Originally posted by RobtardWhatever it hits is destroyed. If it hits the titanic the piece it hits get destroyed not the entire ship.
Tombstone in one of the films wasn't destroyed, genius.Gandalf being far more powerful here is relevant to this thread. Please attempt to follow the discussion instead of ranting and bringing in irrelevant points.
Incorrect, again. Gandalf wins.
Gandalf doesn't have anything more powerful to bring to the table here which is even remotely as powerful as a giant fire basilisk or the killing curse.
How does Gandalf win ? At least attempt to debate.
Originally posted by NephthysIf you are referring to the Terminator thread, I pretty handily won that thread. You established nothing at all, short of your ability to deny evidence.
As I established in the previous thread, Gandalf is hardly a significant threat to powerful combatants. He doesn't have what it takes to win this.
A single telekinetic thrust will cave Voldemort's face in. Gandalf, and by powerscaling, Saruman, are magnitudes more durable than Voldemort. They are injured by eachother's telekinesis.
I don't think I need to prove Gandalf the White is more powerful than both.
A single thrust of his staff, and Voldemort finds himself suffering from a severe case of deadness.
Originally posted by NephthysDo you brush your face against an anthill, to argue with feeble insects who don't even care to listen?
Last time I checked my previous post was unanswered. I'm not the one without the balls to follow through.Gandalfs TK is weaksauce.
Also, that was a sexual proposition, but you missed it. A shame, you really missed out. estahuh
In terms of lifting things, I would mostly agree, in that it doesn't seem very prolongable. More a bust of force incited by will really. But it is powerful enough to wound Gandalf and Saruman, who are clearly much much much more durable than Voldemort. It also, Saruman's anyway, was able to propel him toward the top of Isengard's tower.
Also, Gandalf breaks Voldemort's wand ftw, giggity.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Do you brush your face against an anthill, to argue with feeble insects who don't even care to listen?Also, that was a sexual proposition, but you missed it. A shame, you really missed out. estahuh
In terms of lifting things, I would mostly agree, in that it doesn't seem very prolongable. More a bust of force incited by will really. But it is powerful enough to wound Gandalf and Saruman, who are clearly much much much more durable than Voldemort. It also, Saruman's anyway, was able to propel him toward the top of Isengard's tower.
Also, Gandalf breaks Voldemort's wand ftw, giggity.
Every day. Theres an infestation of the things in the institution.
Dun care. I'm straight anyways.
Gandalf and Saruman are not especially durable at all. And those bursts of force were only hard enough to make them pratfall, lol. I'm sure Voldemort will survive somehow. 🙄
Gandalf has never demonstrated such fine control with TK and he hasn't won't get out a 'your wand is broken' before he eats a death spell.
Originally posted by NemeBroYou say magnitudes more durable when Grima stabs Saruman into submission. You can't seem to make up your mind here. Tk might give him a bruise on his cheek or cause a tummy ache of some kind but these is a man's fight. Most of the time Gandalf just bumps someone in the head with his staff on the battlefield which doesn' treally cause all that much damage if any.
If you are referring to the Terminator thread, I pretty handily won that thread. You established nothing at all, short of your ability to deny evidence.A single telekinetic thrust will cave Voldemort's face in. Gandalf, and by powerscaling, Saruman, are magnitudes more durable than Voldemort. They are injured by eachother's telekinesis.
I don't think I need to prove Gandalf the White is more powerful than both.
A single thrust of his staff, and Voldemort finds himself suffering from a severe case of deadness.
Voldemort wins, babe.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Whatever it hits is destroyed. If it hits the titanic the piece it hits get destroyed not the entire ship.Gandalf doesn't have anything more powerful to bring to the table here which is even remotely as powerful as a giant fire basilisk or the killing curse.
How does Gandalf win ? At least attempt to debate.
Incorrect again. Watch the films; read the wiki-link.
He brings death to Voldermort and quickly. That's enough to win the thread.
