Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Originally posted by quanchi112
McClane cannot be viewed as an alpha male after she got through with him and disrespected him on all levels. I mean the guy held a weapon on her and she still beat his ass. She turned her back effectively castrating his movie balls. Zan laughs off alpha males punches while McClane can't even beat a woman in a fair fight.

Incorrect, in one way:He KO'd her then killed her.

Correct in another: 'Alpha Male' implies being human still.
Screenfeats now disagree. Transcended the normal bounds constanly in the last movie. Zan is a rightful laughing stock. Hence your rage.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They cannot escape that scene no matter how hard they try. To get smoked by a woman you had a gun on in your own movie and then for her to just ignore you like that. Epic failure. McClane is such a girly man. 😂

I bet sadako would strike a girl when she turned around like his hero.

McClane wins all day everyday, hence your repeated potty filling.

Thank you for the rage confirmation. Good to know you know you lost again.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Quan, Saddie's a trolling idiot who thinks McClane cheapshotting a bystander means he has the H2H skill to take on Frank Martin. Trying to introduce logic into Saddie's 1/∞ brain cell is like trying to flick a lighter in the Mariana Trench.

More tears, rage and admissions of loss...? Mmmm lovely 🙂
You are to intellect what Justin Bieber is to Thrash Metal.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
cheapshot (n): the act of not allowing an obviously hostile opponent a free punch

...apparently

Originally posted by Lestov16
It's even worse than that. [b]He was in back of her and thus had a massive advantage on her, and she still disarmed and kicked his ass. Any pansy-KO McClane did (and is was pansy, considering she got back up and kicked his ass about 20 seconds after, again while he was looking right at her) was due to him cheapshotting her, and advantage he only got because Lihn was an utter retard. So McClane got his ass kicked by a moron whom he had at his complete mercy 😆 [/B]

Yeah, McClane should have let her get back to killing Matthew and destroying the Eastern Seaboard making it glow for the next 50,000 years, after she attacked him, right...? 🙄
McClane tried the relatively chivalrous approach until her cheap shotting got old and it was quite rightly "enough of this kung fu shit" time, and he won against a dirty fighter with dirty fighting.
"As needs must". He won and thats what all those grains of sand in your knickers, collectively known as the Sahara are...

But hey more dumbdumb talk from an extremely butthurt little loser who has wasted all that time raging away in vain, only to be proven by screenfeats (many of which he hasn't even seen in DH5) instead of whatever random dribble in found collecting in his baby bib.

McClane wins, and it clearly hurts you in the arse SOOOOOO bad.
(And you keep coming back for more) 😂
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WTF are you talking about? Eastern Seaboard got shut down anyway, so McChump failed there, and what do you mean "glowing"? This wasn't a Habib Marwan plot to melt down reactors. They were going for the US's financial data at Woodlawn, which the climax was centered on. You're obviously a delusional idiot who hasn't even seen the DH films. I guess you just obsess over bald heads naturally, Saddie 😆

Anyways, McClane's best H2H feat to date was cheapshotting a bystander. Quinn was a beast which is why he didn't go down, whereas McClane's just a mewling quim who gets disarmed even when he has his gun trained on the back of the person's head 😆 What a pathetic loser. I can see why you admire him so much, Saddieboy 😂

Not the nuclear reactors.
The records were kept and not firesaled.

Ergo that last post eminated again from the back of your pants.

As for the rest, Ragegirl, all discounted and disproved by actual screenfeats and not just your opinion..

Still rage, cry, obsess about and fixate on me more. It won't make you right, but if it helps you to fixate on me and send me all your energy/time, then fair enough, you lose in life as much as you do on the board. Still flattering anyway...

McClane also beasts and KOs a heavily armed armed Russian secret service guy who had a machine gun on him too, in the ballroom scene, BTW...

Guess he was just a bystander too, right...?
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This has gone too far.

I understand it's a matter of pride and shits and giggles now but seriously.

McClane beats Zan to a pulp. Only 2 people think otherwise and they are in it for the long haul.
Zan has no luck feats.
He has no physical strike feats that matter compared to McClanes.
He is not as resourceful as McClane.

He loses this fight on every level. Spin your apparent realisations all you want.
McClane beats him down.

Lestov.. How you compare this guy to Bauer is beyond me.
This is a mockery, personally.

Originally posted by the ninjak
This has gone too far.

I understand it's a matter of pride and shits and giggles now but seriously.

McClane beats Zan to a pulp. Only 2 people think otherwise and they are in it for the long haul.
Zan has no luck feats.
He has no physical strike feats that matter compared to McClanes.
He is not as resourceful as McClane.

He loses this fight on every level. Spin your apparent realisations all you want.
McClane beats him down.

Lestov.. How you compare this guy to Bauer is beyond me.
This is a mockery, personally.

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Savagely.

Van Zan no has no stamina feats, (he grunts and groans with everything she does)

No damage soak feats that are even fractionally comparable.

No reaction speed.

No ability to command and defy physics at will.

No ability to punch fast and impactfully.

No driving feats that even come close.

No kill numbers feats against people or in combat.

Doesn't have McClane's wits or sharpness.

Doesn't have McClane's knack for escaping certain death situations.

And only one dragon harpooned with a cheap shot whilst the dragon was distracted.

And on top of this his fans are idiots.

Not even in the same universe as McClane.
Only a raving, stark staring mad-though-butthurt rage lunatic would troll by starting a thread like this...

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Incorrect, in one way:He KO'd her then killed her.

