Originally posted by RobtardHe has more feats since he's been in more movies. He also has received more ass beatings. Zan has a higher average and a greater portrayal than the guy who gets worked by a woman. Zan wins. Now get the hell out of zan's thread you creampuff.
Sad, sad, clown. It's all you have left.McClane still wins due to better feats. Deal.
Originally posted by Silent MasterHe also had other characters help, guns, and stupidity on their parts to survive. There are no guns here.
It's funny how Zan is basically being given "A list" skill based on a fight with an average person, while McClane's skill is being laughed at because he had trouble against(but still won) terrorists, soldiers and trained fighters.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He has more feats since he's been in more movies. He also has received more ass beatings. Zan has a higher average and a greater portrayal than the guy who gets worked by a woman. Zan wins. Now get the hell out of zan's thread you creampuff.
Talking out of your ass again. Van Zan did nothing but punch around an untrained guy for a couple minutes. McClane kills people in h2h fights. Killing > punching someone around a bit. Why are we back to this? You conceded to SilentMaster on that.
This thread has officially surpassed the Batman vs John McClane thread.
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Originally posted by Impediment
This thread has officially surpassed the Batman vs John McClane thread.facepalm
In length, stupidity or both?
Originally posted by RobtardMcClane usually kills them by using a weapon or the person acting stupid. I did no such thing. Snakeeyes asked the question in terms of it being in a total vacuum devoid of the circumstances and the context of how it occurred in the die hard films. In short he is dishonest and his premise is flawed due to him ignoring the context of said feats and the sheer totality of McClane's hand to hand fights.
Talking out of your ass again. Van Zan did nothing but punch around an untrained guy for a couple minutes. McClane kills people in h2h fights. Killing > punching someone around a bit. Why are we back to this? You conceded to SilentMaster on that.
Originally posted by ImpedimentRemember Batman versus Swagger?
This thread has officially surpassed the Batman vs John McClane thread.facepalm
Originally posted by quanchi112
Due to people pulling Zan off of him.
Which makes a change from you pulling him off, eh..?
McClane clearly and obviously wins despite the best (and totally laughable) efforts of your post count fixated troll campaign due to Van Zan having no actual feats that even come close to McClane's, H2H, durability, speed, smarts or otherwise..
McClane, Holly, John Junior and Argylle all have superior feats to Van Zan. They have all caused actually damage to their opponents by one shotting.
Van Zan couldn't even do damage with a headbutt, and 5 cheap shots when he sat on his opponents arms!! (slapping away ineffectively with slow undamaging shots whilst posing).
This is why you cannot be taken seriously: All screenfeats are laughably in Mcclanes favour, and even the favour of his wife, son and chaffeur against Van Zan.
Its a clear McStomp LOLZ
Originally posted by Silent Master
He pulled the guy's head through the wall and snapped his neck, it's a HTH and far better than anything Zan has ever done.
Fcat. That they threw their rattle out of the pram and shat their knickers again is no surprise...they tried to say that the Stairs beat up Karl's brother breaking his neck like that too...
If Mcclane one day punches clean through a guy who Mcclane has on the floor's face, fist emerging on the other side, that won't count either to them because "gravity did it" somehow.
That is what happens when people who clearly have their brains in their arse are allowed to post on the internet.
To them, Alderaan thrashed that death star superlaser and called it a cissy noob.
As Robtard correctly points out; downplay IS all they have.
Therefore they are very easily dismissable.
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Originally posted by Sadako of GirthHigher average in that of completely dominating the hero of the film. McClane is a punching bag. Don't worry he is going to get punched. A lot. Zan wins.
Which makes a change from you pulling him off, eh..?McClane clearly and obviously wins despite the best (and totally laughable) efforts of your post count fixated troll campaign due to Van Zan having no actual feats that even come close to McClane's, H2H, durability, speed, smarts or otherwise..
McClane, Holly, John Junior and Argylle all have superior feats to Van Zan. They have all caused actually damage to their opponents by one shotting.
Van Zan couldn't even do damage with a headbutt, and 5 cheap shots when he sat on his opponents arms!! (slapping away ineffectively with slow undamaging shots whilst posing).
This is why you cannot be taken seriously: All screenfeats are laughably in Mcclanes favour, and even the favour of his wife, son and chaffeur against Van Zan.
Its a clear McStomp LOLZ
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthZan isn't koing him. He will not stop until he is ko'd. You really need to watch the movie where they state what's in character for Zan when he gets into a fight. Next thing you will tell me is since he hasn't died that he can't die. Fanboy.
Yup.Qunachi. Punching bag or not: McClane can take it from WAY harder hitting guys than girlyboy Van Zan, and has NEVER been KO'd...and can lay Van Zan out with one lightning fast hook too, these days.. so your 'points' really are are about as irrelevant and moot as can possibly be.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Yup.Qunachi. Punching bag or not: McClane can take it from WAY harder hitting guys than girlyboy Van Zan, and has NEVER been KO'd...and can lay Van Zan out with one lightning fast hook too, these days.. so your 'points' really are are about as irrelevant and moot as can possibly be.
McClane is a chump in H2H and this is an undeniable fact. Keep ignoring that mcclane has struggled in h2h against far less than Zan. In dh4 he got overpowered by some chump mook and could only subdue him by shooting him in the foot. And again you have no proof the bystander in DH5 was near Van Zan or Quinn's level, so your point there is moot. Zan wins 6.5/10 because McClane has no fight scenes showing he can outmaneuver Van.
...says the man who hasn't seen DH5 and therefore has no idea what he is talking about. Youve shown no scenes that prove Mcclane would HAVE to out manuever Van Zan.
(Since he out-punches, out-powers, out-speeds, out-durabilities, out-staminas, out-improvises and out-thinks the laughing stock that is Van Zan)