Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Started by Sadako of Girth112 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
You ignore dh1-4 and rely solely on five like that's his only movie. Girl crushes McClane. We all laugh. You stomp your feet and Zan wins.

Nope. But you misrepresent them/downplay them. He wasn't 'crushed' at all.

The only crush round here is the one you have on Van Zan, and the only stomp here is that which McClane does to the object of your constant masturbatory affections..Van Zan.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nope. But you misrepresent them/downplay them. He wasn't 'crushed' at all.

The only crush round here is the one you have on Van Zan.

He doesn't even register attacks whereas McClane can't even put a woman down without her turning around. Weak.

Yes he does a weakling like Quinn span his chin.

McClane stomped the highly trained, lightning fast Ninja chick to KO, then killed her.

She would have totally murdered "slow, ineffective can't-damage-people with 5 cheapshots sitting on a starving man's arms, and headbutting" assed Van Zan.

Sorry this makes you cry to much to confront.
You may run off with your fingers in your ears, clowndancing and crying as usual, now.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Yes he does a weakling like Quinn span his chin.

McClane stomped the highly trained, lightning fast Ninja chick to KO, then killed her.

She would have totally murdered "slow, ineffective can't-damage-people with 5 cheapshots sitting on a starving man's arms, and headbutting" assed Van Zan.

Sorry this makes you cry to much to confront.
You may run off with your fingers in your ears, clowndancing and crying as usual, now.

No, she disarmed him and dominated him. She turned around due to not respecting him. Big mistake when you are facing a guy who stalks his own wife. McClanbe took advantage of a woman. Not the first time. Zan destroys the woman stalker. His ex wife finally sleeps throughout the night.

There was no stalking, except by you, as usual, of course. Who's "McClanbe?" The tears of rage getting to your typing again? Awwwww how sweet.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
There was no stalking, except by you, as usual, of course. Who's "McClanbe?" The tears of rage getting to your typing again? Awwwww how sweet.
He stalked her in the first movie. The guy else ended up being divorced. he sucks. Zan crushes him. His ex wife then tries to sleep with Zan but he shoves her nasty ass away.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, she disarmed him and dominated him. She turned around due to not respecting him.
At last.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He stalked her in the first movie. The guy else ended up being divorced. he sucks. Zan crushes him. His ex wife then tries to sleep with Zan but he shoves her nasty ass away.

He was there via her invitation, dumbass.. 😂

My god...this confirms that you've never actually seen the movies and are just trolling, as i thought all along...

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He was there via her invitation, dumbass.. 😂

My god...this confirms that you've never actually seen the movies and are just trolling, as i thought all along...

She didn't really want him to come. You could tell when she looked at him. You really don't get women at all. In the end his stalking ended their marriage. Deal with it.

LOL I get women just fine. The amount of angry trolling you do here though suggests that you are spending enough time "getting them" though... Your posts online the roadmap of tragedy in your relationships. Is it because you're rejected so much that you are that bitter towards women and keep listing even the most highly trained of Ninja Chicks among them as inferiors, when you know she would have murdered Van Zan? You could just keep that stuff to yourself, you know, instead of having to make every fictional character debate about you and your problems.

You obviously are ignoring the kissing, loving and all the other stuff in there, and are confused by the dynamics of two adults who are in love having an argument about the practicalities of life.

Unless of course you are just emptily and redundantly trolling with no logic and screenfeats, as usual, of course...

McClane stomps Van Zan so hard McClane'll be picking bits of Valerle Zan's face out of his boots with a waffle iron for six months.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
LOL I get women just fine. The amount of angry trolling you do here though suggests that you are spending enough time "getting them" though... Your posts online the roadmap of tragedy in your relationships. Is it because you're rejected so much that you are that bitter towards women and keep listing even the most highly trained of Ninja Chicks among them as inferiors, when you know she would have murdered Van Zan? You could just keep that stuff to yourself, you know, instead of having to make every fictional character debate about you and your problems.

