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Originally posted by BloodRain
1. So answerbag and wiki? Well he can lift tanks, and the heavily armoured thermo ones at that. 80-90 tons. And obd peoples agreed on his speed being 200mph+ for timed run around the island and outrunning heli's, he can throw things faster then he can run. Just over the 1000x mark.2. Fishing fishing, eg Paris is 100km2.
3. Not really. Copied and compressed his post, if you disagree then disagree with his work /shrugs. But hey, if you consider a feat from a guy 200x stronger then a human to be impressive in a place where many characters are thousands and millions of times stronger then humans, like the people mentioned, then that's your call.
Whats inventing a calc have to do with anything.. at all. So.. that's a no then 😬?
Make note that my whole point was addressed to the people who think 'Sun core' means some planetary force when in fact its low attack pressure for superhumans. Hoping you won't need to reply to this post, its become off-topic.
1. When? I dont remember him lifting a tank, I know he cant in gameplay so when did he in a cutscene? please show me and tanks, or Abrams which is what is displayed in the game are closer to 70 ton range. I dont know about 200 mph....wheres this from and on the "throwns things faster than he can run", if hes throwing it then obviously its going to outdistance him.
2. Thats not even from KMC, let alone official. Cant say theres even a calculation there to prove their claims either, if there was some good math on the subject, although again, theres no weapon the Titan possesses that does that much damage. The Titan weapons have a Volcano cannon for doing pinpoint damage to other large vehicles and I assume the whole "city destroying" is because their theoretically capable over time of destroying a city.
3. Ive yet to see the calcs for milions and thousands, so far youve mentioned a character I know like Mercer who can according to you throw 60 ton tanks which I dont recall, also note that even at 1kx human level or 1milx their no doubt doing less pressure than Raziel depending on surface areas.
Originally posted by NemeBro
You should try to stab a rhino, to find out.40k tanks are more durable than IRL tanks.
Lol. You're an idiot if you think a modern nuke has more power than a Volcano Cannon. Especially after reading where I said that a Volcano Cannon>Deathstrike Missile, which is more powerful than any IRL nuke in history.
The rest would have collapsed at terminal velocity. 😐
And once more, the Volcano Cannon isn't just something that causes a superbig boom, it's a highly focused laser that causes a small explosion on impact. And yes, some of the structure is quite intact. The parts the laser did not directly hit.
They have been brought to bear on a single Carnifex. At 15 feet, a Carnifex is not drastically different in size to a human.
Oh, they have also been aimed at single Space Marines and on Magnus the Red in A Thousand Sons.
In the tabletop, they can easily target a single human.
BR showed that Kain with his supar earth's pressure of whatever feat, he only is 200 times more impressive than a human. That's not even as impressive as a ****ing Carnifex, who have monomolecular talons while being strong enough to push down a massive skyscraper of Wraithbone, which not only would weigh thousands of tons, but is much more durable than Ceramite. A Carnifex can't **** with a Warhound Titan, let alone a Warlord. So BT, if something stronger than Kain or Raziel by miles, who have blades with a much smaller surface area than Raziel or Kain's, can't destroy a Titan using their talons, why can Kain? Hint: He can't.
Your premise is flawed because it assumes a Space Marine would be stupid enough to charge a Titan with a chainsword. Titan plate is more durable and thicker than Terminator plate, which can take a chainsword with a laugh. Think about it.
Titans aren't made to fight single soldiers. They're made to fight much stronger. So why would a single soldier be able to harm it?
The only Titan Hunting Space Marine squads in existence are waves of Space Marines in Terminator armour equipped with Thunder Hammers, who hope to swarm the Titan and destroy it by hitting the points where it is weakest. With a Thunder Hammer. A weapon that literally disrupts and disintegrates matter on an atomic level, possessing enough force to in one blow level a massive 40k cathedral.
Using the same formula you had people use for Kain, you do realise that a Hive Tyrant or a Bloodthirster would output much, much more pressure, right?
Also, once more. Deathstrike Missiles>>>Best nuke ever made. Volcano Cannon>>Deathstrike Missile.
What? I hope instead you have some calculations of Rhinos glancing off knives wielded by Olmypic strength champions 😉
Possibly, I recall a WH440k thread a long time ago(outside KMC) that argued their design of a lemen russ tank actually makes its surface areas less damage resistant than our tanks, materials aside of course, I imagine the metals their made from are more durable.
A modern nuke has done more damage featwise than the Volcano cannon so far, which cannot completly disintegrate/destroy chunks of concrete.
The top half perhaps, clearly but thats physics, not the Volcano cannon which as I said, broke concrete into large slabs, something most modern weapons today can do with ease.
It did make a boom however on the spire which has the stats shown above, an amped boom from the Warp device at that. The laser did not apprently directly hit the other piecies that were blasted outwards as well, if your claiming that it only does damage to what its contacting with its several meter wide beam then how do you explain the waves of force up and down the spire?
A carnifax is comparable to a Tyranid tank though, not a single man. Their also very fat/wide.
So this is more interesting, can you explain the circumstances on aiming at these marines? Did it actually aim "at" them, e.g. the auspex/scanners targeted them, or did it shoot the ground?
I am surprised theres been documentation on a Carnifex getting that close, what happened then? can you show me this carnifax doing this damage or explain the variables? How did something as large and cumbersome even get so close to a Titan.
Where does it say Titans are more durable? I can see thicker being logical but more durable? does it say their made of anything different than Terminator armour? I thought they were all made of Ceramite or adamantine or w/e its called. Also who attacked a Terminator with a Chainsword? Also if you think on it, Chain weapons can indeed pierce Titans because they themselves use chain weapons in melee. Now if the difference in the weapon is zero, e.g. their both chain molecular blades and the only difference is size and strength (e.g. Titan strength/size, not a marine) then things on smaller scale, with smaller strngth would logically work on smaller areas than a Titan uses its chain weapon on.
Because a single soldier is not taken into account with its design. A single space marine, actually getting close enough to the Titan to deliver a chainsword blow on its leg, would not only do next to no damage even if it pierced the Titan but also chances are, the marine would be destroyed long before getting that close.
Dont assault terminators also have teleporters or is that only in Dawn of War? What your describing to me is a lot of soldiers trying to actually wreck/bring down a Titan on a battlefield and I assume they do sometimes succeed? Kain does not have to be fast in what hes doing, since once hes on it, its defenceless anyway also, you mension that a force hammer brought down a cathedral? I hope your not trying to claim bringing down a cathedral is higher class of pressure than the pressure at the core of a planet?
Quite possibly, but unless theres feats from the Titan that you can show me of glancing bloodthirsters/Tyrants weapons off its armour with ease as well as the calculations on their strength then that information is useless.
Based on the description of this missle, its power is based on causing masive earthquakes, nothing about city scale force, but more underground subteranian activity. Does the missle even explode in a huge hundreds of KM wide blast? also a nuclear bomb that affects KM of area and can create enormous crators on the scale Kain can do 6x+ earth core pressure can only do pressure equel to a humans blood pressure. So you mentionign huge, large scale missles not harming a Titan does not actually help it defeat Kains attack, your better route of argument is Chainswords and bloodthirsters.