One Shot Wolverine

Originally posted by leonidas
it's been stated in continuity to be a unique alloy of adamantium AND vibranium. non-odinforce thor has also failed to even SCRATCH it with

No, it not at all. In fact it could not be more untruee. Your going by an old out dated handbook which was not only inaccurate it goes against that idea purpose for the creation of adamatium in the first place.

Originally posted by leonidas
his hammer, while he has outright dented primary adamantium.

Thor hammer has straight up failed to do damage to primary adamatium what so ever before as has the Hulk.

I can only think one example of it occuring it was prior to primary adamatium development into unbreakable metal and was from 20 plus years ago.

I swear theres been X-Men issues where Wolverine has gotten casually one shotted, but since I dont have the books in front of me, I suppose its a moot point.

Originally posted by tkitna
I swear theres been X-Men issues where Wolverine has gotten casually one shotted, but since I dont have the books in front of me, I suppose its a moot point.

I listed one-shots (and "few"-shots) in the Wolverine vs. The Knock out thread

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No, he's right. Cap's shield has no Adamantium in it what-so-ever. Adamantium was created after Cap's shield was for the very purpose of trying to recreate the unique metal compound in said shield.

The concept that Cap's shield is a mix of Adamantium and Vibranium is emphatically untrue. It is a popular misconception that first showed up in the old Marvel Hand Books, but it's accurate.

Wolverine has been one shotted a few times or been taken down swiftly by attacks. It's less likely to happen nowadays. Even compared to like the 90's IIRC.

Captain America's shield is an alloy of Vibranium and Steel. Adamantium was created by scientists who were trying to recreate the alloy that the shield is made of. That being said, there has been a comic or two where I've seen the shield being referenced as a Vibranium/Adamantium mix so I don't fault Leo.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
He shot him with some type of blast, that we don't even know what it was. It was more then simply physical force.

If you don't know what it was, then how can you accurately say it was more than physical force?

As far as I saw, it was a blast of Odin Force. I'm not going to assume matter manipulation was in play unless it's stated. That's confirmation bias at it's finest. If you want to argue there was more going on then just raw power, then it's on you to provide the evidence.

I think it's pretty clear that at the level Odin and such operate, Adamantium is nothing special at all. Even some of Zeus' power was used to cut through enchanted Adamantium recently.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I've seen the shield being referenced as a Vibranium/Adamantium mix so I don't fault Leo.

adamantium did not exist prior to that shield's creation, there was only olympian adamantine which it derived it's name

That's fine, but like I said, it's been referenced before as a Vibranium/Adamantium alloy so I can't really blame Leo.

the origin outways anything else, as adamantium's origin is based of of the shield's.

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Did you forget how to read or something? I never denied that it was a Vibranium/Steel alloy. I simply pointed out that if Leo got his information from a comic, he isn't really at fault.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Did you forget how to read or something?

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

As far as I saw, it was a blast of Odin Force. I'm not going to assume matter manipulation was in play unless it's stated. That's confirmation bias at it's finest. If you want to argue there was more going on then just raw power, then it's on you to provide the evidence.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
When I was referring to physical force, I was talking about a punch, kick ect.

For the record, I'd say that King Thor could rip apart Adamantium or even Captain America's shield with his bare hands if he felt like it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Were you now?

Yes, isent that what I just said?

Originally posted by carver9
Bently...no Herald has accomplished or came close to what Hulk did and Hulk physical fts out weigh a lot of people mentioned in this thread anyways...I would go as far as to say, ALL OF THEM. If Hulk can not ko Wolverine with one punch, no one here can and Hulk has fts of shaking multiple of dimensions during a fight...holding together planets...destroying near by heralds while fighting someone else...busting Onslaught armor...creating shockwaves so powerful that elite heralds were unable to walk through it...thunder clap destroyed dimensions...thunder clap destroyed dimensional barriers put up by high end skyfathers...destroying planetoids twice the size of earth...punching so hard that he punched through a different timeline...punched beings that stood hundreds of ft tall out of orbit...threw Fing Fang from Earth to the moon.

Yeah, like I said before, if Hulk can't do it...someone that is physically stronger than everyone here, no one else on that list is doing it.

*ignore context and that SS Current Hulk never hit Wolverine*

Jesus.

Originally posted by Ize19
Here Uatu the Watcher states that Wolverine's choice to disobey orders and kill the Hulk, created a divergent reality:

So there you go.

What Ifs are not canon anyways, I want a 616 comic that states so.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No, he's right. Cap's shield has no Adamantium in it what-so-ever. Adamantium was created after Cap's shield was for the very purpose of trying to recreate the unique metal compound in said shield.

The concept that Cap's shield is a mix of Adamantium and Vibranium is emphatically untrue. It is a popular misconception that first showed up in the old Marvel Hand Books, but it's accurate.

The shield is implied to be stronger though, future Ultron even made an allow with it instead of using pure Adamantium.

Wolverine gets one shot by Iron Fist, with ease.

Originally posted by cdtm
Wolverine gets one shot by Iron Fist, with ease.

agreed, if logan has his adamantium removed & stands there motionlesss.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
eat it leo 😛

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=thor+dents+adamantium&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1280&bih=599&tbm=isch&tbnid=GiuoKHdnfHm4HM:&imgrefurl=http://www.comicvine.com/wolverine/29-1440/ways-to-kill-wolverine/92-20396/%3Fpage%3D20&docid=faxLaqRjKeW6QM&w=600&h=880&ei=Lp-RTojEGoLe0QH95N0Q&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=169&vpy=104&dur=2547&hovh=272&hovw=185&tx=92&ty=293&page=1&tbnh=126&tbnw=86&start=0&ndsp=27&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0

😛

regular thor has NEVER damaged cap's shield--AT ALL.

now, show me a current scan that proves you and dum and srank are right. 🙂

i know that adamantium was created after the shield, however, (inaccurately i admit) i thought that the 'steel' that was mixed with the vibranium had been named adamantium for some reason. makes no sense i know because i also know TRUE adamantium was discovered and named while trying to recreate the shield.... 😬

for some reason i always thought that unknown metal that joined with vibranium to create the shield alloy (which, unless someone can show me a scan has not been retconned to be simply steel) was called adamantium. regardless, afaik, the shield has never been simply vbranium and 'just steel'. it was always some x-factor metal, hence the inability to duplicate the shield. so, i concede this x-factor was never called adamantium, (though as rage pointed out it has been referenced in continuity at least twice, hence my confusion) but y'all will need to concede it is certainly not steel.... without some proof at least.

as for the hardness, as i said--thor HAS dented primary, true adamtium. he's never even scratched the shield. the intent of the shield is to be the hardest material in marvel. i think that intent has been pretty firmly established over the years.