LoL, already covered over and over. Magic or he could smash Voldermort's head apart. TK + Sword = dead Voldermort. /thread.
Originally posted by RobtardBlocked means in the wiki link that it doesn't keep going any further if it hits an object.
Incorrect again. Watch the films; read the wiki-link.He brings death to Voldermort and quickly. That's enough to win the thread.
LoL, already covered over and over. Magic or he could smash Voldermort's head apart. TK + Sword = dead Voldermort. /thread.
How does he bring death quickly to Voldemort ? Name one character he brought death swiftly to. Please.
The avada kedavra kills Gabdalf dead. His staff can be destroyed and the avada kedavra destroys it. What is Gandalf going to do with Voldemort swipes his wand causing it to cut him or using Crucio.
He can choose to torture Gandalf if he so desires.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Every day. Theres an infestation of the things in the institution.Dun care. I'm straight anyways.
Gandalf and Saruman are not especially durable at all. And those bursts of force were only hard enough to make them pratfall, lol. I'm sure Voldemort will survive somehow. 🙄
Gandalf has never demonstrated such fine control with TK and he hasn't won't get out a 'your wand is broken' before he eats a death spell.
Don't lie to me boy.
Not especially durable at all? I guess I must of imagined Gandalf falling kilometers while taking punches to the face from a Balrog that was crumbling the stonework of Moria physically as it chased them. I've seen Luffy punch people full force without knocking them into the horizon. That doesn't actually take away from his strength feats. Please stop this.
Yeah no. All it takes is a quick thrust of his staff to at the very least incapacitate Voldemort. If he survives the first, the next will kill him.
The magic of LotR, though subtle and less versatile, is being underrated.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You say magnitudes more durable when Grima stabs Saruman into submission. You can't seem to make up your mind here. Tk might give him a bruise on his cheek or cause a tummy ache of some kind but these is a man's fight. Most of the time Gandalf just bumps someone in the head with his staff on the battlefield which doesn' treally cause all that much damage if any.Voldemort wins, babe.
Grima stabbed a Saruman whose power had been broken. Not to mention a knife kind of can lessen the strength to durability difference.
The TK will kill Voldemort, who has no notable durability feats I can recall.
Gandalf "bumping someone on the head" with his staff kills Orcs with a single hit.
Try harder.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Blocked means in the wiki link that it doesn't keep going any further if it hits an object.How does he bring death quickly to Voldemort ? Name one character he brought death swiftly to. Please.
The avada kedavra kills Gabdalf dead. His staff can be destroyed and the avada kedavra destroys it. What is Gandalf going to do with Voldemort swipes his wand causing it to cut him or using Crucio.
He can choose to torture Gandalf if he so desires.
Nor does it "destroy" objects, watch the damn films and pay attention, man.
Told you already. TK + sword would easily do it. Various minions of Sarumon. Did you watch any of the LoTR films?
If it hit him, sure, Gandalf's corporeal body would likely die. It isn't though. His staff can be destroyed by the likes of the Witch King, not a spell designed to kill the living. Easy, he'll TK first.
No, he couldn't, he'd be dead here; rather quickly too.
In truth, Gandalf doesn't have to kill Voldermort to win, he could simply use the fear-magic he used on Bilbo in the beginning of Fellowship and just scare Voldermort into submission; leaving him whimpering in the corner; wetting himself. This would be the easiest way.
Originally posted by NemeBroHis staff was broken not his power. Being stabbed by such a weenie and yet you brag about his durability. Seriously, did you watch the movies in the past 5 years ?
Don't lie to me boy.Not especially durable at all? I guess I must of imagined Gandalf falling kilometers while taking punches to the face from a Balrog that was crumbling the stonework of Moria physically as it chased them. I've seen Luffy punch people full force without knocking them into the horizon. That doesn't actually take away from his strength feats. Please stop this.
