Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Started by quanchi112112 pages

Originally posted by the ninjak
I'm not exaggerating with the sound of the punch either.
It sounded like a sledgehammer laced with leather hitting a cement wall.
If Zan got hit by such a shot he goes down like a sack of potatoes.

The rage-head is even juiced up enough to probably let John let one in to test his mettle. Which will prove to be his downfall.

McClane wins.

Prove Zan would go down like a sack of potatoes. I mean this is getting absurd the amount of Zan hate just because he was a dragon hunter.

I understand the hit would KO Zan, but can McClane tag him is the question.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I would love to agree with you quanchi, but Rob and Sadko are in the right in this case. I know Van Zan hunts dragons and all that good stuff, but none of that really correlates with a H2H fight a a human. Van Zan's never taken on a Dragon with his bare hands. Hell, didn't he need a helicopter? And when he did go head on with the dragon at the end, it simply ate him. On the other hand, McClane is not only a better fighter style-wise, but a can a massive beating, and then some, and keep going. Simply, Van Zan, for all his machsimo, doesn't have the feats to back him up in this fight. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
No. LESTY said malnourished. (see my sig)

And given the lack of food supplies en masse, due to Dragons ruining crops and mass transport of supplies being rare: I'd agree with him.

Childishly copying something I said validly, because you have nothing else apart from that and other forms of trollery left is a concession that will be accepted.

Malnourished is Bale's role in the Machinist. I would never say someone with Bale's physique was malnourished. Do you know the difference ? Their supplies were limited but you can clearly see he wasn't malnourished at the time of the fight.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I doubt Quinn is even in McClane's weight class

Originally posted by Lestov16
he doesn't hasn't displayed the durability to hang with McClane. That is what I'm trying to say. McClane will not be beaten as easily as Quinn. He has tanked A LOT of shit

BTW, and please forgive me for asking, but are you RJ's reincarnation? Your Sig/Avatar, "Concession Accepted", and your general posting demeanor seems strikingly similar to his. I'm just sayin

Originally posted by Lestov16
I understand the hit would KO Zan, but can McClane tag him is the question.
I have yet to see the hit but we have never seen anything ko Zan and given McClane's track record with punches I can't see how this overrides everything else we have seen in favor of this one punch. I also agree Zan isn't going to let him tag him with the full brunt of a punch either.

Originally posted by Lestov16
You think those hits are going to put McClane down?

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Originally posted by Lestov16
But McClane is going to fight back. And he isn't some punk ***** like Quinn. He actually can fight

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Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
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He has since changed his mind. Quit being immature.

Saddie, that post you quoted from me (and the one in your sig) are completely retarded. As I've stated, when I made that post, it had been quite a few years since I'd seen the DH films and I thought McClane had better H2H skills than he'd actually shown. and I utterly strawmanned with that dragon-bit.

McClane pwns here, unless McClane has been seeing a Karate instructor that we are just told about in DH5.

He was being immature in changing his mind just to troll.

As you are by calling him worng when he was right, before he changed his position due to butthurt and (and I quote: ) "rage".

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove Zan would go down like a sack of potatoes. I mean this is getting absurd the amount of Zan hate just because he was a dragon hunter.

Nobodies hating on Zan because he is a dragon hunter. If this was a fight between who can kill more dragons Zan would win this.
It's a H2H fight.
And in the new film McClane pulls off an Indy level punch on a larger man.
You guys wanted proof of McClane punching someone out and I gave it.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He was being immature in changing his mind just to troll.

As you are by calling him worng when he was right, before he changed his position due to butthurt and (and I quote: ) "rage".

he just explained the reasoning as to why he changed his mind. I tend to take people at their word unless I get a funny feeling like I did about you. You turned about to lie to me in the end. It isn't too late to change your ways.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Saddie, that post you quoted from me (and the one in your sig) are completely retarded. As I've stated, when I made that post, it had been quite a few years since I'd seen the DH films and I thought McClane had better H2H skills than he'd actually shown. and I utterly strawmanned with that dragon-bit.

McClane pwns here, unless McClane has been seeing a Karate instructor that we are just told about in DH5.

Oh really? 😂
Is it now so fresh in your mind that you thought McClane punched Thornberg, when Holly did, knocking out two of his teeth, showing herself to be a better puncher than your man-chosen out of butthurt rage, Van Zan? (An act showing Holly to be a better fighter than your idol Denton...) 😆
(IE You forgot all of DH 1 and 2?)

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Originally posted by quanchi112
he just explained the reasoning as to why he changed his mind. I tend to take people at their word unless I get a funny feeling like I did about you. You turned about to lie to me in the end. It isn't too late to change your ways.

I can prove you lied and are lying now.
Would you like me to show you up again?

Originally posted by the ninjak
Nobodies hating on Zan because he is a dragon hunter. If this was a fight between who can kill more dragons Zan would win this.
It's a H2H fight.
And in the new film McClane pulls off an Indy level punch on a larger man.
You guys wanted proof of McClane punching someone out and I gave it.
No one did. I have also seen Jonnie boy pummeled by a woman despite him having a gun on her. Her turning her backside to him disrespected him on a level unseen for an action star.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No one did. I have also seen Jonnie boy pummeled by a woman despite him having a gun on her. Her turning her backside to him disrespected him on a level unseen for an action star.

She would've messed up Zan as well.
If she was a highly trained operative, then that's exactly what she was. The film's enemies practically had ninjas on the team....

Let's not get sexist now. This ain't GI Joe. This is Die Hard. McClane still took her down.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No one did. I have also seen Jonnie boy pummeled by a woman despite him having a gun on her. Her turning her backside to him disrespected him on a level unseen for an action star.

Nah it was a tough chick (Surviving a head on ramming from the SUV was a good indicator that she was at near paranormal levels of durability.) And McClane KO'd her. And she would have Killed Van Zan.

Originally posted by the ninjak
She would've messed up Zan as well.
Hahahahahaha. She'd probably try to pleasure him while he'd just snap her neck and go after some dragons.