Denton Van Zan (Reign of Fire) vs. John McClane

Originally posted by Lestov16
You're asking if I gave McClane the win over someone Gump can beat? Phucking [b]duh. [/B]

You used to poop your diaper. Should you still now, or did you grow? Its not flip flopping to learn and open your eyes.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You used to poop your diaper. Should you still now, or did you grow? Its not flip flopping to learn and open your eyes.

Wait, what? Your sentence is barely coherent. Let's break this down.

"You used to say Zan can beat a guy (I'l assume you mean McClane) who you now claim can't beat Gump (WTF?).

Are you saying that I said McClane can't beat Gump? Because that's how you worded your sentence.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Wait, what? Your sentence is barely coherent. Let's break this down.

"[b]You used to say Zan can beat a guy (I'l assume you mean McClane) who you now claim can't beat Gump (WTF?).

Are you saying that I said McClane can't beat Gump? Because that's how you worded your sentence. [/B]

Gump would even beat him at chess, most likely.
He'd certainly beat him at pingpong.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Gump would even beat him at chess, most likely.
He'd certainly beat him at pingpong.

Nah both The divorcee McClane, and the Widow Forrest Gump (and possibly Momma Gump) all would kill Van Zan (The man who's only onscreen relationship was with Quinn) in less than a minute. Lieutenant Dan would likely beat him too, but would empathise with Van Zan's obsession/fixation with dying.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nah both The divorcee McClane, and the Widow Forrest Gump (and possibly Momma Gump) all would kill Van Zan (The man who's only onscreen relationship was with Quinn) in less than a minute. Lieutenant Dan would likely beat him too, but would empathise with Van Zan's obsession/fixation with dying.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are claiming Zan loses here but you claimed he beat McClane. Now you think Zan can't even beat Gump which means your older opinion was so wrong it was ignorant despite arguing for pages.

You want to know what's scary? You recognize that my older opinion was wrong, and since my older opinion is your current one, that means you fully realize your opinion here is wrong....but are still debating with it 😕

Lt. Dan>>>>>>....Van Zan on the badass scale. Also let's not forget that Dan put himself into mortal circumstances on the ship.....and lived. So Van Zan couldn't even cheat death while an amputee could. That's just sad.

The final of many, many, many nails in his coffin lid of his credibility.

TBF, how can Zan's credibility be dead since it didn't exist to begin with?

I was talking about Quan. I guess your statement still stands though.

Originally posted by Lestov16
You want to know what's scary? You recognize that my older opinion was wrong, and since my older opinion is your current one, that means you fully realize your opinion here is wrong....but are still debating with it 😕

You need my guidance.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
The final of many, many, many nails in his coffin lid of his credibility.

You seem like you give out the kind of "guidance" that Stabler and Benson investigate.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I was talking about Quan. I guess your statement still stands though.

I hide behind noone.

Van Zan was a pussy who hid behind his "army" before killing them all with his incompetance and then people they should have protected.

So true