Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Originally posted by Lestov16
McClane is a chump in H2H and this is an undeniable fact. Keep ignoring that mcclane has struggled in h2h against far less than Zan. In dh4 he got overpowered by some chump mook and could only subdue him by shooting him in the foot. And again you have no proof the bystander in DH5 was near Van Zan or Quinn's level, so your point there is moot. Zan wins 6.5/10 because McClane has no fight scenes showing he can outmaneuver Van.

I've already listed multiple McClane fights that are better than having the advantage against an average person.

Originally posted by Lestov16
McClane is a chump in H2H and this is an undeniable fact. Keep ignoring that mcclane has struggled in h2h against far less than Zan. In dh4 he got overpowered by some chump mook and could only subdue him by shooting him in the foot. And again you have no proof the bystander in DH5 was near Van Zan or Quinn's level, so your point there is moot. Zan wins 6.5/10 because McClane has no fight scenes showing he can outmaneuver Van.

You keep bringing this up without ever quantifying it.

What exactly are Van Zan's and Quinn's "levels"? Considering the only fight we ever see them in is against each other, it's nothing more than a few blows and it's broken up.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
...says the man who hasn't seen DH5 and therefore has no idea what he is talking about. Youve shown no scenes that prove Mcclane would HAVE to out manuever Van Zan.

(Since he out-punches, out-powers, out-speeds, out-durabilities, out-staminas, out-improvises and out-thinks the laughing stock that is Van Zan)

Zan wins. Higher portrayal than a guy who relies on guns stupidity to save him from his enemies fists.

You regularly selectively ignore and downplay them, Van Zan fangirl.

Keep ignoring DH5... we know that you do, because it finishes the fly unzipping and pisses all over your butthurt rubbish.

Originally posted by Robtard
You keep bringing this up without ever quantifying it.

What exactly are Van Zan's and Quinn's "levels"? Considering the only fight we ever see them in is against each other, it's nothing more than a few blows and it's broken up.

LOL She totally ducked you again on this...

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You regularly selectively ignore and downplay them, Van Zan fangirl.

Keep ignoring DH5... we know that you do, because it finishes the fly unzipping and pisses all over your butthurt rubbish.

Zan wins. Just too much for the man who needs protection from women.

Brilliant. You'll then qualify be able to comment on it and McClane then, won't you..

Wow, thought you were talking about McClane for a split second, then came the line about needing protection from women, proving that thought to be wrong...

Cry, lie and downplay in rage and butthurt all you want. 🙂
Every time you do it its an admission of rage/loss.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Brilliant. You'll then qualify be able to comment on it and McClane then, won't you..

Wow, thought you were talking about McClane for a split second, then came the line about needing protection from women, proving that thought to be wrong...

Cry, lie and downplay in rage and butthurt all you want. 🙂
Every time you do it its an admission of rage/loss.

You both so maaaaaaaaaaad.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
You both so maaaaaaaaaaad.

Him kicking the asses of guys better than Matthew Imkindagay throughout 4 movies, that.

Originally posted by Ke73ss1ler
Him kicking the asses of guys better than Matthew Imkindagay throughout 4 movies, that.

Originally posted by Ke73ss1ler
Him kicking the asses of guys better than Matthew Imkindagay throughout 4 movies, that.

Go ahead.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
Name one person Mac fought H2H and beat H2H, start to finish, with no weapons and won.

Go ahead.

Off the top of my head:

-J.J.'s father on the plane. They scuffed, ended when McClane kicked him in the face and the guy fell into the engine.

-Ninja-girl, McClane KO'd her first via punches to the face and body-throw.

-Merc in DH4, died via broken neck

-Angry Russian guy in DH5. Went down via punch to the face.

Now name me one person Zan Van "fought H2H and beat H2H, start to finish"?

Rob's pissed. 😂

Originally posted by Robtard
Off the top of my head:

-J.J.'s father on the plane. They scuffed, ended when McClane kicked him in the face and the guy fell into the engine.

-Ninja-girl, McClane KO'd her first via punches to the face and body-throw.

-Merc in DH4, died via broken neck

-Angry Russian guy in DH5. Went down via punch to the face.

Now name me one person Zan Van "fought H2H and beat H2H, start to finish"?

That's one.

No, she won the H2H battle.

Right.

That's 3.

That it?

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
That's one.

No, she won the H2H battle.

Right.

That's 3.

That it?

How is being KO'd first winning a fight? We've gone through this many times.

That's 4

Even going with only 3, that's 3 more than Van Zan, who has 0 by these rules. Maths tells us 3 > 0.

Originally posted by Robtard
How is being KO'd first winning a fight? We've gone through this many times.

That's 4

Even going with only 3, that's 3 more than Van Zan, who has 0 by these rules. Maths tells us 3 > 0.

😂

Originally posted by Robtard
How is being KO'd first winning a fight? We've gone through this many times.

That's 4

Even going with only 3, that's 3 more than Van Zan, who has 0 by these rules. Maths tells us 3 > 0.

She got up and kicked him out a window. BFR for the win. He could not get the job done H2H so he got a damn Explorer.

Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
She got up and kicked him out a window. BFR for the win. He could not get the job done H2H so he got a damn Explorer.

That was after he let her live while unconscious.

Anyhow, maths is still there, 4 > 0 and 3 > 0. Unless you have something for Van Zan?