idk if this has been posted yet: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14721839
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The huge sacks.
Most supermarkets over here just don't sell them, as rice isn't seen as a staple by most people. For a sack of rice you have to go to a speciality store, usually an asian market, and they can jack up the price as much as they want.
it becomes more practical and affordable to buy the 12 pack of uncle ben's rice packets than it does the sack.
It might be. You'll have to check that out and do a unit cost analysis on it. 🙂
Originally posted by Omega VisionNow I don't know the exact laws in the UK. But do they consider experience and education, and hours worked? Because women generally work a lot less hours, call out more, and take off to have kids.
idk if this has been posted yet: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14721839
They put up similar things here, but they don't include those important facts. Women in America actually make more per hour in many professions since they get paid the same and actually work less hours. In general.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It might be. You'll have to check that out and do a unit cost analysis on it. 🙂Now I don't know the exact laws in the UK. But do they consider experience and education, and hours worked? Because women generallywork a lot less hours, call out more, and take off to have kids.
They put up similar things here, but they don't include those important facts. Women in America actually make more per hour in many professions since they get paid the same and actually work less hours. In general.
Or I could just assume that i'm right and be done with it. mmm
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It might be. You'll have to check that out and do a unit cost analysis on it. 🙂Now I don't know the exact laws in the UK. But do they consider experience and education, and hours worked? Because women generally work a lot less hours, call out more, and take off to have kids.
They put up similar things here, but they don't include those important facts. Women in America actually make more per hour in many professions since they get paid the same and actually work less hours. In general.
In general. 😛
Another thing we should fight for. 😈
Originally posted by -Pr-Bah.
Or I could just assume that i'm right and be done with it. mmm
Originally posted by Omega VisionIt's ok bud.
As I recall from high school sociology class (lol I know) women and men are supposed to earn about equal but men get more and better raises and promotions.In general. 😛
I think it's all in the choices men and women make. Men are more career oriented and women are more family oriented it's nature. Women don't "have" to work, and not for life so they choose jobs that are safer, and more "fulfilling" but pay less. Like a school teacher.
Men take jobs that are dangerous that pay more. Like a construction worker.
Even when it's the same "job" they still leave out important facts.
Say male doctors earning more than female doctors.
Men are more likely to be surgeons, which pay more.
If men and women are surgeons, men are more likely to own a practice.
If they both own their own practice, men are more likely to own one because they want to earn more money, women generally own their own business so they can have more flexibility with their kids and family.
This is why women like real estate so much. They don't have to work straight hours back to back, they can adjust them.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Another thing we should fight for. 😈Bah.
It's ok bud.
I think it's all in the choices men and women make. Men are more career oriented and women are more family oriented it's nature. Women don't "have" to work, and not for life so they choose jobs that are safer, and more "fulfilling" but pay less. Like a school teacher.
Men take jobs that are dangerous that pay more. Like a construction worker.
Even when it's the same "job" they still leave out important facts.
Say male doctors earning more than female doctors.
Men are more likely to be surgeons, which pay more.
If men and women are surgeons, men are more likely to own a practice.
If they both own their own practice, men are more likely to own one because they want to earn more money, women generally own their own business so they can have more flexibility with their kids and family.
This is why women like real estate so much. They don't have to work straight hours back to back, they can adjust them.
I'm sure there's more to it than that, but to ignore the fact that men control the vast majority of upper management in virtually all industries as a factor in this is just naive at best and disingenuous at worst.
Originally posted by Omega VisionWell more women work than men, and more women go to school than men. There are many more women getting these jobs, and if a woman works like a man does, and doesn't take time off constantly, she'll get the same things men get. Like Oprah did.
I think a lot of it is that men are in charge and are going to favor men. Ergo the man gets the pay raise and the promotion.I'm sure there's more to it than that, but to ignore the fact that men control the vast majority of upper management in virtually all industries as a factor in this is just naive at best and disingenuous at worst.
