Emperor Palpatine, Darth Vader, & Yoda Vs. Saruman, Sauron, & Witch King

[Disclaimer: This stems from an argument originating in the Comic Vs. forum. Don't mean to step on anyone's toes if they had a similar or same idea for a battle thread.]

Stipulations:

Standard Comic Vs. forum combat rules (i.e., .5 km starting distance at beginning of battle, "general knowledge of opponent" stips, etc.).

Sauron is in physical form.

All Star Wars characters are armed with light sabers.

Battle takes place in the Arena from Attack of the Clones (with the arena being proportionately enlarged to allow for the .5 km starting distance).

Discuss.

Team Sauron wins.

Oh, and one more stipulation, which should really go without saying:

This is movie incarnarions only. No book feats are admissable for any character.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Oh, and one more stipulation, which should really go without saying:

This is movie incarnarions only. No book feats are admissable for any character.

Force-speed + battle-precog = a decapitated witch king (by yoda), Sarumon(by Palpatine) and Sauron(by Vader).

Though Vader make opt to just crush Sauron via the Force, if it's the slower suited Vader.

Originally posted by Robtard
Force-speed + battle-precog = a decapitated witch king (by yoda), Sarumon(by Palpatine) and Sauron(by Vader).

Though Vader make opt to just crush Sauron via the Force, if it's the slower suited Vader.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Witch King destroys their light sabers via the same way he destroyed Gandalf's staff. Saruman tks them all over the place and Sauron swings his mace which equals end game.

Witch King can't react faster than any of the Force-users. Lighsabres are technology, they're not magical; so there is no precedent in the Witch King doing this.

Sarumon can't react faster than any of the Force-users. Force team senses some TK attack (due to battle-procog); they can Force-push/pull/crush him first.

Sauron can't react faster than any of the Force-users. Vader could be crushing him like a tin-can .5 seconds after the fight starts.

Speed and precog win.

Originally posted by Robtard
Witch King can't react faster than any of the Force-users. Lighsabres are technology, they're not magical; so there is no precedent in the Witch King doing this.

Sarumon can't react faster than any of the Force-users. Force team senses some TK attack (due to battle-procog); they can Force-push/pull/crush him first.

Sauron can't react faster than any of the Force-users. Vader could be crushing him like a tin-can .5 seconds after the fight starts.

Speed and precog win.

Yes, he can. Palpatine showed Yoda's poor reflexes when he slowly raised his hand and blasted him before he could get his hands up in defense. Saruman tk's him all over the place.

Sauron invokes fear in his enemies and swings his mace. It isn't hard to see that these guys go down in epic fashion. Sauron is simply too powerful for these thee especially considering he has the Witch King and Saruman backing him along with their abilities.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Since when was it proven the Witch King can only do so to magical materials. The staff was physical and was destroyed so is the handle of the light saber.

Yes, he can. Palpatine showed Yoda's poor reflexes when he slowly raised his hand and blasted him before he could get his hands up in defense. Saruman tk's him all over the place.

Sauron invokes fear in his enemies and swings his mace. It isn't hard to see that these guys go down in epic fashion. Sauron is simply too powerful for these thee especially considering he has the Witch King and Saruman backing him along with their abilities.

Considering he's never exploded anything else and Gandalf was trying to use the stave's magic against him when he did, it's on you to show WK can destroy anything with a scream. Go. Also, Jedi/Sith can react/attack first.

No, one poor showing doesn't dispel the countless showing of Jedi/Sith reaction-time and battle-precog.

Sauron gets crushed in his armor by Vader before he can do anything of worth.

You're to LoTR what RJ was to Harry Potter. At least you choose to fanboy something that's great, I'll give you that.

Not to mention that the futuristic space materials that Lightsabers are made of would be quite a bit harder to explode than the wood of Gandalfs staff.

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering he's never exploded anything else and Gandalf was trying to use the stave's magic against him when he did, it's on you to show WK can destroy anything with a scream. Go. Also, Jedi/Sith can react/attack first.

No, one poor showing doesn't dispel the countless showing of Jedi/Sith reaction-time and battle-precog.

Sauron gets crushed in his armor by Vader before he can do anything of worth.

You're to LoTR what RJ was to Harry Potter. At least you choose to fanboy something that's great, I'll give you that.

I never claimed it did but these three have the powers to negate their skill.

Sauron would dominate Vader or any sith. They'd likely be in awe of his presence like the alliance was. The ring would seduce any sith and easily.

I miss Rj. It's a shame because I'm on a movie kick now so my time here will be short but intense.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Not to mention that the futuristic space materials that Lightsabers are made of would be quite a bit harder to explode than the wood of Gandalfs staff.

When did the Balrog try and fail to break his staff?

Originally posted by Nephthys
When did the Balrog try and fail to break his staff?

