Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
And the reason they put such a huge importance on Frodo destroying the ring was because they knew that if Sauron went his armies would go with him. Permanently.If you agreed with me from the get go, why not just say so? "Hey Blax, you're absolutely right and amazing in bed." See, it's not that hard.
There's no evidence to support that Blax. Saurons power is a constantly feared thing, his presence in the movies and the characters reaction to him is all the proof required to support the theory.
There is none of this. Provide some, or give it up =\
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
If a broken regular old sword can pierce his armor and remove his hand, a spell will slice him in half.
Regular old sword...
You really didn't watch the movies at all.
Maybe you should listen to the dialogue as opposed to watching the movies muted and touching yourself whenever gollum is on screen 😛
"The skill of the elves can reforge the sword of kings but only you have the power to wield it" - Elrond
"I do not want that power, I have never wanted it" - Aragorn
If you think it's a 'regular old sword' that come on. Tell me how exactly such a mundane blade was able to deflect the sword of the dead.
Anyone who actually has read the books knows the reason Sauron stepped on the blade. It wasn't a 'give up' gesture, it was because Narsil is a very special sword. If I recall they even had to enchant a shealth just for it. The only problem is the movies do not portray the swords full power.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Snape has been shown in the movies defending himself from attacks using his spells.His teleportation ability is a spell, and Sauron's mace attacks are attacks. Snape will definitely defend himself from Sauron's attack. That's common ****ing sense Quan. Like seriously, what do you think he's going to do when Sauron slowly shambles toward him?
Lol, i'm sorry but what's the proof you have Sauron is slow. His only showing was walking to the front line, then striding through the enemy as he decimated them.
Or is it, Show running or he can't!
And if as you say CIS is automatically turned off, forget him exposing the ring so easily. As clearly that is the greatest moment of CIS in the whole of the LoTR trilogy
Originally posted by NemeBro
Snape could have soloed Sauron's entire Orc army.Seriously. 😐
Any Wizard that can half-apparate would be unable to be killed by an Orc.
And that's ridiculous. Snape lacks feats for the reactive speed and swiftness to deal with mass people charging while being shot at. Even if orcs are a crap shot, there's nothing backing up that he'd spot and be able to react to it all.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Unless I've forgotten something, half-apparated Wizards are intangible, are they not?
No..... prat 😛
I also love how it's assumed that Snapes spells can bring down Sauron when... if memory serves well Hagrid, who is just a half giant, is resistant to magic. So all of a sudden the conclusion is reached than a Maiar would not be? An essentially Angel-like being.
Oh right, my mistake, feats. Well let's think, Sauron is far and away the most powerful Maiar, and Gandalf (who is also a Maiar) has achieved the following;
- Held back a Balrog (A Force resisted Far more powerful than ANYTHING in Snapes arsenal)
- Completely unaffected by a fireball from Saruman
- Shattered Gimli's Axe, Deflected Legolas's arrow, and burnt Aragorns sword in the space of about 2 seconds.
The Witch King, who is Sauron's minion made Gandalf look like a punk. So the assumption Snape wins bacause of his leet magics is pretty incredible. So come on Snape supporters. Give some sort of a reason why anyone should take the notion Snape could even hurt Sauron seriously. Does he actually have any feats on magically powerful or resistant enemies?
Last I checked he got b***h-slapped by McGonigal, which save lockheart is the only fight I recall him having in the movies. Not exactly golden proof that he would totally pew pew on The Real Dark Lord.
Originally posted by RE: BlaxicanNo, he's dead wrong. We see the wizards miss left and right against each other. This video game sense mentality of soloing armies is without merit or anything even close to a small army on screen. Arrows would mow him down and quite easily.
He's right, though.It would take time, a very very long time. But, if all orcs have at their disposal are swords and bows, then yes any decent wizard can kill an infinite number of them, so long as they don't tag him/her when he/she is sleeping, eating etc.
Originally posted by RobtardYes, he can but it won't fatally destroy him whereas he needs one attack to do so. The ring amps him to weather the storm.
What you said doesn't counter Snape being able to attack Sauron from much farther away with spells.Basically a guy with a gun Vs a guy with a bat.
Originally posted by NemeBro😂 Yeah, because so many wizards were portrayed in hp as soloing armies.
Snape could have soloed Sauron's entire Orc army.Seriously. 😐
Any Wizard that can half-apparate would be unable to be killed by an Orc.
So yeah... throwing this one out there, but er. What stops Sauron destroying Snape's Wand?
Witch King got his power from Sauron essentially, and he blew up Gandalfs staff.
Or if you don't like that Gandalf super heated Aragorns sword which would very likely destroy a wand.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he can but it won't fatally destroy him whereas he needs one attack to do so. Th
Good, glad we agree on that, Snape's faster and has the much better range. But it will destroy Sauron's armor; parts like his fingers and thereby release Sauron's hold on the one ring; that will send Sauron back into spirit form and the fights over.
Snape wins the fight and Sauron goes back to being a bodiless all-seeing eye. Glad we agree.
Originally posted by RobtardI put yes to agree to it's a guy with a bat vs. a guy with a gun I didn't concede Sauron loses only that the guy with the bat in this instance still wins. hat's why they play the games. I don't see his spells as destroying his armor he'd need to sever the ring and I don't see him doing so before Sauron oneshots him.
Good, glad we agree on that, Snape's faster and has the much better range. But it will destroy Sauron's armor; parts like his fingers and thereby release Sauron's hold on the one ring; that will send Sauron back into spirit form and the fights over.Snape wins the fight and Sauron goes back to being a bodiless all-seeing eye. Glad we agree.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I put yes to agree to it's a guy with a bat vs. a guy with a gun I didn't concede Sauron loses only that the guy with the bat in this instance still wins. hat's why they play the games. I don't see his spells as destroying his armor he'd need to sever the ring and I don't see him doing so before Sauron oneshots him.
So spells that can cause solid objects to explode and such won't affect armor that can be cut with a sword? You're wrong, Sauron loses. I don't like HP either, but I've learned to deal with it.
Originally posted by RobtardI don't see a spell making Sauron exploding due to his powers/especially the ring. I am going by implied power not feats alone.
So spells that can cause solid objects to explode and such won't affect armor that can be cut with a sword? You're wrong, Sauron loses. I don't like HP either, but I've learned to deal with it.
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Regular old sword...You really didn't watch the movies at all.
Maybe you should listen to the dialogue as opposed to watching the movies muted and touching yourself whenever gollum is on screen 😛
"The skill of the elves can reforge the sword of kings but only you have the power to wield it" - Elrond
"I do not want that power, I have never wanted it" - AragornIf you think it's a 'regular old sword' that come on. Tell me how exactly such a mundane blade was able to deflect the sword of the dead.
Anyone who actually has read the books knows the reason Sauron stepped on the blade. It wasn't a 'give up' gesture, it was because Narsil is a very special sword. If I recall they even had to enchant a shealth just for it. The only problem is the movies do not portray the swords full power.
Right. And yet this Super Magic Sword was broken by being casually stepped on.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't see a spell making Sauron exploding due to his powers/especially the ring. I am going by implied power not feats alone.
LoL, purposely changing what I am saying over and over? Not Sauron, his armor; his armoured gauntlet, which the ring is around, that will explode along with his easily cut fingers.
Screen feats > your wishes and there was nothing implied about Sauron's armor being anything but metal. Just going to have to accept it and deal.