Yeah no. All it takes is a quick thrust of his staff to at the very least incapacitate Voldemort. If he survives the first, the next will kill him.
The magic of LotR, though subtle and less versatile, is being underrated.
Grima stabbed a Saruman whose power had been broken. Not to mention a knife kind of can lessen the strength to durability difference.
The TK will kill Voldemort, who has no notable durability feats I can recall.
Gandalf "bumping someone on the head" with his staff kills Orcs with a single hit.
Try harder.
The tk didn't kill anyone. I mean seriously. You use attacks from lotr that don't kill anyone yet claim they can kill. You don't know the first thing about debating. Watch me learn from me.
No, it doesn't. Show me him killing an orc with a single hit. I've seen that staff just knock people down like that crazy old bastiche who burned to death.
Voldemort has several ways to crush him.
Originally posted by RobtardShopw me one instance of it not destroying what it hits. You seem to think if it hits the empire state building that if the building isn't destroyed then it failed.
Nor does it "destroy" objects, watch the damn films and pay attention, man.Told you already. TK + sword would easily do it. Various minions of Sarumon. Did you watch any of the LoTR films?
If it hit him, sure, Gandalf's corporeal body would likely die. It isn't though. His staff can be destroyed by the likes of the Witch King, not a spell designed to kill the living. Easy, he'll TK first.
No, he couldn't, he'd be dead here; rather quickly too.
In truth, Gandalf doesn't have to kill Voldermort to win, he could simply use the fear-magic he used on Bilbo in the beginning of Fellowship and just scare Voldermort into submission; leaving him whimpering in the corner; wetting himself. This would be the easiest way.
Voldemort has tk of his own. Gandalf used tk in a losing battle against saruman and only managed to knock old man Saruman to the ground with minor cuts and bruises. LOL. The tk hits about as hard as McClane which isn't very hard.
Glad you agree gandalf dies. Just like in the potter films their souls aren't destroyed just their corporeal bodies. So why mention it here like Gandalf is special in the regard he lives on just like every other HP character after death.
The spell destroys objects which get in the way. Gandalf's staff has already been destroyed by someone who was owned by a torch. Not only that the man swung it wildly and the Witch King was unable to best him. That's who bested Gandalf.
Voldemort is far quicker and will have Gandalf on his back writhing in pain.
Bilbo is a hobbit who is scared of someone over 6 foot let alone a wizard. Voldemort would laugh release a fire basilisk and proceed on to destroy the entire hobbit village just because he's mean.
Originally posted by quanchi112
His staff was broken not his power. Being stabbed by such a weenie and yet you brag about his durability. Seriously, did you watch the movies in the past 5 years ?The tk didn't kill anyone. I mean seriously. You use attacks from lotr that don't kill anyone yet claim they can kill. You don't know the first thing about debating. Watch me learn from me.
No, it doesn't. Show me him killing an orc with a single hit. I've seen that staff just knock people down like that crazy old bastiche who burned to death.
Voldemort has several ways to crush him. Shopw me one instance of it not destroying what it hits. You seem to think if it hits the empire state building that if the building isn't destroyed then it failed.
Voldemort has tk of his own. Gandalf used tk in a losing battle against saruman and only managed to knock old man Saruman to the ground with minor cuts and bruises. LOL. The tk hits about as hard as McClane which isn't very hard.
Glad you agree gandalf dies. Just like in the potter films their souls aren't destroyed just their corporeal bodies. So why mention it here like Gandalf is special in the regard he lives on just like every other HP character after death.
The spell destroys objects which get in the way. Gandalf's staff has already been destroyed by someone who was owned by a torch. Not only that the man swung it wildly and the Witch King was unable to best him. That's who bested Gandalf.
Voldemort is far quicker and will have Gandalf on his back writhing in pain.
Bilbo is a hobbit who is scared of someone over 6 foot let alone a wizard. Voldemort would laugh release a fire basilisk and proceed on to destroy the entire hobbit village just because he's mean.
