Originally posted by Robtard
Here's three:
1) Sauron didn't do it, it was Gandalf the white.
2) He used it against a non magical metal sword. Snapes wand is the apple to your orange.
3) You're using a no limit fallacy, might as well say Sauron could have heated ever human and elf to death at the battle of the Last Alliance using that "Gandalf did it to a sword" logic.No, not all Mair are the same and have the same powers/abilities. For that matter not all Sith can use force-lighting; not all Jedi can tap into the Darkside like Mace. So in other words, you have no retort.
2) Which has shown no resistances to magical spells in the movies or to physical damage. Your are creating a difference which does not exist
3) I am not saying that because A human/elf would clearly by a more difficult task if nothing else due to size. But let's actually look at what I am saying
I am saying the same spell would be capable of burning something;
Smaller
No more resistant
More vulnerable
And that's a no limit fallacy?
Originally posted by Nephthys
No, its like a wizard not being able to use Avada Kadava, or a Jedi not being able to use Force Lightning. Just because he was a Maiar doesn't mean he can use all of Gandalfs spells, nor because he was called a Necromance [b]in the books mean that he can either.Could the Balrog use this spell? No. Not all Maiar are the same. [/B]
Actually if you know what a Maiar is, you would understand this to be the truth.
I brought up Necromancer as a reminder than things are not limited to their showings. He wasn't Shown to even be capable of a spell... does that mean he cannot? Well they do call him the Necromancer so what do you think?
And Balrogs are corrupted by the power of Melkor. And of a much Much lesser power than Gandalf, Saruman or Sauron. Barlogs are capable of spells/magic through very clearly this is true, from the showing of wielding fire, and conjuring flame weaponry.
The point of such references is simple. Gandalf was capable of such. Sauron is far greater.
But frankly I grow bored of this.
Here's how you're playing it.
- Sauron cannot do anything he was not shown to have done, despite the fact he has about 20 seconds of screen time.
- Anything implied is redundant.
- Anything lesser beings of his race can do, he cannot
- Anything a minion of his does, he can not despite the fact they draw their power from him.
- Snape is assumed to know every spell all hogwarts students have been shown to use
- Snape is assumed to be able to use disapparate without limit
- Snape's wand is assumed to be immune to any LotR spell regardless of any showing of wands vulnerability.
To call that bias is a short version of the truth. Calling it as I see it, I would actually say you are baiting Quan. This entire thread is such, and you are contributors. If these are seriously legitimate rules, then this is obviously a spite thread.
So here's the deal. I'm out. It's one rule for Sauron, and another rule for Snape, and I'm not interested in playing a rigged game.
Later, but hopefully not.