You obviously are ignoring the kissing, loving and all the other stuff in there, and are confused by the dynamics of two adults who are in love having an argument about the practicalities of life.

Unless of course you are just emptily and redundantly trolling with no logic and screenfeats, as usual, of course...

McClane stomps Van Zan so hard McClane'll be picking bits of Valerle Zan's face out of his boots with a waffle iron for six months.

You clearly don't get any women.

McClane routinely gets dominated and Zan dominates weaker men. That's a wrap.

Awww did you just mindlessly repeat something said to you just now to troll out of ragey butthurt, again?

Yes. You did. Oh well....never mind...

McClane still wins.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Awww did you just mindlessly repeat something said to you just now to troll out of ragey butthurt, again?

Yes. You did. Oh well....never mind...

McClane still wins.

You failed to counter my point which means you concede.

Its been countered, refuted, disputed, hammered, smashed, annihilated, burned, nuked, reconstitured, re-annihilated, smashed again then atomically disassembled over and over again, but you choose to ignore that out of desire to continue trolling with nonsense.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Its been countered, refuted, disputed, hammered, smashed, annihilated, burned, nuked, reconstitured, re-annihilated, smashed again then atomically disassembled over and over again, but you choose to ignore that out of desire to continue trolling with nonsense.
You are turning a very simple fight into something more complicated than it has to be. It's a given McClane gets his ass kicked by skilled/badass opponents even women on occasion. Zan didn't even register Quinn as a threat and easily dominated him. It's also a given McClane relies on luck/weapons/stupidity to turn the tide. Zan doesn't stop until his opponent is dead. McClane dies.

Well since its not a given, thats you hypothesis proven faulty from the outset. You've not seen a whole 5th of the Mcclane saga.
Your already butthurt biased opinion therefore means nothing.

Especially as Van Zan, a 'man' who cannot inflict ANY damage on his opponents, has zero chance against McClane.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well since its not a given, thats you hypothesis proven faulty from the outset. You've not seen a whole 5th of the Mcclane saga.
Your already butthurt biased opinion therefore means nothing.

Especially as Van Zan, a 'man' who cannot inflict ANY damage on his opponents, has zero chance against McClane.

I know that part 5 means the other four parts didn't count but most of us aren't fanboys. We don't pick and choose what counts and what doesn't. Saying Zan can't hurt his opponents is a blatant lie. This is why no one takes you seriously.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Really? You're the only one who keeps repeating your ideas without actual proof. I've given you scans that prove Sue is not immune to telepathy and yet you pretend to not have read them.
Originally posted by Impediment

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What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!"
Originally posted by FrothByte
You have ZERO evidence to support your claim. Edward has proven mind reading capabilities. Sue has demonstrated ZERO mental shielding capabilities. Where is your proof? Where's this so-called one piece of evidence that you have?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Wrong: I cannot prove that Edward can't read Sue's Mind because I cannot prove that negative ability of Edward's: that makes little sense for me to prove. The burden of proof is on you to prove positive attributes of characters.

As fact, we know that Edward cannot read through the mental shields of the only character in Twilight: Bella. She has a mental shield.

I'll answer this problem for you: you cannot prove that Edward can read through Sue's shield if she has it up. The only evidence we have is a mental shield cannot be read through by Edward, Aro, etc.

Unless the OP wants to say Sue's mental shield can be read through, we must err on the side that has the most supporting evidence: mental shields cannot be read through by Edward.

You tried but failed to shift the burden of proof. This is known as a dodge.

I'll ask again: prove that Edward can read Sue's mind through Sue's shield. The only evidence we have says he can't. You must now assert a positive for Edward's mind-reading abilities.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Thank you for clarifying that Susan possess no shield that she produces mentally.

What's this? She produces the shield mentally? And you have no evidence that Edward's mind reading powers can read through that shield?

If the shield was produced by a reflex action rather than with her brain, you might have a point. She doesn't so you don't.

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