Originally posted by Starscream M
hasn't the shield been damaged more often than pure adamantium?
It's been damaged by sources which would also damage adamantium and with more ease. It happening more often to Cap is because Cap faces those kind of foes/obstacles more so often than Logan does. And it doesn't hurt that damaging Captain America's shield is often used as a symbolic sign of somewhat.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank👆
It's been damaged by sources which would also damage adamantium and with more ease. It happening more often to Cap is because Cap faces those kind of foes/obstacles more so often than Logan does. And it doesn't hurt that damaging Captain America's shield is often used as a symbolic sign of somewhat.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganOk then let me rephrase it.
I know the issue your talken about, it when Jugg back hand KO Wolverine. People posted it as a single one shot, but actaully if you read the issue, Wolverine was hit prior to that.
When Juggernaut decided to KO Wolverine and Wolverine had to stand there and take it, he was Koed with one back hand.
Originally posted by Starscream M
prove it. 😐
Molecule Man said that between the Surfer's board, Mjolnir, and Cap's shield, Cap's shield was "the strangest" of them all, implying its molecular make up was/is unique. IIRC, he couldn't even recreate the shield properly when he attempted to fix it after breaking it. I highly doubt Reece would have the same issue with adamantium.
King Thor with a glance melted Wolverine's skeleton, warping it and having his claws break. Conversely, he merely blew a hole through the shield, but outside of that gaping hole, the shield itself was still intact. Same can't be said about Logan's skeleton.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankok, I'll def concede that in certain aspects, adamantium is 'weaker than the shield...ie perhaps against heat, and even magnetism
Molecule Man said that between the Surfer's board, Mjolnir, and Cap's shield, Cap's shield was "the strangest" of them all, implying its molecular make up was/is unique. IIRC, he couldn't even recreate the shield properly when he attempted to fix it after breaking it. I highly doubt Reece would have the same issue with adamantium.King Thor with a glance melted Wolverine's skeleton, having his claws break. Conversely, he merely blew a hole through the shield, but outside of that gaping hole, the shield itself was still intact. Same can't be said about Logan's skeleton.
but I could also use your example against the shield. whereas thor could break a hole in the shield, he had to melt logan's skeleton to break it, thereby actually proving adamantium is harder to damage by 'force'
Originally posted by JakeTheBankAnyone have the scan at hand? (the melting part, not the shield part)
King Thor with a glance melted Wolverine's skeleton, warping it and having his claws break. Conversely, he merely blew a hole through the shield, but outside of that gaping hole, the shield itself was still intact. Same can't be said about Logan's skeleton.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank👆 👆
It's been damaged by sources which would also damage adamantium and with more ease. It happening more often to Cap is because Cap faces those kind of foes/obstacles more so often than Logan does. And it doesn't hurt that damaging Captain America's shield is often used as a symbolic sign of somewhat.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Anyone have the scan at hand? (the melting part, not the shield part)
You can actually see the claws breaking off. Also keep in mind that that blast was being sapped of power due to Strange's machinations so it's entirely possible that King Thor didn't use full force to do so.
I'm sorry jake, but you're interpreting far too much from the scan
the claws are not breaking off, merely looks melted out of shape
also, taking the scan to analysis, why are logan's teeth not at all melted or damaged...does that prove his teeth are stronger than both adamantium and shield? see what happens when you try to extrapolate too much from a scan (which often is merely artist interpretation) 😬
Originally posted by Starscream M
I'm sorry jake, but you're interpreting far too much from the scanthe claws are not breaking off, merely looks melted out of shape
also, taking the scan to analysis, why are logan's teeth not at all melted or damaged...does that prove his teeth are stronger than both adamantium and shield? see what happens when you try to extrapolate too much from a scan (which often is merely artist interpretation) 😬
It's because a panel can only convey so much time passage in a single moment.
King Thor's eyebeams seem to work like a disintegration beam ala the Destroyer and apparently gives off extreme heat in addition to the force of the blast. Which is why we don't see the entire skeleton being destroyed in that panel. But his middle claw is breaking off due to the stress of that energy output.
Re: One Shot Wolverine
Originally posted by JakeTheBankAll of them could. If Wolverine is bracing, Cage might not be able to cut it.
(In no real order)Luke Cage
Colossus
Thing
Juggernaut
Hercules
Thor (bare hands)
Gladiator
Savage Hulk
Wonder Woman
Captain Marvel
Black Adam
Thor w/Mjolnir
Superman
World War Hulk
Our Worlds At War Superman
Superman Prime (Guardian Amped)Which of the following characters, if any, could one-shot Wolverine with their bare hands (or weapon if specified)?
How many attacks from each of them would it take for them to KO Wolverine?
BONUS FIGHT: Iron Fist