Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Started by Lestov16112 pages

For me this all comes down to who has the better fighting style. Originally I was backing McClane with both superior fighting style and durability, but I am beginning to reconsider. And indeed, if McClane does have the sub-par fighting style (and of course, his ingenuity/luck will not play a factor in this fight), then, as quanchi said, McClane will just take a beating until he's knocked into unconsciousness. I need to see some more of McClane's fights

Originally posted by quanchi112

The dragon was defeated so his goal was reached. McClane wouldn't have fared any better.

Someone else did it.

McClane's antics took down an F-35 Lightning II, so yeah, he likely would have.

Originally posted by Lestov16
For me this all comes down to who has the better fighting style. Originally I was backing McClane with both superior fighting style and durability, but I am beginning to reconsider. And indeed, if McClane does have the sub-par fighting style (and of course, his ingenuity/luck will not play a factor in this fight), then, as quanchi said, McClane will just take a beating until he's knocked into unconsciousness. I need to see some more of McClane's fights

Van Zan had better fighting style? He grabbed, head-butted and push,then threw some basic punches that packed little heat.

McClane isn't a fancy fighter either, he just gets the job done.

Durability? McClane hands down, four movies worth of it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Van Zan had better fighting style? He grabbed, head-butted and push,then threw some basic punches that packed little heat.

McClane isn't a fancy fighter either, he just gets the job done.

But Van Zan does too. That's why I asked for some clips of McClane in H2H. I need to compare.

Originally posted by Robtard
Someone else did it.

McClane's antics took down an F-35 Lightning II, so yeah, he likely would have.

Yes, and if it wasn't for Zan Quinn would have never understood the dragon's weakness or been in the situation.

Originally posted by Lestov16
But Van Zan does too. That's why I asked for some clips of McClane in H2H. I need to compare.

There was some posted on page 6. iirc.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, and if it wasn't for Zan Quinn would have never understood the dragon's weakness or been in the situation.

Someone else did the job, so Van Zan is a better consultant than fighter, by movie-feats.

Originally posted by Robtard
Someone else did the job, so Van Zan is a better consultant than fighter, by movie-feats.
Due to being in the right situation and Zan gave his life for the cause. No greater sacrifice can be made.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Due to being in the right situation and Zan gave his life for the cause. No greater sacrifice can be made.

That's what all terrorists say

Zan=Terrorist

McClane>Terrorists

Originally posted by Lestov16
That's what all terrorists say

Zan=Terrorist

McClane>Terrorists

/thread

Originally posted by Lestov16
That's what all terrorists say

Zan=Terrorist

McClane>Terrorists

Zan was a righteous warrior expelling the great serpent to say otherwise is blasphemy.

Oh he was "expelling the great serpent" alright... 😖hifty:

But whilst he was jerking himself into oblivion over his own lady-slap boy like manner, McClane was dominating utterly in the all-conquering badassery stakes.

🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Zan was a righteous warrior expelling the great serpent to say otherwise is blasphemy.

Don't make me contact the FBI CTD....

Originally posted by Lestov16
Don't make me contact the FBI CTD....
In all seriousness McClane would probably be his errand boy if the two met.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In all seriousness McClane would probably be his errand boy if the two met.

In all seriousness, McClane would arrest him and Van Zan would be bottom-boy in the local penitentiary.

Bet you he can squeal like a pig pretty well too.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In all seriousness McClane would probably be his errand boy if the two met.

That's the thing. I need to see McClane in a good H2H match. Like I said above, if McClane has sub-par fighting skills, then he will be beaten into unconsciousness because his durability will wear out eventually. If he does have the better fighting style however, added to his durability he will rock Zan's sh*t just like Zan rocked Quinn

Yes ...on an errand to beat all the guys that would quite naturally be beating the living piss out of lilly punching Van Zan...

(As seen in 'Apocalypse now' and 'Apocalypse now (redux)', errand boys, particularly ones sent to pick up the cheque, are the ones doing the ass kicking and name taking.)

....and he'd do that and then film 3 badassery packed sequels.

Originally posted by Lestov16
That's the thing. I need to see McClane in a good H2H match. Like I said above, if McClane has sub-par fighting skills, then he will be beaten into unconsciousness because his durability will wear out eventually. If he does have the better fighting style however, added to his durability he will rock Zan's sh*t just like Zan rocked Quinn

Well, how about rewatching the following movies...?

Die Hard (1988) (McClane Vs Karl)

Die Hard 2: Die Harder (1990) (McClane vs various Marines)

Die Hard with a vengence (1995) (McClane vs Lurch)

Die Hard 4.0 (2007) (McClane vs Hamster dude and Asian Chick)

Originally posted by Lestov16
That's the thing. I need to see McClane in a good H2H match. Like I said above, if McClane has sub-par fighting skills, then he will be beaten into unconsciousness because his durability will wear out eventually. If he does have the better fighting style however, added to his durability he will rock Zan's sh*t just like Zan rocked Quinn

He can fight at least as well as Van Zan, arguably better, considering he's faced off against high-end mercenaries and not average Quinn.

Another thing, look how winded Van Zan was after throwing a few hits, his stamina is shit. So he's got average fighting skills, cotton-fist and shit stamina. That's not defeating McDurability.

Indeed.

Robtard speaketh the truth.