Gender roles and equality.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Aye.

Practicality plus affordability.

There are fat people in Ireland too, but yeah, it doesn't compare to what you guys have, tbh.

And those are the foods i'm talking about. In Aldi over here it's a lot cheaper to buy their brand pre-made meals/foods than it is to buy the sack of potatoes and a bunch of vegetables. Then there are things like the food keeping and whatnot, especially when you have a big family, unless you wantg to eat the same thing over and over. Then there's the time constraints.

Maybe, but i'd think hunger, oppression and poverty are pretty sucky too 😛

That's why you get the best. 🙂

Right, don't stress yourself out or pay more to save money, it makes no sense.

Maybe considering your opportunity costs. Nobody wants to eat the same thing again and again, but when your funds are tight you may have to eat the same thing more often. It might be cheaper in your case then, Aldi's is pretty cheap. But even then Aldi's has healthy food alternatives to bad stuff. Which was my point.

True, but at least you eat good. 🙂

Originally posted by YankeeWhaler
Upper management is changing though, slowly but it is happening.

The problem I see though relates more to academia credentials, you darn near need a PHD and Doctorate to get into upper management.

And many times what you learn there does not apply to what you actually do, but is somehow needed for the job title.

Originally posted by YankeeWhaler
Jobs are lot like women at the entry level. What you know may get you into the door (IQ), treat them well and focus, collarborate, share what is important, be patient with all the nonesense that goes on, and you will do well. (EQ)

It's the patience with the nonsense that gets me. It's in very work culture, and some have the ability to shut that out and some don't.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
That's due to degree inflation and the fact so many people have useless degrees. Overpriced degrees too. You have to look at the extra drama and the tendency to file suits and other things like that.

A lot of companies seem to encourgage playground politics, and bringing it up as an issue just causes more problems. It usually only get addressed as to who is saying that get the attention. White male bad, bad, bad.

Anyone else well you know, it was just teasing and a joke, you are being too sensitve about it. Learned that 20 years ago.

Some of the women were telling rather off color jokes and the guys we would look at each other and say, if I said that I would been fired in 5 seconds flat.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
That's due to degree inflation and the fact so many people have useless degrees. Overpriced degrees too. You have to look at the extra drama and the tendency to file suits and other things like that.

One thing I noticed too is that women think men know everything. I worked at a company where a few women in training had the experience in the industry and aced the training.

Well other had experience with phones but not the industry and were struggling. None of the women helped the men in the soft skills and terminology. It was very odd, but they sure did gab most of the time like they were at some sort of tea party for 2 or 3 hours at a time.

It was very odd, I feel you are as strong as your weakest link, and if some are better than others, take the initiative to help the others struggling, not just rely on the trainers of too bad so sad.

And this from a company that said teamwork is important.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Well more women work than men, and more women go to school than men. There are many more women getting these jobs, and if a woman works like a man does, and doesn't take time off constantly, she'll get the same things men get. Like Oprah did.

You do realize that there are women who are in charge who don't like to hire women because they are likely to drop out and have kids. They have done studies on this and men are more likely to hire based on the person and women who screen are more likely to hire based on looks.

When women call out of work more often (which is twice as often in the US) and drop out and expect paid leave (which is unfair, because we as consumers have to pay for that) they can't expect to get high end jobs. Who would want to take the risk? Now there are women who are career driven and do want to work until they drop dead 40 years straight, but most simply don't, and that's true. Many work and then have kids and cut back on hours and work part time. That's a choice they make. Women who want to own companies and be presidents are in the minority. Even the ones who are in power said themselves they just don't care about it much.

It's hard to be a parent and a career person, one or the other suffers. Women are more inclined to make family decisions over career decisions, because that's where their priorities (and expectations) are.

Barbara Wlaters said a long time ago, of the 3 you can only be great at 2, not possible to all well 3, a great marriage, a great career and a great parent. So everyone has to choose their battles.

You have to look at the extra drama and the tendency to file suits and other things like that. [/B][/QUOTE]

The incredulity of the drama that makes me just shake my head. And thats what gets me in trouble. Like why are you doing that, and I reply why would any reasonable not to that.

Ok C-Master, your continuous sexism is now going too far. Time to cut it out with your ridiculous 'pee sitting down' comments and the like you resort to whenever it is pointed out what an ass of yourself you are making (which has been almost constantly in the last 24 hours). Carry on posting like that and you will be warned.

So let me get this straight. I make a thread and ask a question. Two people come on my thread and insult me and troll my thread when I said absolutely nothing towards them offensive in the first place? They don't get any warning? I've also said nothing sexist. Except that both sexes should get equal rights and one sex doesn't deserve any special treatment over the other. Equality. Any comment I said like that was in response to constant insults and trolling.

My thread got along much better when certain members weren't posting. A person can disagree without having to resort to insulting, trolling, and flaming, which is against the forum rules.

Cmaster makes many compelling points.

I try.

Your opinion that what you say is not sexist is a. ludicrous and b. irrelevant- as is you arguing my ruling.

You have got nothing that you did not earn- you post like a sexist idiot and people will call you out on being so. Your attitude back, however, is not acceptable and your general attitude is tantamount to continual trolling.

If you want to discuss this further, do it by PM. Otherwise, I've made my ruling. Don't discuss it any further here.

Will do. Nothing I'm surprised by.

Originally posted by Mikey no 1
Cmaster makes many compelling points.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Will do. Nothing I'm surprised by. This thread did one thing though, it explicitly proved a point I've made. Whenever *any* discrimination against a man is pointed out. It is ignored, brushed off, or made to not be a big deal. When it is a woman it *is* a big deal, and if this thread were from a female's point a view there would be no complaints, or posts like we had here. And it wouldn't be considered sexist.

Sadly, all the thread really did was further reveal reveal c-master's overt sexism and blatant misogyny.

I love you too Ush. I've made my stance clear on numerous threads though. Nobody deserves special treatment (except minors). Men don't, women don't, older people don't, poor people don't, and even friends and family don't. Which is why I don't allow my employees to hire friends and family to work for me or my company. If a person is irresponsible, they're irresponsible. Gender, creed, or whatever. I treat a person based on what they do. Not on other factors. People get paid what they deserve, and if they don't like it they have to do something about it. Oprah for instance, is female, and while I disagree with her show, she deserves all the money she earns. Because she worked hard for it. She did what most people haven't done. So she deserves it.

People may not like that, but it's my take on things.

Originally posted by Mikey no 1
Most men not getting any put women on pedestals. It's that simple.

Yes, you have indeed make the extreme sexism of your stance clear, in all its stupid glory. Obviously it is your take- doesn't change how dumb it is.

About as stupid as making childish comments like Mikey just made- or agreeing with them.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Sadly, all the thread really did was further reveal reveal c-master's overt sexism and blatant misogyny.

If you don't have a useful post to make then do not make one at all, Mikey.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Yes, you have indeed make the extreme sexism of your stance clear, in all its stupid glory. Obviously it is your take- doesn't change how dumb it is.

About as stupid as making childish comments like Mikey just made- or agreeing with them.

Lol, and the comment was funny. I couldn't help myself. No different than the comments about me being scared of "cooties" in this very thread. Doesn't bother me, it eases up the tension.

What he said held some truth. Guys who try to treat women like princesses to get with them never works. Women prefer guys who are confident and stand their ground. Which is why we have the nice guy phenomenon.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
If you don't have a useful post to make then do not make one at all, Mikey.