Originally posted by Lestov16
So that's [b]zero H2H wins for McClane (cheapshots, which comprise all of McClane's KO's, don't count) Zan wins, until McClane gets better fight scenes in DH6: Bruce Willis Wants his Paycheck Harder [/B]
Van Zan has zero H2H wins as per your rules as well, hitting and tossing a malnourished man around for a couple minutes isn't "winning a fight".
It's funny how you cry that KO'ing someone with a single hit just doesn't count, even in strict boxing rules, that's a win. Cry more.
I love how you all keep insisting that this kind of physique is "malnourished"
If that's malnourished, then lightweight boxers would be anorexic and Bruce Lee would be down-right starving to death.
Man-crushes over Bale's muscles do not supersede the theme of the film. I already mentioned the scene which tells us how the community was "starving".
But if you want to remove "malnourished" from what I said above, it really doesn't change much in regards to Van Zan having zero H2H wins, using the same nonsense rules Lestov applies to McClane.
Originally posted by Robtard
Man-crushes over Bale's muscles do not supersede the theme of the film. I already mentioned the scene which tells us how the community was "starving".But if you want to remove "malnourished" from what I said above, it really doesn't change much in regards to Van Zan having zero H2H wins, using the same nonsense rules Lestov applies to McClane.
Just because you don't have enough to eat to satisfy yourself, doesn't mean you're malnourished. The people in the camp looked forlorn and hungry, but not malnourished. Malnourished is someone who starves over a long period of time to the point where it shows in their features. Just about all of those people in the camp looked healthy enough. Not pampered, but healthy. And there's no way a malnourished person can get the physique of Bale. Besides, people who live a life of running around daily from dragons is sure to be in better shape than you give them credit for.
You probably just want to believe that Bale is malnourished simply to underplay Zan's h2h skills. Am I saying that Zan is a good h2h fighter? Hell no. Just that he was able to dominate his opponent in such a way that McClane has never shown.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Just because you don't have enough to eat to satisfy yourself, doesn't mean you're malnourished. The people in the camp looked forlorn and hungry, but not malnourished. Malnourished is someone who starves over a long period of time to the point where it shows in their features. Just about all of those people in the camp looked healthy enough. Not pampered, but healthy. And there's no way a malnourished person can get the physique of Bale. Besides, people who live a life of running around daily from dragons is sure to be in better shape than you give them credit for.You probably just want to believe that Bale is malnourished simply to underplay Zan's h2h skills. Am I saying that Zan is a good h2h fighter? Hell no. Just that he was able to dominate his opponent in such a way that McClane has never shown.
The film > what you believe. "Starving" was implicitly said in that scene and why those men risked their lives and the crop to go out early.
http://www.learnersdictionary.com/search/malnourished
Again. The film > what you believe. But as I said, if you want to remove "malnourished", it changes nothing applying the same clown-tactics that McClane is subjugated to.
Really now? I'd say KO'ing someone in one punch is more "dominating" than tossing a guy around and punching him a bit only to have him ready and willing to fight a moment later.
Same goes for hammer-punching someone into nigh unconsciousness and then finishing the deal via a toss.
Might as well add brawling with a rather large US Special Forces guy and then kicking him into a jet engine is more "dominating" than what Van Zan did.
Originally posted by Lestov16
So that's [b]zero H2H wins for McClane (cheapshots, which comprise all of McClane's KO's, don't count) Zan wins, until McClane gets better fight scenes in DH6: Bruce Willis Wants his Paycheck Harder [/B]
Links already been provided to two h2h victories in DH5, (including one where he beats a guy up who had a machine gun on him)..
Yet you do what a literal ignoruamus does best.... ignoring it.
It doesn't really matter how much you choose to delude yourself out of deep butthurt, everyone else knows. And everyone else knows you are a fool who cannot handle the truth...
Cry on.. 😮💨
Originally posted by FrothByteIn fairness to Rob's grossly overweight slab he refers to as his body he is malnourished. But seriously rob is just a biased fool who uses words he doesn't know the meaning of.
