Dante (DMC) vs. Carnifex (40k)

Originally posted by BloodRain
Minisun or whatever, Im thinking Ifrit can cover this heat.

Lol. What makes you think that?

..Any more physical durability feats? Being set on fire doesn't tell me much. So far all I know is that they can

You need a better feat than "survived planet glassing for a month"? 😬 You're not usually this obtuse.

Why is this verse so hard to get feats on? >: Ballpark figure will be kewl.

Well the ship would be, assuming it's only used for planetary action and not a starship, about 60 or so meters wide. Though it varies depending on the ship.

Can you be sure that its only the eyes and not the rest of the flesh? That I can see nothing says where they took these strikes.

The eye. 😐

Old One Eye was only shot in the eye with a Plasma Pistol, and did not die.

Before it was incapacitated with a hit in the eye, it was weathering all other assaults, though it does not specify what was used (Though it did say only their strongest weapons could wound it).

But if BT's right about that missile launcher, and unless that missile has some massive power on it some of Pandora's shots could match.

Did you miss the starship that was smaller than all the spires on that section of Commorragh?

In 40k, a starship ranges between 3-12 kilometers on average (Though in some cases they can be bigger, mostly when speaking of Necron tech).

In fact, a Space Marine Strike Cruiser is definitely much smaller than the spires of the Dark Eldar the Krak Missiles sent tumbling, a Strike Cruiser ranges between 4-8 miles long IIRC.

Is a carnifex a common expendable creature or a unique boss type enemy?

The Tyranids breed Carnifexes by the millions.

There are much bigger and badder Tyranids than a Carnifex.

So Dante would have trouble handling a common grunt enemy in 40k.

That's how you know when a series is ridiculously overpowered.

Originally posted by TheGoldenSpy
So Dante would have trouble handling a common grunt enemy in 40k.

That's how you know when a series is ridiculously overpowered.

Most things in 40k are nowhere near as powerful as a Carnifex, especially in melee. A Carnifex can tear Space Marines to pieces with casual ease.

The most common Tyranid organisms are Hormagaunts and Termagants, much smaller creatures who attack en masse and are only a bit more powerful than a human overall, though much stronger up close.

Though yes, there are beings that make a Carnifex look irrelevant. Titans, Super Heavies, Greater Daemons, Daemon Princes, etc.

So the only weak (and i say weak lightly here) spot of the carnifex is its eye?

nemebro, how many shots would you say it would take dante to hurt its eye bad enough so it cant see? Or would it take none at all..

edit: And would any of pandoras forms hurt this things eye? Like its p66 omen?

@Scream: Tanking the bolter isnt that great if its only blasting though a few meters of metal or whatever Neme said. What I know so far is that that plasma gun has the force to damage the things. If Dante can replicate that he has a fair shot of damaging the thing. Id put money on Ifrit and his blade for that.

Still think his RG can 'possible' stand up to this things strength now that Im getting a scale of the spire. Could tank cityblock+ busting beams in the novel.

@Neme: Well without a direct statement we can only assume that the plasma gun is approaching the suns temp, thats roughly what Ifrit is too.

'Kay I not even familiar with the term Planet glassing..

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Given the rough temp that was able to shoot through OOE's eye to its brain Im positive that some Ifrit hits with rack up some nice damage, and OOE was much better at recovery then the others so it'll be painful for this guy. Still no idea where about its durability is, so how would DT, Gauntlets with Yamato fair on damaging it?

Planet glassing is a general sci-fi term that refers to bombing a planet until its surface turns to glass. It's like turning sand to glass on a much larger scale.

Yamato was stopped by a rocket launcher.

I think this creature is better suited for someone like kratos or akuma. Guys that can hit hard.

Nah its all about the user, Vergil didnt wanna kill her. Its been shown to stab things at least a thousand times easier then other blades.

Originally posted by BloodRain
@Scream: Tanking the bolter isnt that great if its only blasting though a few meters of metal or whatever Neme said. What I know so far is that that plasma gun has the force to damage the things. If Dante can replicate that he has a fair shot of damaging the thing. Id put money on Ifrit and his blade for that.

Bolters are hypersonic fully automatic armour-piercing RPGs mah boi. They make contempory defenses look like a joke.

