Ironfist vs Midnighter

Started by Prep-Man5 pages
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
MN wins, hand down.

This is my vote.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I think it's the fact that he should have felt it/not be blind sided.

but he DID feel it. in fact, he COMMENTED on it. he simply didn't view what he sensed as a threat, therefore saw no reason to react to it in ANY way at all--no tp assault, no intangible, no superspeed.

i see no way this can be viewed as a speed feat. 😬

Originally posted by leonidas
but he DID feel it. in fact, he COMMENTED on it. he simply didn't view what he sensed as a threat, therefore saw no reason to react to it in ANY way at all--no tp assault, no intangible, no superspeed.

i see no way this can be viewed as a speed feat. 😬

Which is why he should have used empathy or telepathy. Which he has done in the past. But like I said, this is a new MM. Or a slightly changed in certain ways.

Ironfist vs Midnighter eh? Even if Midnighter loses, he wins 😄

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Which is why he should have used empathy or telepathy.
😑

you don't think he USED tp/empathy? then..... how do you think he sensed him at all.

I just said, it could have been his super senses. The White Martians were trying to pick up Batman through a combo of pheremones and telepathy. And super site. Did you read my posts?? :/

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Midnighter. Danny does better than the vast majority of streets/low metas though.
I think something that may be lost is that Midnighter's probably got telepathic camoflauge, so it might actually be a feat of telepathy for J'onn to even sense him in the first place.

IF 6/10

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I just said, it could have been his super senses. The White Martians were trying to pick up Batman through a combo of pheremones and telepathy. And super site. Did you read my posts?? :/

not sight, obvioulsy. does he HAVE super smell? so you think it's possible he HEARD him? yet he said he SENSED him. that doesn't fly either.

and it doesn't matter. one thing is fact--he DID sense him. yet he clearly did not perceive him as a threat, hence he had no reason to USE his speed to defend himself. ergo, it was not a speed feat. anyway, i'm done trying to convince you.

i agree with ODG--it was more likely a STRONG feat for mm that he DID perceive MN though taking out MM was a great feat for MN regardless of how he did it.

n/t.

Originally posted by leonidas
not sight, obvioulsy. does he HAVE super smell? so you think it's possible he HEARD him? yet he said he SENSED him. that doesn't fly either.

and it doesn't matter. one thing is fact--he DID sense him. yet he clearly did not perceive him as a threat, hence he had no reason to USE his speed to defend himself. ergo, it was not a speed feat. anyway, i'm done trying to convince you.

i agree with ODG--it was more likely a STRONG feat for mm that he DID perceive MN though taking out MM was a great feat for MN regardless of how he did it.

We really don't know if MM didn't perceive him as a threat. He didn't have time to react. And Martians have super senses.

As much as I respect ODG as my protege, he is horribly wrong if he thinks IF doesn't win 10/10.

Originally posted by Mindset
As much as I respect ODG as my protege, he is horribly wrong if he thinks IF doesn't win 10/10.

If he's wrong, does that make him a bad student, or you a bad teacher? 😛

Yeah, I'd like his opinion on the matter.

Originally posted by cdtm
If he's wrong, does that make him a bad student, or you a bad teacher? 😛
Well, he is a Guy fan, so you draw your own conclusions from that.

are YOU that 'guy'....? 😖hifty:

Well so much for the new Mids having KK level pressure points.

MM was shown playing possum in the next storm watch as Mid's gave him props for it.

Hey, why is ODG banned?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Some posters on other boards agree it's a combo and MM might not be as powerful in the new DCU. Let's just wait and see.

This is just wonderful, the way you dodge and runa round debates, you were just trying argue with me in another thread that it the same MM and the author said so, and now your saying we must wait and see?

honestly your a friggin joke.

Originally posted by Digi
facepalm

Am I being trolled? Do I really need to explain that an analogy isn't a 1:1 comparison but analogous comparisons. No, a tiger doesn't have super speed, neither does Manny Pacquiao. But I also don't have MN'ers reflexes. It's the relationship between the two that's important, not the speeds.

Analogy. Not substitution. 2:4 as 100:200

Even if you disagree with my analogy, your rebuttal here is displaying a gross misunderstanding of how it is actually being used.


Yes your being trolled, the dude is a moron. He has a serous hard on for wildstorm characters and pretends things are feats and more impressive then they really are all the time. And he contrdicted him self numerous times from thread to thread. he pretty much changes his arguements at will. Go take a look at Psylocke vs Midnighter thread. He completely contradicts himself between the two thread.