Just because you don't have enough to eat to satisfy yourself, doesn't mean you're malnourished. The people in the camp looked forlorn and hungry, but not malnourished. Malnourished is someone who starves over a long period of time to the point where it shows in their features. Just about all of those people in the camp looked healthy enough. Not pampered, but healthy. And there's no way a malnourished person can get the physique of Bale. Besides, people who live a life of running around daily from dragons is sure to be in better shape than you give them credit for.You probably just want to believe that Bale is malnourished simply to underplay Zan's h2h skills. Am I saying that Zan is a good h2h fighter? Hell no. Just that he was able to dominate his opponent in such a way that McClane has never shown.
Originally posted by FrothByte
You probably just want to believe that Bale is malnourished simply to underplay Zan's h2h skills. Am I saying that Zan is a good h2h fighter? Hell no. Just that he was able to dominate his opponent in such a way that McClane has never shown.
Finally! Logic! 🙂
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Links already been provided to two h2h victories in DH5, (including one where he beats a guy up who had a machine gun on him)..
You mean the guy he cheapshotted when the assailant thought he was bound by handcuffs? Again, it was a cheapshot and doesn't count towards any actual H2H win. Go on, cry more because your butt bud McClane is a bytch in H2H.
Originally posted by Lestov16Frothbyte just effectively kicked the fanboys in the nards.
Finally! Logic! 🙂You mean the guy he cheapshotted when the assailant thought he was bound by handcuffs? Again, it was a [b]cheapshot
and doesn't count towards any actual H2H win. Go on, cry more because your butt bud McClane is a bytch in H2H. [/B]
Originally posted by Lestov16
You mean the guy he cheapshotted when the assailant thought he was bound by handcuffs? Again, it was a [b]cheapshot and doesn't count towards any actual H2H win. Go on, cry more because your butt bud McClane is a bytch in H2H. [/B]
You really should watch DH5 before you speak from a position of knowing. Unless you like consistently coming off as an ignorant?
Until then, do tell me which "h2h wins" does Van Zan have under his belt?
Originally posted by Lestov16
Which do McClane have under his belt?
Lol, more dodgy dancing. But those were pointed out several times now and you decided they don't count under your own set of rules.
So applying those same 'fight rules' you apply to McClane, which "H2H wins" does Van Zan have under his belt? How do his opponents compare to McClane's? Strength, speed, skill, durability etc.
His pointless questions have all been answered. Nowhere left to hide behind that old tactic.
McClane feats posted in the past you 've ignored:
Karl's brother Vs McClane (you tried to deny McClane victory because stairs were involved[/i], as a brainless, butthurt manchild would.)
Karl Vs McClane: Despite each being uber tough, McClane winning AFTER having been shot in the encounter, and McClane clearly beating the f**k out of him, you cried about McClane's finishing move...
He one shots one of Han's guys just before the confrontation with Hans... ignored.
Beats Ninja Chick, in 4.0 after he KO'd her, and she failed to kill him and he killed her...... You then cried about the expedient way in which McClane cleared up the matter AFTER it was shown that he took her out and could have kiled her at anytime when she was sparked out... imitating the brain dead argument RJ used to make out of lack of your own initiative.
Die Hard 5: McClane shown one shotting an enraged Russian urban mobster type AFTER the guy hit McClane with his car, and having survived a car crash that would have killed most..
You then cry that he "cheap shotted the guy" which firstly is blatantly untrue as the guy squared up for a fight with McClane...McClane hooked him first fair and square.
And secondly, you cried trying to say that he was a bystandaer when he clearly wasn't. Thridly, you tried to ignore the fact that McClane hooks and KO's in one shot WAY faster and harder than ANYTHING Van Zan has given out, taken or being shown able to avoid. But still the butthurt tears or rage kept a coming....