Correct in another: 'Alpha Male' implies being human still.
Screenfeats now disagree. Transcended the normal bounds constanly in the last movie. Zan is a rightful laughing stock. Hence your rage.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Dont be silly, I'd take you out while you were facing me, Quimchi. 😛
I bet you spend all your time boring people and being laughed at for not being able to fight or think properly at all, and swimming in faeces.....like your hero.

McClane wins all day everyday, hence your repeated potty filling.

Thank you for the rage confirmation. Good to know you know you lost again.

fearing death only hinders what you do. If McClane feared death he wouldnt of done all the stupid shit he did. Van Zan has 1 movie to go off of while McClane has 5 now. He has been hit by bigger and stronger guys then Van Zan and still won the fight.

I have not seen a single Vs thread with McClane in it that you say McClane wins. They might be Suping Mcclane up to win but your doing all you can to bash him down.

My McClane vs Frank Martin(Transporter) is an actual one that is hard to determine but this one is easily McClane because it is a rational victory.

The fact Van Zan hunted dragons has nothing to do with a fight against a human. Its totally different strategy. Van Zan didnt go against a Dragon with his bare hands he used group tactics and large weapons. This is one on one no weapons.

I honestly feel that McClane would win this.

Scarlet, can you post the fight scene where McClane showed he has better H2H skill than Zan? Just like the Transporter thread, you think McClane wins here purely on durability, when that's not going to cut it.

No, McClane was good in his fight too. And at least it only took him one punch, as opposed to five.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Scarlet, can you post the fight scene where McClane showed he has better H2H skill than Zan? Just like the Transporter thread, you think McClane wins here purely on durability, when that's not going to cut it.

Shes doesn't have to... cause we ALL know that every single fight he had was better than a man who fought a wuss, and through very very slow, weak punches that didnt damage his opponent ever, leaving him mouthing off about killing Van Zan.

You seriously may as well have cried indignantly demanding that she post a clip of McClane holding a gun cause "it never happened." 🙄

You posted you own clip in the HP Military thread then denied what it cointained, so allegic to fact and evidence are you. lol

Mcclane punchs with severe force, as you can hear by his shots and that he drops guys, against much much better fighters than Quim from Reign of Fire.

Cry away: You're not convincing anyone. And you chosen tactricy is obviously tantamount to admission of loss... 😮‍💨

Van Zan wins until the McClane side can post a scene where he shows competency in H2H.

Don't be silly:

You've never once posted anything with anything resembling fight effectiveness from Van Zan.

You've not even seen Die Hard 5 yet you rage against it like it's a machine and your name is Zach..

You cry and ignore what is posted, lying about it and misrepresenting, downplaying way beyond the pail every time.

McClane feats posted in the past you 've ignored:
Karl's brother Vs McClane (you tried to deny McClane victory because stairs were involved[/i], as a brainless, butthurt manchild would.)

Karl Vs McClane: Despite each being uber tough, McClane winning AFTER having been shot in the encounter, and McClane clearly beating the f**k out of him, you cried about McClane's finishing move...
He one shots one of Han's guys just before the confrontation with Hans... ignored.

Beats Ninja Chick, in 4.0 after he KO'd her, and she failed to kill him and he killed her...... You then cried about the expedient way in which McClane cleared up the matter AFTER it was shown that he took her out and could have kiled her at anytime when she was sparked out... imitating the brain dead argument RJ used to make out of lack of your own initiative.

Die Hard 5: McClane shown one shotting an enraged Russian urban mobster type AFTER the guy hit McClane with his car, and having survived a car crash that would have killed most..
You then cry that he "cheap shotted the guy" which firstly is blatantly untrue as the guy squared up for a fight with McClane...McClane hooked him first fair and square.
And secondly, you cried trying to say that he was a bystandaer when he clearly wasn't. Thridly, you tried to ignore the fact that McClane hooks and KO's in one shot WAY faster and harder than ANYTHING Van Zan has given out, taken or being shown able to avoid. But still the butthurt tears or rage kept a coming....

Later H2H thrashes a top level Russian secret service type gangster who had a machine gun on McClane at the time! )
McClane has fought some of the hardest guys around and got through, often messily... agiainst Mercs, Cops, Seals, Marines, Secret service guys, freaks of nature...hes done it all and is gonna make Die Hard 6)
Yet you cry ignorantly, having never even seen the movie.

His punches sound like bags of cement slapping an elephant, and he damages opponents, unlike Van Zan..

So, until you provide us with evidence of Van Zan doing anything else other than delivering really slow slap-level punches that do no damage to their opponent, and displaying no speed or real fight ability other than grunting and posing, McClane wins.

And 'til then, your title of "Lestov: Boy wonder of butthurt" is utterly safe and secure.

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Originally posted by Scarlet Fox
fearing death only hinders what you do. If McClane feared death he wouldnt of done all the stupid shit he did. Van Zan has 1 movie to go off of while McClane has 5 now. He has been hit by bigger and stronger guys then Van Zan and still won the fight.

I have not seen a single Vs thread with McClane in it that you say McClane wins. They might be Suping Mcclane up to win but your doing all you can to bash him down.

My McClane vs Frank Martin(Transporter) is an actual one that is hard to determine but this one is easily McClane because it is a rational victory.

The fact Van Zan hunted dragons has nothing to do with a fight against a human. Its totally different strategy. Van Zan didnt go against a Dragon with his bare hands he used group tactics and large weapons. This is one on one no weapons.

I honestly feel that McClane would win this.

You are honestly wrong. It's ok I will teach you the ways of kmc.

Originally posted by Lestov16

It may seem I bash McClane, but I don't.

Originally posted by Robtard

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