Captain America vs. Iron Fist

Started by jalek moye27 pages
Originally posted by BattleMage
jalek moye is crazy if he thinks Danny takes it every time.
Cap takes the MAJORITY 7/10

How is thinking Danny takes almost every time in a hard fight crazy? It's not saying he stomps him just i see in 10 fights Danny taking 9 or all of them even though he has to really work for it. I really think you guys think i mean he just slaps him down based on your reactions.

I personally don't think close fights always end in near splits *shrug*

Originally posted by jalek moye
Cap isn't agile enough to dodge the close range ones for ever. Just like I'm not saying Danny can dodge every single one of Steve's forever. Would he dodge the shield throw? Yeah he would all the up close attacks though? Nope and Neither would Steve his.

Why not? His muscles don't build up fatigue toxins, granting him uncanny stamina. And Steve is a master shield fighter. Certainly is capable of blocking all of not most of IF's attacks inclose. Steve did so in Avenger Prime (no shield) against a house full of armed elf warriors (at least 20 or more).

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Why not? His muscles don't build up fatigue toxins, granting him uncanny stamina.

Because they are similar in speed and reflexes. do you also think that Steve can dodge every single attack by Wolverine or elektra forever? I'm not talking stamina i'm talking how at least to me it seems you are implying he will simply never get hit. In order to never get hit by a close range attack he'd have to be significantly above Iron Fist in speed, reflexes or skill. All of which are near equal.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Because they are similar in speed and reflexes. do you also think that Steve can dodge every single attack by Wolverine or elektra forever? I'm not talking stamina i'm talking how at least to me it seems you are implying he will simply never get hit. In order to never get hit by a close range attack he'd have to be [b]significantly above Iron Fist in speed, reflexes or skill. All of which are near equal. [/B]

Spider-Man's reflexes and agility are superior to Danny's, and even he has trouble getting through Cap's guard.

Wait your seriously arguing that Danny can never hit him? I mean Danny's gotten through tougher stuff as well and gotten through spideys also. Him and Captain have similar reflex feats although it would be fun to compare those feats too.

I'm seriously confused though you say it's a close fight but right here you are saying that Danny can never hit Steve. Not trolling or anything I'm seriously confused.

Originally posted by jalek moye
How is thinking Danny takes almost every time in a hard fight crazy? It's not saying he stomps him just i see in 10 fights Danny taking 9 or all of them even though he has to really work for it. I really think you guys think i mean he just slaps him down based on your reactions.

I personally don't think close fights always end in near splits *shrug*

OK

Originally posted by jalek moye
Wait your seriously arguing that Danny can never hit him? I mean Danny's gotten through tougher stuff as well and gotten through spideys also. Him and Captain have similar reflex feats although it would be fun to compare those feats too.

I'm seriously confused though you say it's a close fight but right here you are saying that Danny can never hit Steve. Not trolling or anything I'm seriously confused.


No, just that he'd have a hard time landing any real hard hit in on Cap. In their fight Steve rolled with his punch and I already have IF's impression of Cap then. IF has gotten better since. But Cap has't been sitting on his ass since then either, understand?

yeah I agreed that it would take a while I just think that he would do it. i think Cap will have an equally hard time getting him. Which is why i think it's close fight we just differ on the winner.

Originally posted by jalek moye
yeah I agreed that it would take a while I just think that he would do it. i think Cap will have an equally hard time getting him. Which is why i think it's close fight we just differ on the winner.

That's all it is.. I just like to debate. Would love to see them fight again real soon..

Me too to both, but I doubt it will happen anytime soon. If it does it will be a brief spar or non fight. i miss the days of epic long fights.

Starting distance. Iron Fist proved he is able to dodge Steve's shield. In this environment it'd be even easier. Can Rogers evade Danny's ground pounds? It is possible (not if IF keeps doing that though), but jumping away is going to leave him open.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Starting distance. Iron Fist proved he is able to dodge Steve's shield. In this environment it'd be even easier. Can Rogers evade Danny's ground pounds? It is possible (not if IF keeps doing that though), but jumping away is going to leave him open.

If I was Cap, I would not throw my shield at IF at all. I'd want that thing with me at all times.

Cap wins
6/10

Shield > Chi

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Starting distance. Iron Fist proved he is able to dodge Steve's shield. In this environment it'd be even easier. Can Rogers evade Danny's ground pounds? It is possible (not if IF keeps doing that though), but jumping away is going to leave him open.

Hmmm. Steve could leap to a higher vantage point or reposition the shield underneath him while in mid air to absorb the shockwave when landing.

Originally posted by zopzop
If I was Cap, I would not throw my shield at IF at all. I'd want that thing with me at all times.

That'd be the most wise thing to do, yes. Unless he would want to distract Danny for a second with the throw so he could get a free punch.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Hmmm. Steve could leap to a higher vantage point or reposition the shield underneath him while in mid air to absorb the shockwave when landing.

While I agree, I gotta ask... how often do the comic characters avoid that type of attack? Happens in video games all the time, but rarely in comics.

Still, this is a forum fight, so those are possible options for Cap 👆

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
While I agree, I gotta ask... how often do the comic characters avoid that type of attack? Happens in video games all the time, but rarely in comics.

Still, this is a forum fight, so those are possible options for Cap 👆

That's a good question. The nature of that attack, make me believe that most problely wouldn't avoid it or simply don't have the means to guard against it... Good thing Cap has that shield here.

Danny for the majority.

I agree with Jalek.

Cap is an impressive street level, but there's some street characters he simply can't match, imo.

Or put another way, Danny can fight on an even level against Spidey without PIS. Cap, not so much.

Steve faced him before.. So it can't be farfetched for him to hold his own and beat IF physically. Cap has the feats to validate this. Steve has even beaten members of the Wrecking Crew, same as Danny has.