You do realize that there are women who are in charge who don't like to hire women because they are likely to drop out and have kids. They have done studies on this and men are more likely to hire based on the person and women who screen are more likely to hire based on looks.
When women call out of work more often (which is twice as often in the US) and drop out and expect paid leave (which is unfair, because we as consumers have to pay for that) they can't expect to get high end jobs. Who would want to take the risk? Now there are women who are career driven and do want to work until they drop dead 40 years straight, but most simply don't, and that's true. Many work and then have kids and cut back on hours and work part time. That's a choice they make. Women who want to own companies and be presidents are in the minority. Even the ones who are in power said themselves they just don't care about it much.
It's hard to be a parent and a career person, one or the other suffers. Women are more inclined to make family decisions over career decisions, because that's where their priorities (and expectations) are.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Bah.
TBH, i think there's one thing that I should point to (without coming across as derogatory): You're not someone who is indicative of the majority. You have a decent living, you have a car, you don't have any kids or attachments, so for you, it might be cheaper to do the things that you talk about.
Now, I'm not saying you didn't work hard to get where you are and all that, so please don't take it that way.
Then you have the woman with three kids. She doesn't drive because she can't afford a car. Her husband got laid off because of the global recession, so they're splitting welfare cheques to try and make ends meet.
She can go to the other end of town, paying bus fare for her and her kids, listening to them screaming and wailing and fighting the entire time, just to get to a store that might sell that sack of food she wants, when the price could be jacked up. she has to buy the kids candy to keep them quiet so she can get a bit of peace for herself, but all it does is make things worse.
Then you have the supermarket that's just down the road. The safeway or whatever. She can nip down and get enough affordable food to feed her family and save bus fare and kid-quietening stuff.
So even if we go by your pov and say it's cheaper to buy the sack, is it really worth it for that family, or the millions of others in that situation?
I dunno, maybe its just me that thinks this way.
Originally posted by -Pr-Well I myself had my own challenges. I have a business to run and it was time consuming for me, especially when I was on the road 6 days a week or 7 days a week, 10-12 hours a day, so I ate out more often. I had my own issues at the time, until I made a conscious decision. I went from eating out once a week, to not at all.
TBH, i think there's one thing that I should point to (without coming across as derogatory): You're not someone who is indicative of the majority. You have a decent living, you have a car, you don't have any kids or attachments, so for you, it might be cheaper to do the things that you talk about.Now, I'm not saying you didn't work hard to get where you are and all that, so please don't take it that way.
Then you have the woman with three kids. She doesn't drive because she can't afford a car. Her husband got laid off because of the global recession, so they're splitting welfare cheques to try and make ends meet.
She can go to the other end of town, paying bus fare for her and her kids, listening to them screaming and wailing and fighting the entire time, just to get to a store that might sell that sack of food she wants, when the price could be jacked up. she has to buy the kids candy to keep them quiet so she can get a bit of peace for herself, but all it does is make things worse.
Then you have the supermarket that's just down the road. The safeway or whatever. She can nip down and get enough affordable food to feed her family and save bus fare and kid-quietening stuff.
So even if we go by your pov and say it's cheaper to buy the sack, is it really worth it for that family, or the millions of others in that situation?
I dunno, maybe its just me that thinks this way.
It used to be the other way, younger people ate out more before they were married, and then they cooked more. Here, at least, we eat out much more and eat more junk food. If a parent can't take the time to feed their kids properly, it may be better they wait until they are able to before kids. Nutrition is important. We have a huge obesity problem here. People aren't nearly as fat there, so it isn't as big as a problem.
People who eat unhealthy are usually in single parent homes where there is no parent around so they eat the quickest food avialble to them. I know many people who have no parents at home most of the time and do this. Of course many of these parents in this country are lazy and eat McDonadl's 3 times a day, which is why they're so fat. They don't want to take the time to cook healthily and it is bad for the kids and for them. Once people get into the habit of eating correctly they'll do it more often.