Still think his RG can 'possible' stand up to this things strength now that Im getting a scale of the spire. Could tank cityblock+ busting beams in the novel.

That strength is backed up by monomolecular edged talons.

@Neme: Well without a direct statement we can only assume that the plasma gun is approaching the suns temp, thats roughly what Ifrit is too.

What makes you think it is sun temperature?

And Plasma weaponry is described as detonating with the "power of a small sun." The blast is also described as a "supernova." For reference, it can vaporise a Marine in full Power Armour, which can survive orbital bombardment that can level cities from Barrage Bombs, and a Warpfire Bomb left by a very powerful sorcerer that destoryed the massive Librarium of Jollana, which is essentially the size of a large city. This explosion also tore open a rift in time and space, creating a Warp Rift that allowed Daemons to pour through. Just so you know.

'Kay I not even familiar with the term Planet glassing..

A bomb is dropped that incinerates the atmosphere and the planet, turning it into a marble. It glasses the surface of the planet.

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Given the rough temp that was able to shoot through OOE's eye to its brain Im positive that some Ifrit hits with rack up some nice damage, and OOE was much better at recovery then the others so it'll be painful for this guy. Still no idea where about its durability is, so how would DT, Gauntlets with Yamato fair on damaging it?

A Carnifex has some small ass eyes.

And I don't know. I don't even know what Ifrit is, lol. I don't know a whole lot about Dante. Because Dante is lame and you should be ashamed for liking him.

Originally posted by NemeBro
[B]Lasguns can penetrate power armour if it hits a weak spot, like the back or side of the knee, and it is consistently stated in studio fluff to be capable of blowing off limbs, or penetrating two meters of concrete,

and in all books I have read it's easily capable of decapitating a human with a single shot, or blowing limbs off. Eisenhorn shows this a few times. Actually, Eisenhorn has half his forearm blown off by a laspistol in a short story, even while armoured (Not sure if it was Flak Armour or Carapace, probably Carapace).

Cover isn't just for blocking enemy fire, it's also for obscuring vision.

Also, context would be nice. Not going to drop everything I'm doing to read 20 books. Because I'm busy reading three. estahuh

You have instances like Domor getting shot in the face and surviving, getting implants later. Feygor got shot in throat and survived, getting a throat implant. A few years later he was shot in the chest and lived for an hour before succumbing to his injury. Obviously, if the lasround had exploded his chest or something, he would have died on the spot. Rhen Mertt got shot in the face by a las round, and survived with an augmetic jaw. Those are ones off the top of my head that obviously would have been 100% fatal if lasgun rounds were more powerful than a modern day handgun ammo. Beyond that, it's almost a trope in Gaunt's Ghost novels for the characters to get hit in the shoulders, legs, without any serious injury as a result.

Originally posted by NemeBro

And I don't know. I don't even know what Ifrit is, lol. I don't know a whole lot about Dante. Because Dante is lame and you should be ashamed for liking him.

Ifrit are a pair of gauntlets, firey in nature. Their best feat is slicing the demon portals, which are large slabs of stone which would be my best description of them. Nothing on the level of the suns anything. But I dont think plasma is what your saying it is, "power of a small sun" is a vague term since how small? if its tiny then it makes sense, therefore creating little energy.

Your doing what BR whines at me for doing, using something that sounds impressive when its not, only mine is impressive on a pressure scale still when yours is vague at best and not mathmatically calcable if thats a word.

That said, plasma weapons are powerful and I still stand by my own claim that Dantes power is not enough, Kratos would be a better matchup.

Is Dante allowed his time manipulations?

DMC 4, so no.

Also, I am now ashamed at not knowing much about Warhammer.

99% of the things you'll hear are hearsay or exaggerations. So always ask for someone to provide sources for the stuff they say. Primary sources will be Codexes, the novels and games.

Don't worry Blax, I'll get you that lasgun source. estahuh

Do I look worried, motherphucker? uhuh

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
99% of the things you'll hear are hearsay or exaggerations. So always ask for someone to provide sources for the stuff they say. Primary sources will be Codexes, the novels and games.

Exactly why I'm ashamed. Don't know whether or not I should believe half the shit Nemebro & Scream have typed up. uhuh

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Exactly why I'm ashamed. Don't know whether or not I should believe half the shit Nemebro & Scream have typed up. uhuh