Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Nah, you can just do a search. There actually many threads here about "roles" and how women in other countries feel that they have theirs and men have theirs.Which is why I said women from other countries are like traditional women here from generations ago. It's quite an eye opener.
oh, well, maybe I'll trust the scholars over some anecdotal opinion on the Internet
don't take it personal
Originally posted by -Pr-Read the book by Dr. Warren Farrel, a founder of the National Organization for Women. It's called, Why Men Earn More.
in what fields?
Long story short men work longer hours, take riskier higher paying jobs, take more dangerous jobs, and are more willing to travel, while women generally take safer jobs, work less hours, and leave the workforce more often, since their focus is family. Good book. 😉
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You're far cuter than me.Will things ever be "equal" completely? No. But they can progress, which is my point. Seems some have a problem with that, or they just like arguing in general. This is KMC after all.
Hmm even in really poor countries rice and beans are staples.
Don't you guys grow potatoes there more because of the climate? Is buying rice more expensive than eating out? Really? I suppose.
who said anything about eating out? i can go to lidl, dunnes or tesco (supermarket chains) over here and buy a microwaveable meal that feeds four for a fraction of the price that it would cost me to buy organic foods.
and while yes, irish farmers do grow potatoes (and many other vegetables), it's not nearly enough or cheap enough. plus, for most families, a "staple" isnt a meal. you cant just eat potatoes. even rice goes with meat and the like.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Read the book by Dr. Warren Farrel, a founder of the National Organization for Women. It's called, Why Men Earn More.Long story short men work longer hours, take riskier higher paying jobs, take more dangerous jobs, and are more willing to travel, while women generally take safer jobs, work less hours, and leave the workforce more often, since their focus is family. Good book. 😉
Is mostly the more hours on the job, that makes the difference, otherwise compartively speaking the difference is not that great.
Originally posted by inimalistAbout culture and roles? Tons of resources on it, or you could go travel. I trust experiencing something more than always reading it. Although reading doesn't hurt. It's the opinion of men and women in general from other countries, so what one person says, no matter their field of study won't hold more weight than the actual real world daily evidence. Anybody can say they practice a field of study nowadays anyways.
oh, well, maybe I'll trust the scholars over some anecdotal opinion on the Internetdon't take it personal
Do you really believe that most countries hold the US opinion about genders? Really?
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
About culture and roles? Tons of resources on it, or you could go travel. I trust experiencing something more than always reading it. Although reading doesn't hurt. It's the opinion of men and women in general from other countries, so what one person says, no matter their field of study won't hold more weight than the actual real world daily evidence. Anybody can say they practice a field of study nowadays anyways.Do you really believe that most countries hold the US opinion about genders? Really?
right, that is exactly what I said
Originally posted by -Pr-
who said anything about eating out? i can go to lidl, dunnes or tesco (supermarket chains) over here and buy a microwaveable meal that feeds four for a fraction of the price that it would cost me to buy organic foods.and while yes, irish farmers do grow potatoes (and many other vegetables), it's not nearly enough or cheap enough. plus, for most families, a "staple" isnt a meal. you cant just eat potatoes. even rice goes with meat and the like.
Right, now organic foods are expensive, you don't need those to eat healthy. Healthier foods like rice and beans are mass produced.
The cost of a potato in unit weight to a french fry at McDonalds is different in a scale of hundreds of times. You also have peanut butter. Cheap, good source of antioxidants, potassium, and protein.
I don't know your exact living costs, but they all scale up if the foods you are buying microwaved come from the basic foods you guy from the store.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Right, now organic foods are expensive, you don't need those to eat healthy. Healthier foods like rice and beans are mass produced.The cost of a potato in unit weight to a french fry at McDonalds is different in a scale of hundreds of times. You also have peanut butter. Cheap, good source of antioxidants, potassium, and protein.
I don't know your exact living costs, but they all scale up if the foods you are buying microwaved come from the basic foods you guy from the store.
Almost nobody in ireland sells peanut-butter. 😛
Even so-called "healthy" foods are still more expensive, because the mass produced ones are just that much cheaper, and if you're a mother on welfare with two kids and you have to choose between eating healthy and leaving your kids with a full belly at the end of e meal, you're going to pick the latter.
i'm not saying it's right, just that for a lot of people, it simply is how it is.
