Nah 2011/12 Lestov was a comparatively righteous dude who should have ran for president.
Pwns the living shit out of this other one.
Sounds like he made his own mind up rather than letting others do their reviewing for him.
I've heard good things about it too. (But if it is indeed IMO shit then I'll be the 1st one to tell you next week...but find out for yourself.)
McClane wins.
Actually, based on what I'm hearing, I may end up wrong about a lot of things. Apparently, in this movie, McClane's tanking grievous injuries like minor scratches, even moreso than the previous films. If he actually wins a fight or two, these new feats may elevate him beyond the wuss-status he once inhabited.
But as far as DH1-4 McClane goes, Zan Amon Goeth's him.
Downplaying? 😆 I give nothing but objective unbiased judgement based on the screenfeats. Like I said, if McClane's fighting prowess has improved in DH5 (which it sounds like it has) then I may take back a few judgements, including about Bauer. But even that is based on how much his skill has improved. He has to be able to defend himself in a face-to-face fight and not depend on cheapshots, like with Lihn. We'll see soon.
But as far as McClane's feats in DH1-4 go, he doesn't have nearly the H2H prowess to defend himself in a fight against Zan. Van Zan Milosevic's McClane /thread
What the **** has McClane done in pure H2H to get the win over Van Zan NemeBro?
Cheapshot someone of lesser body mass (who still kicked the shit out of him to the point that he could only retaliate with a truck)?
Seriously, NemeBro. Name me one pure H2H fight (no use of a melee weapon, like chains, wires, etc.) that McClane has won. He doesn't have any (he might in DH5 though). Mcclane hasn't done shit to suggest he can defend himself here.
Van Zan wins, because in his minute fight scene he showed better H2H skills than McClane ever has. Zan has the better screenfeats (until I see DH5), and thus wins /thread
Also, regarding the "ease" in which Van Zan harpooned dragons, it's a lot more dangerous to harpoon a flying dragon out in the open than it is to destroy a stationary helicopter from the massive safety of a tunnel. So Van is more impressive than McClane /proven
Look, I understand McClane is durable as all hell and Zan has relatively weak punches, but McClane doesn't have the H2H skills to defend and counter-attack in a fight. So all his durability does is make the time to KO him last a bit longer. But he will be KOed, because he doesn't have any observable skills to counter Van Zan. So as I said, it may take 5,000 punches to McClane's face to KO him, but Zan can and will do it, because McClane has never shown the H2H proficiency to counter. Just remember, every fight McClane gets in ends with him getting a melee weapon. He's never been able to take someone on in pure H2H and emerge the victor.
Zan wins, because he has blatant superior H2H skills than McClane
Originally posted by Lestov16
What the **** has McClane done in pure H2H to get the win over Van Zan?
*And killed an enire squad of seals by flicking his thumb causing a fire than started in his hand via a simple zippo, ending the trail in severing and burning all aboard the plane. Pure winnery.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Easy answer....
He broke someone's neck
After falling down a massive flight of stairs
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
and KO'd another guy with one shot,
You're citing McClane hitting the news reporter as a H2H feat? LOL
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
dropped another out of building being smart enough to beat Hans by simply undoing a rolex.* .*And killed an enire squad of seals by flicking his thumb causing a fire than started in his hand via a simple zippo, ending the trail in severing and burning all aboard the plane. Pure winnery.
😆 What the phuck? That's not even close to H2H combat. That's not even CQB. You have failed more than Eddie Mush.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
= WAY more than Van Zan the powerless weakling poser who cannot hurt anyone in the slightest, by screenfeats.
Yep, downplay all you want. You're just fooling yourself. Zan wins. Way better H2H feats including most importantly the ability to mount a defense, which McChump has not shown in DH1-4 at any point. Van Zan gets the victory here.
I'm seeing DH5 tonight. Let's see if McClane gets a good fistfight in there that doesn't end with him intervening with a melee weapon.
Originally posted by Lestov16
After falling down a [b]massive flight of stairs
AND....? 🙂
You're citing McClane hitting the news reporter as a H2H feat? LOL
Nope. Of course not. He never hit him, as you would know if you actually knew your Die Hard.
Holly hit him once, knocked out two of his teeth, (outdoing all Van Zan 'feats' by herself, therefore Holly is a harder puncher than Van Zan) he took out an injunction against her.
