Dante (DMC) vs. Carnifex (40k)

Dawn of War is never stated to be entirely part of continuity, ever.

Official studio fluff, Black Library, Forgeworld, and Fantasy Flight Games.

Those are the four companies (Three of which licensed by GW) that can create canon IP, according to Aaron Dembski-Bowden.

Notice that Relic is nowhere in there.

Although some aspects of Dawn of War, such as the Blood Ravens chapter, have been integrated into official fluff, that does not imply the entire thing is canon.

That said.

It's not impossible for a chainsword to harm a Carnifex, honestly.

It's just not likely, and will take more than one swing.

Does Dante get Yamato here? Because physical durability is useless against it.

The DoW2 novel is apart of the black library, and also features Carnifex being killed and even injured by heavy bolters.

Directly contradicted by the codices themselves and is a low showing/plot fu.

Edit: Wasn't DoW written by CS Goto? haermm

I don't see any contradictions between it and the codex.

I also recall a Carnifex being shredded by a ______ tank in Ciaphas Cain.

Tanks are pretty decent for Carnifex killing, depending on the tank.

What was its armament?

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I don't see any contradictions between it and the codex.

I also recall a Carnifex being shredded by a ______ tank in Ciaphas Cain.

Caiphas Cain exists on plot fu. It was a Chimera, most likely. I've read them all, they're a black comedy set in a black comedy. /Shrug. Still contradicted by the codices.

The same book you're citing has a Hive Tyrant wounded by a heavy bolter. The same species of Tyranid that proved invulnerable to wraith cannons.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Tanks are pretty decent for Carnifex killing, depending on the tank.

What was its armament?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The codex has Carnifexen being invulnerable to small arms fire, and OOE beign invulnerable to Tellion who uses a heavy bolter.

Caiphas Cain exists on plot fu. It was a Chimera, most likely. I've read them all, they're a black comedy set in a black comedy. /Shrug. Still contradicted by the codices.

The same book you're citing has a Hive Tyrant wounded by a heavy bolter. The same species of Tyranid that proved invulnerable to [b]wraith cannons. [/B]

Nor are all writers. You're basically trying to pull the bottom out of this thread with low showings that are directly opposed to what's stated in the codices.

Caiphas Cain novels also feature

Spoiler:
Necrons being damaged by las weapons, Cain meleeing spehss mehreens, and getting drunk with Sororitas in between banging an inquisitor.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
It was the type of tank they use for anti-air, I can't recall the name atm, too lazy to check. It wasn't a tank though, it was artillery. The anti-air artillery. Not all Fex's are the same, so that's not really a contradiction.

Hydra?

Also I think its been clearly proven Chainswords, hvy bolters and all kinds of things can harm Carnifex' and Dantes accuracy and large list of weapons would make it easy for him to take out its eyes, if not its whole head.

The Fex supporters are using vague statements and poor context, as well as A>B>C logic for their arguments 🙄

Sorry but a book written by SC Goto and a comedy set in the background of 40k don't over-rule the codex

Yet to see this quote from the codex whether your claim is true or not.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
[B]Nor are all writers. You're basically trying to pull the bottom out of this thread with low showings that are directly opposed to what's stated in the codices.

Once you've accomplished that, prove that the codex is referring to bolters as"small arms fire", rather than, say, Lasguns.

Caiphas Cain novels also feature

Spoiler:
Necrons being damaged by las weapons,

Nothing strange about that. Plus, those troopers were using hellguns or hotshot lasguns, not standard lasguns.

Cain meleeing spehss mehreens

He was [ii]dueling[/i] them with his muthaphuckin chainsword.

and getting drunk with Sororitas in between banging an inquisitor.

Try again, Bragg.

EDIT- Speaking of Gaunt's Ghost references, someone give me that god damn page number for the meters of concrete statement.

Not that it even matters. In Gaunt's Ghosts people regularly use plaster walls, mounds of dirt and other people's bodies as effective cover against lasguns,so at best you have conflicting canon.

A Carnifex being immune to small-arms fire or chainswords in 40k is kind of a bold claim.

They are highly resistant to it, but not completely immune.

Not all Carnifexen are the same, but all are invulnerable to small arms fire. Forget what page that's on, it's in the fluff somewhere. /Shrug. Will find it later, not that I need to:

Tadah, pretty plain bolts from a heavy bolter couldn't even damage him, between this and the Fex surviving a cyclonic missile barrage, I have nothing left to prove.

When the Dante supporters make a post to try and prove Dante can actually damage a Carnifex, rather than you persistently showing up with things that honestly don't matter to try and steer the argument off course, I'll debate further.

Also, the codices cover lasguns, too. They're consistently strong enough to sever limbs and shit, people surviving hits to any important part of their body is either pure PIS, inconsistency, or you're ignoring that they we wearing armour over that spot.

Oh, and the Hellgun/Hotshot point does nothing against Cain's MIGHTY LAS PISTOL. There's nothing he can't kill with that thing, because he's the HERO OF THE IMPERIUM.

THats one fex, I think a lot of Blax' argument is htat their not all the same and the way Cyclonic torpedos destroy a worlds atmopshere and everything on it is unique to shots at moderate range directly at a target.

A big enough gun can sever limbs although I have also read las guns not doing major damage. I dont think their as powerful as you belive.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Not all Carnifexen are the same, but all are invulnerable to small arms fire. Forget what page that's on, it's in the fluff somewhere. /Shrug. Will find it later, not that I need to:

Tadah, pretty plain bolts from a heavy bolter couldn't even damage him, between this and the Fex surviving a cyclonic missile barrage, I have nothing left to prove.

When the Dante supporters make a post to try and prove Dante can actually damage a Carnifex, rather than you persistently showing up with things that honestly don't matter to try and steer the argument off course, I'll debate further.

Old One Eye isn't equatable to evey Fex.

Old One Eye isn't equatable to evey Fex.

Tha he's immune to small-arms fire when other Fex's are not indicates that he is.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Tha he's immune to small-arms fire when other Fex's are not indicates that he is.