Originally posted by YankeeWhalerAlso that men take the risky jobs that pay more that women generally don't. Construction vs teaching, owning a company vs being a secretary.
Is mostly the more hours on the job, that makes the difference, otherwise compartively speaking the difference is not that great.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Almost nobody in ireland sells peanut-butter. 😛Even so-called "healthy" foods are still more expensive, because the mass produced ones are just that much cheaper, and if you're a mother on welfare with two kids and you have to choose between eating healthy and leaving your kids with a full belly at the end of e meal, you're going to pick the latter.
i'm not saying it's right, just that for a lot of people, it simply is how it is.
I don't know what they sell there, but peanut butter is dirt cheap.
I don't get what you're saying bro. Rice and beans and other foods are more mass produced than just about anything.
People in America often say that. Eating a taco is cheaper than buying food. Even if one taco costs you 99 cents and a bag of potatoes costs you 3 dollars, the potatoes will feed you many times over.
So if a person buys a bunch of healthier food, they pay more in the beginning, than one cheap meal, but they can eat the healthier food for many more servings. That's actually been proven.
Hell a huge bag of rice (and I mean huge) costs $4 here and rice is a dessicant, which means it absorbs water and it swells. You can buy and eat so much rice for cheap it isn't funny. I can't think of a microwaved meal being cheaper than rice or or fast food being cheaper than rice either.
I wasn't talking about McDonalds or any sort of "eating out". Maybe Ireland is just different, I don't know, but it's the vegetables, breads, butters and potatoes that see a rise in price because they're the foods that everyone buys.
Then you go down the frozen foods aisle, and well, it ain't pretty.
Also, how the hell did this end up on food.
Try not to buy "packaged" foods, like meals which are pre made. Buy foods that are individual like rice and potatoes and bread and cook it yourself. You'll save in the long run. Don't eat things like "lunchables" and pre made meals. Try healthy individual foods. Much better and cheaper.
Originally posted by King KandyYou and I agree there. 🙂
Eating healthier is much cheaper. Buy a huge bag of rice, cheap vegetables, and everything that lasts indefinitely, you buy in bulk then cook yourself. This adds up to way less than "mcdonalds". Most immigrant families have this figured out.
You're spot on. People in dirt poor countries do this, and I mean dirt poor countries. I cook all of the time while my friends eat out even though they earn much less. It costs them more and it's worse for them. This is why people who are poorer here are more likely to be fat. Because they eat more junk food.
I used to eat out every other day because of my company and travel and it was costing me hundreds a month. I now cook all of the time and it saves much more money. I don't miss eating out either. I just did for my birthday actually. 🙂
Originally posted by King Kandy
Eating healthier is much cheaper. Buy a huge bag of rice, cheap vegetables, and everything that lasts indefinitely, you buy in bulk then cook yourself. This adds up to way less than "mcdonalds". Most immigrant families have this figured out.
it is a little more variable than that, especially if you include labour in terms of cost
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Try not to buy "packaged" foods, like meals which are pre made. Buy foods that are individual like rice and potatoes and bread and cook it yourself. You'll save in the long run. Don't eat things like "lunchables" and pre made meals. Try healthy individual foods. Much better and cheaper.`
maybe its that way in america, but it's different here. or in ireland, i mean.
What does rice cost?
Originally posted by inimalistWell then you include gas and driving time. For me I can cook in the comfort of my place and not have to worry about spending extra time or spending more in gas.
it is a little more variable than that, especially if you include labour in terms of cost
Most healthy meals can be made in about 15-20 minutes. Doesn't need to be a gourmet world class meal.
Gas here is $3.66 a gallon, I am sure it costs more where some of you live.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
What does rice cost?Well then you include gas and driving time. For me I can cook in the comfort of my place and not have to worry about spending extra time or spending more in gas.
Most healthy meals can be made in about 15-20 minutes. Doesn't need to be a gourmet world class meal.
Gas here is $3.66 a gallon, I am sure it costs more where some of you live.
by the sack or in packets?