Originally posted by PillarofOsirisIt's half of the total. I have told you my stance countless times so why ask me the same question again when I've made myself perfectly clear.
Even if you were right (which you're not) isn't "half of infinity" infinitely big then anyway?If half of infinity isn't infinitely big, how big is it then? (i.e. half of 4 is 2. What mathematical term would you use to describe half of infinity?)
If you're claiming Superman didn't lift infinite weight, how much did he lift, since you claim he only lifted half of infinity? A million tons? A billion tons? A trillion tons? Which one describes half of infinity?
Also, I'm curious about your understanding of zero. Is half of zero less than zero?
Originally posted by -Pr-Half of the total. It's an quantifiable feat and a feat in which he was a peer to an alternate CM.
then quantify half of infinity.assuming half of infinity can even exist.
Originally posted by Sirius77If it weighs the same then help isn't needed.
Half of infinite is still infinity, otherwise infinity wouldn't be infinite if it could be subtracted from or added to. It isn't a number, it's a concept that has no beginning and no end by definition.Personally, superman takes this imo.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
It being quantifiable does make it less stupid.Any other considerations like; 'how can the people even survive moving that fast while being carried by the flash', is explained away by the speed force anyway.
Wrong.
I am referring to this instance, from the Trial by fire storyline (as ever, please excuse my camerawork):
Flash evacuates 532000 people to a safe point 35 miles away, by carrying them, 'sometimes one at a time, sometimes two'. in 0.00001 microseconds.
So assuming a round trip of 70 miles, and 266,000 trips (assuming he carried them all 2 by 2), that means the Flash travelled 18620000 miles. In 0.00001 microseconds.
So his speed was...6.7x10^18 mph.
The speed of light is 670616629 mph. So he travelled FAR in the excess of the speed of light (could someone check my calculations please?).
A quantifiable feat. Which is still silly.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's half of the total. I have told you my stance countless times so why ask me the same question again when I've made myself perfectly clear.Half of the total. It's an quantifiable feat and a feat in which he was a peer to an alternate CM.
Ok, so by your admission, its quantifiable. Has anyone else lifted half of infinity then?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wrong.I am referring to this instance, from the Trial by fire storyline (as ever, please excuse my camerawork):
Flash evacuates 532000 people to a safe point 35 miles away, by carrying them, 'sometimes one at a time, sometimes two'. in 0.00001 microseconds.
So assuming a round trip of 70 miles, and 266,000 trips (assuming he carried them all 2 by 2), that means the Flash travelled 18620000 miles. In 0.00001 microseconds.
So his speed was...6.7x10^18 mph.
The speed of light is 670616629 mph. So he travelled FAR in the excess of the speed of light (could someone check my calculations please?).
A quantifiable feat. Which is still silly.
Uh. Yes. I knew the feat you spoke of.
And yes, it is quantifiable and has been quantified on this forum before, and yes, it is infinitely less silly than something as unquantifiable as lifting infinity.
Why? Because Flash's calc'd speed for that feat is well within his capabilities.
Superman lifting ['half'] of infinity would imply that his punching power would also be infinite. It isn't.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Uh. Yes. I knew the feat you spoke of.And yes, it is quantifiable and has been quantified on this forum before, and yes, it is infinitely less silly than something as unquantifiable as lifting infinity.
Why? Because Flash's calc'd speed for that feat is well within his capabilities.
Superman lifting ['half'] of infinity would imply that his punching power would also be infinite. It isn't.
Yes, its unquantifiable normally - but as per the stips of this thread, we are using their most ridonkulous feats. Lifiting half of infinity simply means that unless we can show Thor/Hulk/Gladiator/MM/Sentry et al lifting half or 75% or all of infinity, then Superman and others of his ilk takes it out of the list.
^ By that token then, which isn't unreasonable since you're just taking the feats at face value, Ultraman should undeniably be the strongest then.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85You could have just read the comic itself that stated Flash was running at near light speeds.
I'm a fool of a Took - I was out by a factor of three. His speed is actually 6.7 x 10^ 21, or 9990805044591 times the speed of light.Well within his capabilities???
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, its unquantifiable normally - but as per the stips of this thread, we are using their most ridonkulous feats. Lifiting half of infinity simply means that unless we can show Thor/Hulk/Gladiator/MM/Sentry et al lifting half or 75% or all of infinity, then Superman and others of his ilk takes it out of the list.
this is a great comment. seconded.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm a fool of a Took - I was out by a factor of three. His speed is actually 6.7 x 10^ 21, or 9990805044591 times the speed of light.Well within his capabilities???
And yes, that figure is well within his abilities. The Flash can react to things that happen within less than an attosecond. .00001 microseconds is 10 million attoseconds. So he had plenty of time to pull off that feat. It probably felt like thousands of years to him.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, its unquantifiable normally - but as per the stips of this thread, we are using their most ridonkulous feats. Lifiting half of infinity simply means that unless we can show Thor/Hulk/Gladiator/MM/Sentry et al lifting half or 75% or all of infinity, then Superman and others of his ilk takes it out of the list.