Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Originally posted by Robtard
Him showing average fighting skill and having no apparent fighting background/training. Quinn was an average dude and decent at rallying people.

A castle with some people in it is not a country.

You're still wrong, Rocky won more than he lost. Crying won't change what's captured on film. Film > Your thoughts

They represented England and were organized and had their own crops so yes they represented england.

I never said Rocky didn't win more than lost but you said he only lost once which is blatantly untrue.

You've got another case of the wrongs.

So we all live in castles and are farmers over here?
If you live in a castle, you tax the living piss out of everyone else and let them doing the farming.

So this 'representing England' is innaccurate.

Talking gruff, smashing the gaff up a bit...
These guys were just typical south londoners. Nothing more. 😛

McWin

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
So we all live in castles and are farmers over here?
If you live in a castle, you tax the living piss out of everyone else and let them doing the farming.

So this 'representing England' is innaccurate.

Talking gruff, smashing the gaff up a bit...
These guys were just typical south londoners. Nothing more. 😛

McWin

Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't show average fighting skill Zan made him look average being able to laugh off a cheapshot from england's alpha male.

They represented England and were organized and had their own crops so yes they represented england.

I never said Rocky didn't win more than lost but you said he only lost once which is blatantly untrue.

You've got another case of the wrongs.

Average punches and wrestling skills, this is what they both showed. Van Zan isn't taking out McClane with this kitten-swipe-like punches, he'd likely break his hand on McClane's face.

Castle with some people, tis all. Accept; move on.

LoL, the reversal. Rocky won more than he lost; being hit in a fight isn't losing, just accept it, move on and stop trying to derail the thread with Rocky, he's not in this fight.

Originally posted by Robtard
Average punches and wrestling skills, this is what they both showed. Van Zan isn't taking out McClane with this kitten-swipe-like punches, he'd likely break his hand on McClane's face.

Castle with some people, tis all. Accept; move on.

LoL, the reversal. Rocky won more than he lost; being hit in a fight isn't losing, just accept it, move on and stop trying to derail the thread with Rocky, he's not in this fight.

If your nation is basically wiped out that's your nation it has nothing to do with the population.

Rocky also lost more times than you were aware of and if he had a gun on deck he wouldn't would have won them all like that sissy McClane.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, Quinn LOOKED AVERAGE not that he was.

If your nation is basically wiped out that's your nation it has nothing to do with the population.

Rocky also lost more times than you were aware of and if he had a gun on deck he wouldn't would have won them all like that sissy McClane.

Crying about it won't make either of your boys anything but average. Van Zan would probably break his wrist punching McClane like he did Quinn.

Stop crying, it was a castle with some people.

Didn't we just discuss how Rocky isn't in this fight? Stop crying and trying to derail.

Originally posted by Robtard
Crying about it won't make either of your boys anything but average. Van Zan would probably break his wrist punching McClane like he did Quinn.

Stop crying, it was a castle with some people.

Didn't we just discuss how Rocky isn't in this fight? Stop crying and trying to derail.

It was referred to as a nation. A country is a nation, little guy.

Yes, we already moved past the fact you were wrong about rocky films just like you are wrong here.

Just because no one had til that point, doesn't mean they wont.
Lets face it, his opponents all knew how to punch.

Van clearly doesnt.
(As demonstrated by the damage - or lack thereof - to his opponent)

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Just because no one had til that point, doesn't mean they wont.
Lets face it, his opponents all knew how to punch.

Van clearly doesnt.
(As demonstrated by the damage - or lack thereof - to his opponent)

Thats right. He hardly damaged them. Thats some girly slapping.

A particularly effeminate style of girly slapping at that.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Thats right. He hardly damaged them. Thats some girly slapping.

A particularly effeminate style of girly slapping at that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He dominated the guy while McClane's used to be dominated but maybe he's just into s and m.

Listen, someone who's been "dominated"(as you imply) in a bare-knuckle street fight doesn't walk away casually with nothing more than a minor bruise and cut lip the second it's over. Learn something about fighting; then reply.

The Van Zan/Quinn fight was little more than a Middle schoolyard scruff. A few hits exchanged; some wrestling, no real damage though.

Originally posted by Robtard
Listen, someone who's been "dominated"(as you imply) in a bare-knuckle street fight doesn't walk away casually with nothing more than a minor bruise and cut lip the second it's over. Learn something about fighting; then reply.

The Van Zan/Quinn fight was little more than a Middle schoolyard scruff. A few hits exchanged; some wrestling, no real damage though.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He dominated the guy while McClane's used to be dominated but maybe he's just into s and m.

Well.....he IS a Catholic... 😛

But still, he wins...

Why, Mr. Anderson? Why do you do it? Why get up? Why keep fighting? Do you believe you're fighting for something? For more than your survival? Can you tell me what it is? Do you even know? Is it freedom? Or truth? Perhaps peace? Could it be for love? Illusions, Mr. Anderson. Vagaries of perception. The temporary constructs of a feeble human intellect trying desperately to justify an existence that is without meaning or purpose. And all of them as artificial as the Matrix itself. Although, only a human mind could invent something as insipid as love. You must be able to see it, Mr. Anderson. You must know it by now. You can't win. It's pointless to keep fighting. Why, Mr. Anderson, Why? Why do you persist?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well.....he IS a Catholic... 😛

But still, he wins...

Originally posted by quanchi112
He dominated the guy while McClane's used to be dominated but maybe he's just into s and m.

I think you may be overestimating that fight. I've seen fights in my high school similar to that. Just because he didn't immediately fall to the ground after getting hit in the back of the head does not mean that all of the sudden he's Brock Lesnar. Trust me. I get it. He's an awesome character, but based off of that one little scrap, he just doesn't display the feats

If you want to start convincing people, you better start producing some feats for Quinn. You bring up his ass whupping like it was Rumble in the Jungle. Quinn was a ***** (probably not, but we're talking about on a H2H level). Just because I have the ability to beat the man shit out of Steve Urkel does not mean I can take on Terry Crews. Quinn displayed no feats that makes Zan beating him impressive.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I think you may be overestimating that fight. I've seen fights in my high school similar to that. Just because he didn't immediately fall to the ground after getting hit in the back of the head does not mean that all of the sudden he's Brock Lesnar. Trust me. I get it. He's an awesome character, but based off of that one little scrap, he just doesn't display the feats

Your portrayal maybe.

He utterly lacks McClass on all fronts

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Your portrayal maybe.

He utterly lacks McClass on all fronts