Later H2H thrashes a top level Russian secret service type gangster who had a machine gun on McClane at the time! )
McClane has fought some of the hardest guys around and got through, often messily... agiainst Mercs, Cops, Seals, Marines, Secret service guys, freaks of nature...hes done it all and is gonna make Die Hard 6)
Yet you cry ignorantly, having never even seen the movie.
His punches sound like bags of cement slapping an elephant, and he damages opponents, unlike Van Zan..
So, until you provide us with evidence of Van Zan doing anything else other than delivering really slow slap-level punches that do no damage to their opponent, and displaying no speed or real fight ability other than grunting and posing, McClane wins.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
His pointless questions have all been answered. Nowhere left to hide behind that old tactic.McClane feats posted in the past you 've ignored:
Karl's brother Vs McClane (you tried to deny McClane victory because stairs were involved[/i], as a brainless, butthurt manchild would.)
Karl Vs McClane: Despite each being uber tough, McClane winning AFTER having been shot in the encounter, and McClane clearly beating the f**k out of him, you cried about McClane's finishing move...
He one shots one of Han's guys just before the confrontation with Hans... ignored.
Beats Ninja Chick, in 4.0 after he KO'd her, and she failed to kill him and he killed her...... You then cried about the expedient way in which McClane cleared up the matter AFTER it was shown that he took her out and could have kiled her at anytime when she was sparked out... imitating the brain dead argument RJ used to make out of lack of your own initiative.
Die Hard 5: McClane shown one shotting an enraged Russian urban mobster type AFTER the guy hit McClane with his car, and having survived a car crash that would have killed most..
You then cry that he "cheap shotted the guy" which firstly is blatantly untrue as the guy squared up for a fight with McClane...McClane hooked him first fair and square.And secondly, you cried trying to say that he was a bystandaer when he clearly wasn't. Thridly, you tried to ignore the fact that McClane hooks and KO's in one shot WAY faster and harder than ANYTHING Van Zan has given out, taken or being shown able to avoid. But still the butthurt tears or rage kept a coming....
Later H2H thrashes a top level Russian secret service type gangster who had a machine gun on McClane at the time!
McClane has fought some of the hardest guys around and got through, often messily... agiainst Mercs, Cops, Seals, Marines, Secret service guys, freaks of nature...hes done it all and is gonna make Die Hard 6)
Yet you cry ignorantly, having never even seen the movie.
His punches sound like bags of cement slapping an elephant, and he damages opponents, unlike Van Zan..
[b]So, until you provide us with evidence of Van Zan doing anything else other than delivering really slow slap-level punches that do no damage to their opponent, and displaying no speed or real fight ability other than grunting and posing, McClane wins.
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Overhyping McClane's cheapshots does nothing. Until he gets a legit H2H win, he loses. And I love how you never tend to mention the utter ass kicking Stuart put on him in your little list there 😂
(then again, knowing you Saddie, you'll probably troll and be like "MCKLANE KILLZED HIM WIT A ZIPPO!!!", even though that has no context in what we are discussing 😂 )
^lol at "just because stairs were involved" 😆
No overhyping required.Screenfeats show it all.
(You on the otherhand keep 'underhyping', judging only by the most 'negative'/lesser feats and sayign thats the best McClane did.. Not very scientific. And it shows the butthurt bias within you. I know you have a thing about feeling you have to have large amounts of posts, and see it as a way to dominate somehow, but filling them with empty idiocy isn't the way to go. Remember: Quality over quantity.)
He got legit wins, causing you to dance, cry and wank further. You've not seen one of the movies you claim knowledge on. Therefore your opinion means nothing whatsoever. Wasnt an utter asskicking. And utter asskicking is when no shots are returned. McClane damaged Stuart. And Stuart would have killed Van Zan in about 2 seconds.
Either way you look at all of this:
McClane beats Van Zan, cause he has H2H wins some in one punch, and Van Zan couldn't even win against someone who was malnourished, with all his best shots.
McClane wins, whatever ill informed crying strawmannery you, a man 'debating' from a position of willful ignorance, retort with.