Originally posted by quanchi112
With limited screen time all you need to show is it occurring once. It was made of physical material just like a lightsaber. There's no precedent it needs to be magical.

I never claimed it did but these three have the powers to negate their skill.

Sauron would dominate Vader or any sith. They'd likely be in awe of his presence like the alliance was. The ring would seduce any sith and easily.

He exploded a magical bit of wood; that's it. Evening saying that the Witch King can explode anything (he can't), he's still slower. Any of the three will sense his scream before it happens and he'll have his helmet crushed around his invisible face.

They don't have the speed though and the "power" is debatable.

Sauron gets crushed in his armor. After he's dead or left all gimpy like, a Sith would likely take the ring; maybe a weaker-willed Jedi. But that's not what this thread is about.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The staff was resisting his attacks so if he could have broken it he would have.

No that was his magic. Fail harder plz!

Originally posted by Robtard
He exploded a magical bit of wood; that's it. Evening saying that the Witch King can explode anything (he can't), he's still slower. Any of the three will sense his scream before it happens and he'll have his helmet crushed around his invisible face.

They don't have the speed though and the "power" is debatable.

Sauron gets crushed in his armor. After he's dead or left all gimpy like, a Sith would likely take the ring; maybe a weaker-willed Jedi. But that's not what this thread is about.

I don't think the lightsaber can kill an undead wraith especially considering there are no females in the thread.

They don't need the speed when far slower attacks have hit Yoda and caught Obi unaware. They have the means to do so.

I don't think minus a ring or finger loss they can easily destroy sauron since the Nazgul were so hard to kill and they are far weaker than Sauron with the master ring.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No that was his magic. Fail harder plz!

Originally posted by quanchi112
So the Balrog attacking Gandalf who had his staff isn't proof he was unable to destroy his staff ? LOL.

What? 😬

He didn't try to destroy his staff. He swung at him with his sword and Gandalf blocked it with a magic bubble.

YouTube video

Obviously the Balrog just doesn't have the ability that the Witch King used to destroy it. Hell, the Balrog doesn't even use magic in the movies.

Now prove that the Witch King can make their lightsabers explode given that they're harder and more durable than Gandalfs pussy-ass staff. And that he can do this before getting a lightsaber shoved through his forehead. Aragorn beat his ass with a buggering torch, imagine how effective a Lightsaber will be against him.

Gandalf blocked the Balrog's attack with the power of Glamdring, his sword, and his magic.

The Sith win this.

Force grab weapons, Force lightning, Force choke, and then light saber hack & slash. Precog is the winning factor here.

Also, the Sith would be anything but intimidated by Sauron's presence. The Isildur used the sword Narsil to cut off Sauron's fingers, while wearing battle "Sauron" body armor, so the light sabers would do more damage by far.

Originally posted by Nephthys
What? 😬

He didn't try to destroy his staff. He swung at him with his sword and Gandalf blocked it with a magic bubble.

YouTube video

Obviously the Balrog just doesn't have the ability that the Witch King used to destroy it. Hell, the Balrog doesn't even use magic in the movies.

Now prove that the Witch King can make their lightsabers explode given that they're harder and more durable than Gandalfs pussy-ass staff. And that he can do this before getting a lightsaber shoved through his forehead. Aragorn beat his ass with a buggering torch, imagine how effective a Lightsaber will be against him.

The Balrog is a very powerful being who despite all his power can't just negate his staff which shows you how formidable the Witch King really is.

So you feel the material which comprises the handle is too hard for the Witch King to destroy ? You're just plain reaching you can disagree all you want but I know deep down you agree with me. You either believe it or you don't we both watched each scene so acting like there's more hidden proof when you just really want the star wars characters to win is silly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, Gandalf resisted his attack with his staff which was right in front of the Balrog. Acting as if he could have destroyed it when his magic was resisting his fire attacks is just plain reaching.

The Balrog is a very powerful being who despite all his power can't just negate his staff which shows you how formidable the Witch King really is.

So you feel the material which comprises the handle is too hard for the Witch King to destroy ? You're just plain reaching you can disagree all you want but I know deep down you agree with me. You either believe it or you don't we both watched each scene so acting like there's more hidden proof when you just really want the star wars characters to win is silly.

No he didn't. He used his magic, and by the looks of it Gladring, as Impediment said. Watch the scene again and you can clearly see that Gandalf is holding up his right hand to block the attack, which is his swordhand. The Balrog never attacked or did anything to his staff. Acting like his staff is uber because the Balrog didn't break it is insane because it never tried to. Stop being insane Quan.

The Balrog never uses magic. The comparison fails. End of.

How is that reaching? Star Wars materials are hundreds of thousands of times harder than steel. You think the Witch King can shatter the lightsabers? Fvcking prove it. But of course you won't. I look forward to you dodging the issue in your reply. It should be fun reading.