Supermarkets have cheap foods though, much cheaper than packaged meals (like lunchables) or eating out. They don't have to go to a warehouse store or anything, but foods in bulk tend to be cheapest which is why I recommended it. But you do have to look at cost, and if it costs more you have to look at that.
Or you could just buy food in bulk. It's what families in extremely poor countries do. Buy bulks of food and eat it slowly. They have huge families and no cars lol.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well I myself had my own challenges. I have a business to run and it was time consuming for me, especially when I was on the road 6 days a week or 7 days a week, 10-12 hours a day, so I ate out more often. I had my own issues at the time, until I made a conscious decisions.[b/
I know all this, hence the first part of my post. 😛
It used to be the other way, younger people ate out more before they were married, and then they cooked more. Here, at least, we eat out much more and eat more junk food. If a parent can't take the time to feed their kids properly, it may be better they wait until they are able to before kids. Nutrition is important. We have a huge obesity problem here. People aren't nearly as fat there, so it isn't as big as a problem.[/b]
you're describing a world that for many simply doesn't exist.
People who eat unhealthy are usually in single parent homes where there is no parent around so they eat the quickest food avialble to them. I know many people who have no parents at home most of the time and do this. Of course many of these parents in this country are lazy and eat McDonadl's 3 times a day, which is why they're so fat. They don't want to take the time to cook healthily and it is bad for the kids and for them. Once people get into the habit of eating correctly they'll do it more often.
I honestly think that's a bit of an exaggeration. Or maybe America really is like that, I don't know.
Supermarkets have cheap foods though, much cheaper than packaged meals (like lunchables) or eating out.
That's what I was talking about; again, in America, it might be as you're putting it.
Or you could just buy food in bulk. It's what families in extremely poor countries do. Buy bulks of food and eat it slowly. They have huge families and no cars lol.
i think that's more a neccessity or a limitation than a conscious choice.
Originally posted by King Kandy
That's why I don't think gender roles will be eliminated unless poverty is as well.
This situation is not about poverty, lol. Did not see Yoko trying to get attention from the local trash collector.
People close to John knew he was a mess. But they still loved him anyway. The ulitimate lovable rogue, not nearly the nice guy people think that he was. He could be nice one minute and the next mean.
He enjoyed taking the mickey out of people. Yet, had a compassionate side too.
His home life was upside down, and if not for his aunt, McCartney and Epstein, he does not become the star he did.
Yoko on the other hand, was a scion until WW2 started, she had a priviliged life and was just as much as a mess as John. The truly deserved each other.
Originally posted by YankeeWhalerOf course she wasn't. Women and men get the best they can get. That's why you generally see good looking successful men with hot women.
This situation is not about poverty, lol. Did not see Yoko trying to get attention from the local trash collector.People close to John knew he was a mess. But they still loved him anyway. The ulitimate lovable rogue, not nearly the nice guy people think that he was. He could be nice one minute and the next mean.
He enjoyed taking the mickey out of people. Yet, had a compassionate side too.
His home life was upside down, and if not for his aunt, McCartney and Epstein, he does not become the star he did.
Yoko on the other hand, was a scion until WW2 started, she had a priviliged life and was just as much as a mess as John. The truly deserved each other.
Originally posted by -Pr-Right but I had a time where I ate out more because I was always gone. People who are unmarried and/or younger generally don't cook as much. Beer, hotdogs, pizza, you know the drill.
I know all this, hence the first part of my post. 😛you're describing a world that for many simply doesn't exist.
I honestly think that's a bit of an exaggeration. Or maybe America really is like that, I don't know.
That's what I was talking about; again, in America, it might be as you're putting it.
i think that's more a neccessity or a limitation than a conscious choice.
Nutrition?
We're FAT over here, believe me.
