Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Started by Sadako of Girth112 pages

Incorrect.

And you are the one downplaying McClane, and over amping Van "flowery powder puff" Zan.

Anyway, since you havent seen the 1st two DHs, judging by your earlier post, one has to wonder if you actually saw DH4 also..

You are the most butthurt person in the world. Hence your flipping to blindly support Van Zan here.

Zan wins. I accept your concession.

That I conceded that Van Zan wins if he uses Nukes on McClane from 3,000 miles away (maybe in orbit) and McClane is tied to a stake after having eaten his own arms? Sure.. Van might win then....but aside from that, that softie deliverer of cissy punches will never beat McClane.

McClane gets massacred by Zan. McClane and his weak sissy hits that have won him 0 fistfights are no match for Van Zan the badass dragon hunter who died in the most awesome way imaginable and didn't get his character raped by sequelitis.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
As if that matters.
And how can you say that...? Got inner mind scripting for them all, have you?

But since you mention it, Maj.Grant had respect for McClane: Still got McClane'd though.

She turned her back after she disarmed him. The guy is weak sauce. Zan wouldn't even feel a mcHit.

Well, he certainly felt a malnourished Quinn's hit.

Therefore McClane would rip his head off, Zan's fight ability being made of wet tissue.
(Or at least punching like it.)

McClane defends himself with blocks and stiff AND can take shots. He has zero worries against a feeb like Van Zan, your fantasy man.
But its ok, if you thought McClane hit Thornberg and didnt know that this was eleborated upon in DH2 as a fairly major plot point, you know nothing of DH anyway and you argue out of autobitterness because of your much proven butthurt.. 🙂

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well, he certainly felt a malnourished Quinn's hit.

WTF are you talking about? Quinn wasn't weak or malnourished. 😆 You and your retarded sig (which I'm so flattered by) is wrong. Quinn was muscular as shit and spent his days mining stones with a pickaxe. He killed dragons 20 feet away from him, while McClane had to hide in a massive tunnel just to take out a stationary helicopter. Quinn was way more badass that McClane ever was on his best day.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Therefore McClane would rip his head off, Zan's fight ability being made of wet tissue.
(Or at least punching like it.)

😆 McClane's a wimp who's gotten his ass kicked by every opponent he faces in H2H. Quinn is tougher than McClane (takes on dragons to the face, while McClane must hide to take on helicopters), which is why he took those hits. McClane is a weakling. Zan will eviscerate him with his bare hands.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
McClane defends himself with blocks and stiff

Which is why he hasn't won a pure H2H fight yet 😆

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
AND can take shots.

Too bad he can't distribute them 😆

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He has zero worries against a feeb like Van Zan, your fantasy man.
But its ok, if you thought McClane hit Thornberg and didnt know that this was eleborated upon in DH2 as a fairly major plot point, you know nothing of DH anyway and you argue out of autobitterness because of your much proven butthurt.. 🙂

It's OK. It's blatantly apparent you are a biased fool who hasn't seen Reign of Fire in their life, considering you think Quinn is some malnourished weakling when he's done more badass things than McClane has ever dreamed of.

Can't believe this thread has gone on for this long.
You guys think Zan can win this fight just because he fought some slum dog and jumped in the air into a dragon's mouth?
Good luck with that.

What has Mcclane done in H2H to win this? His tactic of outlasting his opponent until he can get a melee weapon won't work here, because there's no melee weapon in the thread. In pure H2H Van wails on him

Actaully hurt/damaged people with his fists.

Killed people.

IE: way more than Van Zan has.

In the new movie he punches a large Russian out with an Indy style THUNK then steals his humvee.

One punch. Crunch.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well, he certainly felt a malnourished Quinn's hit.

Therefore McClane would rip his head off, Zan's fight ability being made of wet tissue.
(Or at least punching like it.)

