Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Started by quanchi112112 pages

Originally posted by Lestov16
Dominated by whom? Name names. And then out of those names, tell me which one of them serves out cotton candy punches like Van Zan.

I'm thoroughly ignoring your disgusting misogynistic downplay of Nikita. She tanked way more damage than Van Fail.

Watch the films. Woman dominated him. Guy on the wing of the plane in Die. Hard 2 crushed Him too.

😂

No, she did not. Quit flip flopping.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I am not cheery picking anything, feverMan.

Except when I provided an example, you ignored it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Let's get on Skype and see who has a better physique between us. We can have a third kmcer judge. I can't wait to laugh at your body. Let's do it.

Aaaaaand there we have attention seeking ego whore right there. Quan, do you really think I'm stupid enough to give a loaded gun and ammo to you of all people? You sir are delusional.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Quinn has an impressive physique but you think his body is starved. You lack basic cognitive skills so I can't debate with you since you don't understand.

I know what the lines of the movie say. That's the difference. Actors are paid to look good, and since Quinn is the star of the show, of course he isn't going to look like Starving Marvin, but that does not change what was said in the movie. You can argue this all day, but the facts don't change.

And, even if he wasn't starving and emacticated, that doesn't alter the fact that Quinn is an untrained and untested civilian going against a military trained and experienced "Road Warrior" who still failed to knock him out.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Except when I provided an example, you ignored it.

Aaaaaand there we have attention seeking ego whore right there. Quan, do you really think I'm stupid enough to give a loaded gun and ammo to you of all people? You sir are delusional.

I know what the lines of the movie say. That's the difference. Actors are paid to look good, and since Quinn is the star of the show, of course he isn't going to look like Starving Marvin, but that does not change what was said in the movie. You can argue this all day, but the facts don't change.

And, even if he wasn't starving and emacticated, that doesn't alter the fact that Quinn is an untrained and untested civilian going against a military trained and experienced "Road Warrior" who still failed to knock him out.

I don't ignore anything you lie though and then concede and pretend you were sick and did not mean certain posts.

You said my body lacks testosterone. You took it here. I said let's compare because unlike you I imagine I'm in great shape. I talk the talk and walk the walk unlike you gutless wonders.

You said he was starving he was not. Bale changed his body for Machinist. He did not look good there. Quinn looked good in Reign of Fire. Do not use words like starving if you don't know what they mean. Simple.

Zan was pulled off. McClane did not even ko a woman with a free cheapshot.

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It's quite simple. McClane KOed a man with a single punch. Van Zan couldn't KO a man with a prolonged series of punches and headbutts.
McClane has no chance.

Watch the films. Woman dominated him.

Better than Van Zan

Guy on the wing of the plane in Die. Hard 2 crushed Him too.

Better than Van Zan

😂

No, she did not. Quit flip flopping. [/QUOTE]

We both know she did, but I know you will ignore any evidence I present, so i won't even waste the effort.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Zan was pulled off.

If he could KO people instantly like McClane that wouldn't have happened 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't ignore anything you lie though and then concede and pretend you were sick and did not mean certain posts.

You corrected me on one spelling mistake you f**king clown.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said my body lacks testosterone. You took it here. I said let's compare because unlike you I imagine I'm in great shape. I talk the talk and walk the walk unlike you gutless wonders.

I said Ninjachick has More testosterone than you do. Learn the difference.

Your imagination not withstanding, I don't care what some faceless fool online thinks of me, because you are not important enough. I simply know better than to provide a fool ammo, You however try to flaunt your masculinity all over the net in front of strangers, that is an actual mental disease dude, get it checked..

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said he was starving he was not. Bale changed his body for Machinist. He did not look good there. Quinn looked good in Reign of Fire. Do not use words like starving if you don't know what they mean. Simple.

Are you a complete retard or something? You had hissyfits whenever someone came up with different interpretations of portrayal than you did because you thought everyone thumbtacked on shit. Now hat Quinn gets examined, then the writers of ROF are fools because although Quinn is part of a village that hasn't had a good harvest in years, he is suddenly Hercules's older brother in your eyes? What the ever living hell?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Zan was pulled off. McClane did not even ko a woman with a free cheapshot.

😆

Cherrypick. Your looking at only one fight in many for one, and 2 McClane still killed Ninjachick, Zan did not.

Originally posted by Lestov16
If he could KO people instantly like McClane that wouldn't have happened 🙂
How many skilled opponents has McClane ko'd with one punch ? Want to talk percentages or do you want to cling to certain feats and ignore the rest.

🙂

Originally posted by Lestov16
[b] Watch the films. Woman dominated him.

Better than Van Zan

Guy on the wing of the plane in Die. Hard 2 crushed Him too.

Better than Van Zan

😂

No, she did not. Quit flip flopping.

We both know she did, but I know you will ignore any evidence I present, so i won't even waste the effort. [/B][/QUOTE] Concession accepted.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
You corrected me on one spelling mistake you f**king clown.

I said Ninjachick has More testosterone than you do. Learn the difference.

