didn't know about that, I was just talking about his years active. If that's the case then my bad.

Originally posted by jalek moye
ahh didn't know about that, I was just talking about his years active. If that's the case then my bad.

If it makes you feel better I actually view Danny a hair more skilled but not by much. A lot of people would disagree with me on that note though.

Fighting experience go to Cap because much of his early life was filled with war and combat: from one mission to the next, leading the charge. Even after his return it's only got more increasingly harder with Hydra and new foes battling alongside the Avengers and other superhero teams.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Fighting experience go to Cap because much of his early life was filled with war and combat: from one mission to the next, leading the charge. Even after his return it's only got more increasingly harder with Hydra and new foes battling alongside the Avengers and other superhero teams.

I was basing it on your years comment mostly, and war is different than one on combat anyway. but yeah Daredevil showed I was wrong about the years thing anyway.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
If it makes you feel better I actually view Danny a hair more skilled but not by much. A lot of people would disagree with me on that note though.

Imo once you get up to that level its mostly a wash when it comes to whose more skilled.

Originally posted by jalek moye
I was basing it on your years comment mostly, and war is different than one on combat anyway. but yeah Daredevil showed I was wrong about the years thing anyway.

Considering Cap's methods of combat, war really wouldn't be no different at all really for Cap, only you're fighting more opponents at once. One still has to engage inclose and be skilled at doing so when you're a soldier. And Cap mostly uses his shield along with his fighting skills tailored to his incredible power, speed and agility instead of fire arms.

@Marvelknight

Oh trust me, I respect Cap, he's done some crazy things on panel and held his own vs beings you'd think would stomp him. Also notice I never said it would be easy or a stomp in favor of IF. I just think it'd be a good close fight with IF taking the slight majority in wins.

Originally posted by zopzop
@Marvelknight

Oh trust me, I respect Cap, he's done some crazy things on panel and held his own vs beings you'd think would stomp him. Also notice I never said it would be easy or a stomp in favor of IF. I just think it'd be a good close fight with IF taking the slight majority in wins.

Nothing wrong with that.. Whoever wins would only get the slight majority. I only gave Steve 6-10 because I understand how great IF is. I just feel Steve is more strategically sound with more will to win. He's always ready for a fight and don't play games with his opponents.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Considering Cap's methods of combat, war really wouldn't be no different at all really for Cap, only you're fighting more opponents at once. One still has to engage inclose and be skilled at doing so when you're a soldier. And Cap mostly uses his shield along with his fighting skills tailored to his incredible power, speed and agility instead of fire arms.

And Danny has over two decades of one on one fighting not counting the time loop they'd be about the same given their fighting styles.

Some feats that aren't the "traditional" iron fist punch

Wide range Iron fist attack

the attack gets absorbed but shows just how large he can make a chi attack if he wants to.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/IronFist-021-022.jpg

Long range chop attack i showed earlier

Turns objects into chi bullets

The floor destroying shockwave from him and Davos' kicks.

short range projectile

Draws blood from and hurts Luke cage with non Iron Fist strikes (impressive given Luke's post 2000 history)

While i don't think it will be a slight majority I think people mistake that with me saying that he stomps Steve which I'm not. just that he wins a high majority with Steve making him work for every one of them.

Cap is fast and agile enough to either dodge or block all of those attacks with his shield. Cap can leap 15-20 ft in the air away from the shockwave, throwing his shield in the process.

jalek moye is crazy if he thinks Danny takes it every time.
Cap takes the MAJORITY 7/10

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Cap is fast and agile enough to either dodge or block all of those attacks with his shield. Cap can leap 15-20 ft in the air away from the shockwave, throwing his shield in the process.