McClane defends himself with blocks and stiff AND can take shots. He has zero worries against a feeb like Van Zan, your fantasy man.
But its ok, if you thought McClane hit Thornberg and didnt know that this was eleborated upon in DH2 as a fairly major plot point, you know nothing of DH anyway and you argue out of autobitterness because of your much proven butthurt.. 🙂

The guy shrugged it off like it was nothing. Look at Quinn's physique. This wasn't Bale from the Machinist so please look up the word malnourished at once. Zan wins. Lestov has seen the light and is like a homing missile set to destroy McClaniacs. Great year thus far.

Physique doesnt mean you can fight, as proved by Van Zan.

Well Lestov will fail all day every day as he has nothing to assert anything on, thanks to his continually backing and arsetonguing losers.
(Onscreen characters and the odd forum participant, such as yourself, of course..)

Van Zan causes absolutely no damage to people and has to have help from those same people in tackling dragons.

Originally posted by the ninjak
In the new movie he punches a large Russian out with an Indy style THUNK then steals his humvee.

One punch. Crunch.

Marvellous. 😮‍💨

Now when did Van Zan ever do that...?
Oh thats right. Never. His best punches leave even average men like Quinn totally untouched and feeds dragons, turning himself into a slightly more literal form of excrement than his usual.

Quanchi and Lestov's next comments are waited for:

IE: Cry Hard with a vengence, and A good day to cry hard, respectively.

Originally posted by the ninjak
In the new movie he punches a large Russian out with an Indy style THUNK then steals his humvee.

One punch. Crunch.

Did the Russian put up a defense, or did McClane do his usual cheapshot? Even so, this Russian doesn't sound as agile as Van Zan, so just because he's able to KO some slow lumbering dumbass doesn't mean he'll be touching Zan. I've never argued Mcclane didn't have strength, but he doesn't have the H2H skill to apply it. He can take hits, but can't distribute them. That's why he usually goes for either the "cheapshot" tactic, or the "outlast until a melee weapon is reached" tactic. McClane's never won a face-to-face H2H match based purely off his skill because he doesn't have the skill. Zan does. Even if McClane is durable enough to require 1,000 punches to the face, Zan can and will do it, because McClane can't and won't counter.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Physique doesnt mean you can fight, as proved by Van Zan.

Well Lestov will fail all day every day as he has nothing to assert anything on, thanks to his continually backing and arsetonguing losers.
(Onscreen characters and the odd forum participant, such as yourself, of course..)

Van Zan causes absolutely no damage to people and has to have help from those same people in tackling dragons.

You said malnourished.

Affected by improper nutrition or an insufficient diet. In the future don't use words you don't know the meaning of. Now you want to pretend it means can't fight. Prove Quinn can't fight and that he's just a weak man. Zan laughs off McClane's best hits and beats him 10/10.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said malnourished.

Affected by improper nutrition or an insufficient diet. In the future don't use words you don't know the meaning of. Now you want to pretend it means can't fight. Prove Quinn can't fight and that he's just a weak man. Zan laughs off McClane's best hits and beats him 10/10.

You can tell Saddie hasn't seen Reign of Fire and is talking out of his ass. As usual for a trolling fool such as him 😆

Originally posted by Lestov16
You can tell Saddie hasn't seen Reign of Fire and is talking out of his ass. As usual for a trolling fool such as him 😆
I have never seen him post this much. It's obvious we are in his head but he needs to quit taking this stuff so seriously and just change that terrible star wars format off.

No. LESTY said malnourished. (see my sig)

And given the lack of food supplies en masse, due to Dragons ruining crops and mass transport of supplies being rare: I'd agree with him.

Childishly copying something I said validly, because you have nothing else apart from that and other forms of trollery left is a concession that will be accepted.

I'm not exaggerating with the sound of the punch either.
It sounded like a sledgehammer laced with leather hitting a cement wall.
If Zan got hit by such a shot he goes down like a sack of potatoes.

The rage-head is even juiced up enough to probably let John let one in to test his mettle. Which will prove to be his downfall.

McClane wins.

And Quan and Lester....surely there are better characters to resort to such shenanigans as this.