Your imagination not withstanding, I don't care what some faceless fool online thinks of me, because you are not important enough. I simply know better than to provide a fool ammo, You however try to flaunt your masculinity all over the net in front of strangers, that is an actual mental disease dude, get it checked..

Are you a complete retard or something? You had hissyfits whenever someone came up with different interpretations of portrayal than you did because you thought everyone thumbtacked on shit. Now hat Quinn gets examined, then the writers of ROF are fools because although Quinn is part of a village that hasn't had a good harvest in years, he is suddenly Hercules's older brother in your eyes? What the ever living hell?

Cherrypick. Your looking at only one fight in many for one, and 2 McClane still killed Ninjachick, Zan did not.

You're so sensitive.

Not at all. I have more muscle on me than her but I guess you just admitted you have less testosterone than she does. How embarrassing. I guess you are embarrassed about the way you look. I am not.

He wasn't eating feasts but food was still there. He obviously kept himself in shape as as there leader he ate well. Common sense.

There are many fights where McClane gets his ass kicked. The guy on the wing of the plane beats McClane's ass. Two examples of embarrassing beatdowns.

Originally posted by quanchi112

And we see here, the assclown Quanchi112 even manages to turn one of his best supporters against him in a fit of mental deficiency induced rage and butthurt.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
And we see here, the assclown Quanchi112 even manages to turn one of his best supporters against him in a fit of mental deficiency induced rage and butthurt.
If he disagrees with me he gets the same kind of debating I give anyone else. Quit acting like I should debate with him differently because he's been on my side before. You're so emotional and not objective at all.

I can guarantee you that if Van Zan got knocked out of that window like McClane did, his bytch ass would have died. He most certainly wouldn't have been able to get up and drive a car into that same room less than 2 minutes later.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're so sensitive.

Nah, I just don't abide by such obviously horrendous bullshit.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not at all. I have more muscle on me than her but I guess you just admitted you have less testosterone than she does. How embarrassing. I guess you are embarrassed about the way you look. I am not.

And Quan chi enters la-la land of pot fantasies and crack induced delusions.

I hope you brought the good stuff Quan, because it'll be a very long time before the psychiatrist lets you out of your padded cell.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He wasn't eating feasts but food was still there. He obviously kept himself in shape as as there leader he ate well. Common sense.

And here is where your bullshitting falls apart, he prioritises others over himself and often went without eating or sleeping. This was demonstrated multiple times because he blamed himself after one of the younger men got killed on patrol.

Sh!t dude, I havn't watched ROF in 10 years or more, and I still remember more than you do.

Originally posted by quanchi112
There are many fights where McClane gets his ass kicked. The guy on the wing of the plane beats McClane's ass. Two examples of embarrassing beatdowns.

And I noticed you neglected the fight on the ship in DH3, or hows about DH1 where he fought that guy and survived where the opponent died in the staircase, or when he hung the other guy on a hook.

You are a dishonest little cherry picking fool.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I can guarantee you that if Van Zan got knocked out of that window like McClane did, his bytch ass would have died. He most certainly wouldn't have been able to get up and drive a car into that same room less than 2 minutes later.
I doubt it. McClane can't kill dragons like Zan. He also wouldn't be crushed by the man on the wing of the plane in Die Hard 2.

Shameful.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I doubt it. McClane can't kill dragons like Zan. He also wouldn't be crushed by the man on the wing of the plane in Die Hard 2.

Shameful.

Zan never killed a dragon o his own either, and the one time he did resulted in him being reduced to a steaming pule of fresh sh!t.

Zan never demonstrated anything at all, he leaped from a tower and frigging died.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Zan never killed a dragon o his own either, and the one time he did resulted in him being reduced to a steaming pule of fresh sh!t.

Zan never demonstrated anything at all, he leaped from a tower and frigging died.

He did it through a coordinated effort. He did kill a dragon and more off screen.

Zan gave his life for the cause unlike the divorcee. McClane got crushed by the man on the wing of the plane.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He did it through a coordinated effort. He did kill a dragon and more off screen.

Zan gave his life for the cause unlike the divorcee. McClane got crushed by the man on the wing of the plane.

He did it with huge amounts of assistance, so it was not all him, in fact it was barely him at all.

According to your own Quan logic, if we didn't see it, then it didn't happen. Don't go crying about made up bullshit now.

Unfortunately for Zan, McClane has actually put people down in single hits, fought far more capable human foes, and has come out of situations that would rend Van Zan apart. You have no basis to counter these facts, because of the 2 things Zan did, he failed both of them miserably.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
He did it with huge amounts of assistance, so it was not all him, in fact it was barely him at all.

According to your own Quan logic, if we didn't see it, then it didn't happen. Don't go crying about made up bullshit now.

Unfortunately for Zan, McClane has actually put people down in single hits, fought far more capable human foes, and has come out of situations that would rend Van Zan apart. You have no basis to counter these facts, because of the 2 things Zan did, he failed both of them miserably.

He led the team.

We know it happened we just did not see it but who cares since we saw him already kill one.

How many people has he put down in single hits ? Let's discuss percentages.

Even if only .001% of the people McClane hit were KO instantly, that's still way better than Van Zan's 0%.