Well supermarkets are cheap. We have the Wal-Marts and whatnot. The cheapest places are big warehouse stores like same and costco. You guys have Aldi's there? They're cheap too... They buy food under their own brand which is cheaper than what you pay for "named food". Because places like Aldi's and Krogers don't pay advertising costs that "named brands" pay.
It's better for them though. 🙂 Less heart disease and all the other problems caused by obesity.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well more women work than men, and more women go to school than men. There are many more women getting these jobs, and if a woman works like a man does, and doesn't take time off constantly, she'll get the same things men get. Like Oprah did.You do realize that there are women who are in charge who don't like to hire women because they are likely to drop out and have kids. They have done studies on this and men are more likely to hire based on the person and women who screen are more likely to hire based on looks.
When women call out of work more often (which is twice as often in the US) and drop out and expect paid leave (which is unfair, because we as consumers have to pay for that) they can't expect to get high end jobs. Who would want to take the risk? Now there are women who are career driven and do want to work until they drop dead 40 years straight, but most simply don't, and that's true. Many work and then have kids and cut back on hours and work part time. That's a choice they make. Women who want to own companies and be presidents are in the minority. Even the ones who are in power said themselves they just don't care about it much.
It's hard to be a parent and a career person, one or the other suffers. Women are more inclined to make family decisions over career decisions, because that's where their priorities (and expectations) are.
Not so sure about that, I feel it's more of a old girls network, similar in the past to the old boys network. Would love to see the EEOC make companies hire 50% men in the workforce in the call centers and corporations. From what I have seen, men are the minority. It will only be a matter of time before we see landmark lawsuits and Orgs for men that challenge the cw that it is a mans world.
Originally posted by YankeeWhalerWell, you have that problem too lol. Laws can only go so far, people will get what they deserve sooner or later. Those who can't carry their weight will be let go.
Not so sure about that, I feel it's more of a old girls network, similar in the past to the old boys network. Would love to see the EEOC make companies hire 50% men in the workforce in the call centers and corporations. From what I have seen, men are the minority. It will only be a matter of time before we see landmark lawsuits and Orgs for men that challenge the cw that it is a mans world.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Of course she wasn't. Women and men get the best they can get. That's why you generally see good looking successful men with hot women.Right but I had a time where I ate out more because I was always gone. People who are unmarried and/or younger generally don't cook as much. Beer, hotdogs, pizza, you know the drill.
Nutrition?
We're FAT over here, believe me.
Well supermarkets are cheap. We have the Wal-Marts and whatnot. The cheapest places are big warehouse stores like same and costco. You guys have Aldi's there? They're cheap too... They buy food under their own brand which is cheaper than what you pay for "named food". Because places like Aldi's and Krogers don't pay advertising costs that "named brands" pay.
It's better for them though. 🙂 Less heart disease and all the other problems caused by obesity.
Aye.
Practicality plus affordability.
There are fat people in Ireland too, but yeah, it doesn't compare to what you guys have, tbh.
And those are the foods i'm talking about. In Aldi over here it's a lot cheaper to buy their brand pre-made meals/foods than it is to buy the sack of potatoes and a bunch of vegetables. Then there are things like the food keeping and whatnot, especially when you have a big family, unless you wantg to eat the same thing over and over. Then there's the time constraints.
Maybe, but i'd think hunger, oppression and poverty are pretty sucky too 😛
Upper management is changing though, slowly but it is happening.
The problem I see though relates more to academia credentials, you darn near need a PHD and Doctorate to get into upper management.
And many times what you learn there does not apply to what you actually do, but is somehow needed for the job title.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well, you have that problem too lol. Laws can only go so far, people will get what they deserve sooner or later. Those who can't carry their weight will be let go.
Jobs are lot like women at the entry level. What you know may get you into the door (IQ), treat them well and focus, collarborate, share what is important, be patient with all the nonesense that goes on, and you will do well. (EQ)
It's the patience with the nonsense that gets me. It's in very work culture, and some have the ability to shut that out and some don't.