It was also a plot point in DH2, which we can now also assume that you haven't actually seen. (or your knowledge is that bad)
still true though. McClane wins. Its what he deos, unlike Van Zan
😆 What the phuck? That's not even close to H2H combat. That's not even CQB. You have failed more than Eddie Mush.
Yep, downplay all you want. You're just fooling yourself. Zan wins. Way better H2H feats including most importantly the ability to mount a defense, which McChump has not shown in DH1-4 at any point. Van Zan gets the victory here.
As proved above, no downplaying from THIS side... 🙂
I'm seeing DH5 tonight. Let's see if McClane gets a good fistfight in there that doesn't end with him intervening with a melee weapon.
Whether or not he does he (and Holly) both beat Van Zan.[/B]
Originally posted by Lestov16
You say that like McClane can take on a dragon level threat. He needed a massive tunnel for protection just to take out a helicopter. He'd piss his pants harpooning dragons like Zan does.
He needed help from Quinn. And probably still shat his pants and grunted and beat his chest to cover over for his over femininity in the manliness and lack of actual fight/punching ability stakes.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
AND....? 🙂
And it appears basic logic alludes you. That's not H2H, obviously
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nope. Of course not. He never hit him, as you would know if you actually knew your Die Hard.
Holly hit him once, knocked out two of his teeth, (outdoing all Van Zan 'feats' by herself, therefore Holly is a harder puncher than Van Zan) he took out an injunction against her.
It was also a plot point in DH2, which we can now also assume that you haven't actually seen. (or your knowledge is that bad)
That news reporter was far weaker than Quinn. Quinn took out Alpha Dragons. Stop strawmanning
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
still true though. McClane wins. Its what he deos, unlike Van Zan
So you admit that has nothing to do with H2H 😆 You silly trollboy. Van Zan pwns McClane in every category imaginable. Zan harpoons flying dragons out in the open. McClane needed a massive tunnel for protection just to take out a stationary helicopter 😂
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
As proved above, no downplaying from THIS side... 🙂
😆 Save the jokes for April 1st
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Whether or not he does he (and Holly) both beat Van Zan.
again, wait till April 1st, kid.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He needed help from Quinn.
As if McClane would have been able to harpoon that dragon by himself 😆 Stop with the strawmanning bullshit, Saddie
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
And probably still shat his pants and grunted and beat his chest to cover over for his over femininity in the manliness and lack of actual fight/punching ability stakes.
Originally posted by Lestov16
And it appears basic logic alludes you. That's not H2H, obviouslyExcept that it was.[quote]
That news reporter was far weaker than Quinn. Quinn took out Alpha Dragons. Stop strawmanning
Firstly that is your assumption that the news reporter was weaker. I say he was probably tougher. He almost certainly could have punched harder than Van Zan...
You act like VZ killed it h2h and did it with the sheer manliness of his nutsack. McClane could have done it too. And he probably wouldn't have needed Quinn either.[quote]
So you admit that has nothing to do with H2H 😆 You silly trollboy. Van Zan pwns McClane in every category imaginable. Zan harpoons flying dragons out in the open. McClane needed a massive tunnel for protection just to take out a stationary helicopter 😂
😆 Save the jokes for April 1st
again, wait till April 1st, kid.
See above, and if Im a kid, you're a spunk particle.
As if McClane would have been able to harpoon that dragon by himself 😆 Stop with the strawmanning bullshit, Saddie
^ McButthurt to the max 😆
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Firstly that is your assumption that the news reporter was weaker. I say he was probably tougher. He almost certainly could have punched harder than Van Zan...
You act like VZ killed it h2h and did it with the sheer manliness of his nutsack. McClane could have done it too. And he probably wouldn't have needed Quinn either.
😆 LOL You are the ABSOLUTE EPITOME of a hypocrite, talking about "assumptions" 😂
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Van Zan used the harpoon and had distractionary fodder as partial protection.
McClane wins so much its not even funny.
😆 You downplaying troll. "Partial protection"? McClane needed MASSIVE PROTECTION just to take on a stationary helicopter. Van rapes McClane like Uday Hussein
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Whereas everything you say here is a joke.See above, and if Im a kid, you're a spunk particle.
Yes indeed you are
. [/B]