Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
Superman definitely does.I don't have the scan on hand, but him tearing through that moon following Luthor being elected President is more impressive, but that might count as a striking feat.
Pretty much. That would be like Grey Hulk tearing through an asteroid twice the size of earth.
Now I'd say Thor is the strongest here, but I would like to weigh in on the Hercules/Superman feat debate. A universe is mostly empty, massless void. Even if the space of the universe were infinite, the matter within it, while enormous in sum, is still finite, and therefore the combined mass of the universe is never going to be infinite. If someone had trillions of years and an amazing calculator they could put a weight on a universe, unlike a literally infinite in weight object.
Originally posted by marvelmadness13
Now I'd say Thor is the strongest here, but I would like to weigh in on the Hercules/Superman feat debate. A universe is mostly empty, massless void. Even if the space of the universe were infinite, the matter within it, while enormous in sum, is still finite, and therefore the combined mass of the universe is never going to be infinite. If someone had trillions of years and an amazing calculator they could put a weight on a universe, unlike a literally infinite in weight object.
Are you saying that a percentage ("mostly empty"😉 of infinity is finite? 😉
Does anyone have proof that the book you guys are talking about has infinite weight? It's a magical book right? It doesn't necessary have to have infinite weight? I've never seen the scan in all the year I've been here, only heard about it...
And assuming for a second superman lifted it, did any other bricks attempt to?
Originally posted by rotiart
Does anyone have proof that the book you guys are talking about has infinite weight? It's a magical book right? It doesn't necessary have to have infinite weight? I've never seen the scan in all the year I've been here, only heard about it...And assuming for a second superman lifted it, did any other bricks attempt to?
It's from Final Crisis, but I'm not sure which issue.
Originally posted by rotiart
Does anyone have proof that the book you guys are talking about has infinite weight? It's a magical book right? It doesn't necessary have to have infinite weight? I've never seen the scan in all the year I've been here, only heard about it...And assuming for a second superman lifted it, did any other bricks attempt to?
Both Captain Marvel and Supes lifted it together and Ultraman lifted it by himself.
Just like you said, its a magical item which might not even have the slightest weight to it...especially if Ultraman single handily lifted it up with ease.
That's like me saying Thor is the strongest here since he is the only one capable of lifting Mjlonir.
Originally posted by Mshinu
Are you saying that a percentage ("mostly empty"😉 of infinity is finite? 😉
No, I'm saying that only the matter in a universe has weight. Empty space has no mass, whether it's three feet across or infinite in scale, its weight is zero. All you're lifting when you lift a universe is the finite matter within, therefore lifting a universe is not an infinite strength feat.
Originally posted by carver9
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength3.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength4.jpgI could post this and no one would be able to match it.
That's not really anything to write home about.
Originally posted by carver9herculese could do it cause during wwh, banner said he was one of the people able to stop him, even though he beat his ass it's still valid.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength3.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkstrength4.jpgI could post this and no one would be able to match it.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Lol you really are a moron.Either we can fix a finite limit on Herc and Superman's strength or we must give them both equal benefits of the doubt.
you're projecting your own idiocy onto me because you failed to think it through thoroughly.
superman's "infinite strength" feat will never be salvagable or usable, but MUST be given the benefit of the doubt by default? lolz, that's the most idiotic statement I have ever read on these forums.
whatever you beleive about the feats to suit your own agenda is your prerogative. however, degree matters . superman's feat cannot be give then benefit of the doubt, nor will it ever be usable because it is impossible even within the continuity & context of the dc universe. hercs feat, otoa, is another story. the weight/mass of the marvel universe can/could/and may have already been revealed. the weight of our known universe is supposed to be 100 trillion trillion trillion trillion tonnes.
Originally posted by wildernesss
you're projecting your own idiocy onto me because you failed to think it through thoroughly.superman's "infinite strength" feat will never be salvagable or usable, but MUST be given the benefit of the doubt by default? lolz, that's the most idiotic statement I have ever read on these forums.
whatever you beleive about the feats to suit your own agenda is your
. superman's feat cannot be give then benefit of the doubt, nor will it ever be usable because it is impossible even within the continuity & context of the dc universe. hercs feat, otoa, is another story. the weight/mass of the marvel universe can/could/and may have already been revealed. the weight of our universe is supposed to be 100 trillion trillion trillion trillion tonnes. [/B]
prerogative. however, [B]degree matters
Just that there's no reason why Hercules should be given a pass for his feat while Superman's is arbitrarily discarded because we "know he can't".
We know Superman isn't infinitely strong? Okay whatever.
But we don't know that Herc isn't a trillion, trillion times stronger than all his supposed peers because he's got an OMGQUANTIFIABLE lifting feat that makes every other herald lifting feat combined look pitiful?
What the Hell? On what planet is this sound logic?
For our purposes having Universe level strength and infinite strength are the same damn thing: horribly ridiculous when applied to characters like Herc and Superman.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
herculese could do it cause during wwh, banner said he was one of the people able to stop him, even though he beat his ass it's still valid.
Hercules probably could do it...not saying that he couldnt but my post wasn't to deny a strength ft from anyone, I am posting scans of raw strength. This isn't about who could probably do what, the thread starter asked for proof, so I'm giving it to him.
Can anyone match it?
