One Shot Wolverine

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
That is some nice speculatory theory crafting, but it's all bunk. The What If time lines aren't "frequencies" that are running parallel to the main 616 time line, the are branches that diverge from it. The realities are created at the moment of change, not prior to it. Every time someone makes a choice in 616 Marvel, another reality is created where they made a different choice, but that reality is created then and there, it didn't always exist, prior to that it was the same as 616.

I can prove that time travel spawns new timelines, prove that timelines are created by choice.

Originally posted by Bentley
I can prove that time travel spawns new timelines, prove that timelines are created by choice.

Here Uatu the Watcher states that Wolverine's choice to disobey orders and kill the Hulk, created a divergent reality:

So there you go.

Are you guys discussing the Reigning when King Thor incinerated Wolverine? It's not cannon to the 616 anymore but I think it's pretty clear that entities on his level have the power to easily tear apart Adamantium and such even with sheer force.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Are you guys discussing the Reigning when King Thor incinerated Wolverine? It's not cannon to the 616 anymore but I think it's pretty clear that entities on his level have the power to easily tear apart Adamantium and such even with sheer force.

Agreed.

And I still don't see how it can't be canon because alt timeline, when the Thor from this timeline remembers doing everything the supposedly alt Thor did.

That doesn't happen in What If's. As far as 616 Thor is concerned, he lived this "non canon" story..

In other words, the concept of 616 vs non 616 is that you can't alter timelines, only create alternate timelines.

Yet, whatever Thor did obviously altered the timeline. If it didn't, there'd be two Thor's, one being native to the timeline, and one from the alt timeline.

So I call shenanigans on The Reigning being non canon, any more than I'd consider feats that involved Doom's special "anti alt timeline" machines being non canon, because it wouldn't create a branching timeline.

The Reigning has always counted to me. At the very least it's the next best thing to a 616 book. We aren't comic book characters, we know how those situations played out.

cap's shield>adamantium

Originally posted by leonidas
cap's shield>adamantium

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Are you guys discussing the Reigning when King Thor incinerated Wolverine? It's not cannon to the 616 anymore but I think it's pretty clear that entities on his level have the power to easily tear apart Adamantium and such even with sheer force.

Originally posted by Bentley
Hulk destroyed a planetoid from the collateral damage of one of his punches. A single punch by the way.

Superman has been doing feats like those through all his career.

Prime retcons Logan.

The rest can't dent adamantium with a single hit, but Wolverine can be rendered unconscious by much less. If he's not allowed to move, every class 100 should ko him, if he is, just the afore mentioned and speedblitzers can take him.

Bently...no Herald has accomplished or came close to what Hulk did and Hulk physical fts out weigh a lot of people mentioned in this thread anyways...I would go as far as to say, ALL OF THEM. If Hulk can not ko Wolverine with one punch, no one here can and Hulk has fts of shaking multiple of dimensions during a fight...holding together planets...destroying near by heralds while fighting someone else...busting Onslaught armor...creating shockwaves so powerful that elite heralds were unable to walk through it...thunder clap destroyed dimensions...thunder clap destroyed dimensional barriers put up by high end skyfathers...destroying planetoids twice the size of earth...punching so hard that he punched through a different timeline...punched beings that stood hundreds of ft tall out of orbit...threw Fing Fang from Earth to the moon.

Yeah, like I said before, if Hulk can't do it...someone that is physically stronger than everyone here, no one else on that list is doing it.

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Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
then primary adamatium? why do you think this?

it's been stated in continuity to be a unique alloy of adamantium AND vibranium. non-odinforce thor has also failed to even SCRATCH it with his hammer, while he has outright dented primary adamantium.

cap's shield is vibranium + steel (iron)

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine is easily the most broken character in the game right now, so I think we can all predict how that fight will play out... exactly the same as in the comics, Wolverine will lay down an effortless one sided beat down on Iron Fist, while Mindset cries in the corner.

Not as broken as Dante.

Originally posted by SquallX
Not as broken as Dante.

Naah, Wolverine is more broken imo. I hate when people play with the character. I also hate playing against Dante but it isn't as bad.

Originally posted by wildernesss
interesting scan, but carefully read what richards says in the following panel; logan was "still too dazed" from the thing's "initial impact" to react quickly enough. clearly, logan would not be substantially dazed unless his HF had already been partially overloaded....which is evident by what richards says. therefore, I wouldn't regard this as a one punch KO. even if richards hadn't said that i would regard this as PIS. logan's taken far far far more punishment without a KO in sight. In fact, the thing took less
damage from WW hulk than logan....but was KOed. logan
was not.

also, logan's HF has been upgraded since then iirc.

Yeah, we all know that, but you have to admit that its a wonderful scan nontheless.

Juggernaut has already one shotted him before so there's one 😄

Originally posted by psycho gundam
cap's shield is vibranium + steel (iron)

nuh-uh.

Originally posted by leonidas
nuh-uh.

No, he's right. Cap's shield has no Adamantium in it what-so-ever. Adamantium was created after Cap's shield was for the very purpose of trying to recreate the unique metal compound in said shield.

The concept that Cap's shield is a mix of Adamantium and Vibranium is emphatically untrue. It is a popular misconception that first showed up in the old Marvel Hand Books, but it's accurate.

Originally posted by Newjak
Juggernaut has already one shotted him before so there's one 😄