The tombstone in the graveyard scene, so that. Show me one instance where the death-spell "destroyed" something, especially something powerful like Gandalf's magical staff.
I said "TK+sword", genius, read; then reply. TK knocks Voldermort on his ass and stuns him; sword splits his bald head in twain.
Watch the films and pay attention, Gandalf has a sword too. Though a staff to the face would end Voldermort.
I said "if" the spell should hit him; it won't though. You're arguing a moot point yet again.
Wrong; repeating fail over and over won't make it true. The death-spell is a killing spell, not a "destroy everything it hits boom!" as you're ranting.
Wrong yet again, at least you're consistent. Gandalf is far quicker; his TK takes an instant, unlike Voldermort spells where he has to do a phaggy little hand-motion and mutter an incantation.
Wrong, it was a form of magical fear that Gandalf used, as we see him change appearance and the room darkens; it would fear Voldermort just the same. Fight's over before it starts; Voldermort cowers and wets himself. Gandalf wins. The end.
Originally posted by RobtardWhich movie ? You know there's a thing called youtube not some oh yeah the tombstone out of like 8 movies.
The tombstone in the graveyard scene, so that. Show me one instance where the death-spell "destroyed" something, especially something powerful like Gandalf's magical staff.I said "TK+sword", genius, read; then reply. TK knocks Voldermort on his ass and stuns him; sword splits his bald head in twain.
Watch the films and pay attention, Gandalf has a sword too. Though a staff to the face would end Voldermort.
I said "if" the spell should hit him; it won't though. You're arguing a moot point yet again.
Wrong; repeating fail over and over won't make it true. The death-spell is a killing spell, not a "destroy everything it hits boom!" as you're ranting.
Wrong yet again, at least you're consistent. Gandalf is far quicker; his TK takes an instant, unlike Voldermort spells where he has to do a phaggy little hand-motion and mutter an incantation.
Wrong, it was a form of magical fear that Gandalf used, as we see him change appearance and the room darkens; it would fear Voldermort just the same. Fight's over before it starts; Voldermort cowers and wets himself. Gandalf wins. The end.
Tk didn't stun anyone long enough for Gandalf to charge his sword and run in and attack. In fact the tk battle was back and forth. Two old men attacking the other's liver spots.
Yes, a sword he will never ever get to use since Voldemort can apparate, can blast physical beams of energy, can wave his wand and bring unspeakable agony upon the Dalf, and can one shot kill.
It will hit him. Voldemort will barrage him with attacks while Gandalf's best efforts will be a bright light or tk that causes as much pain as a severe wedgie.
It destroys objects it hits and kills living peeps.
Gandalf was getting tk'd left and right in an instant. He was slow. Voldemort is shown blocking blasts easily aimed at him. The guy is much quicker and has far better ranged attacks along with them being far more powerful. He can apparate unlike Gandalf.
Gandalf used this tactic against a weakminded hobbit not against anyone in battle so claiming it works against the dark lord is about as pathetic as you can get.
Voldemort starts this fight by tking Gandalf on his ass across the room giving him a major gash. While he's struggling to come too Voldemort starts eating hobbits right in front of him. Gandalf screams no, I can't take this and charges his sword and does himself in.
Originally posted by RobtardI am the great quanchi.
Hahahaaahahahaaaahaahhahahahaaahhahaaa, now you're scripting the fight, how RJ of you.Gandalf wins because he's better. Accept it and move on, your fanboy is showing.
Voldemort wins because he's more handsome, more powerful, and faster than the geriatric he's facing.
Didn't Aragorn's sword burn his hand and seemed to be on fire when they encountered Gandalf in Fangorn? Gandalf didn't speak a word when he blocked a thrown axe, an arrow shot at him from point-blank range and a sword thrust. Voldemort's wand might begin to burn or his body before he would be able to speak a word.
If a little kid can beat Voldemort, then how can Voldemort expect to beat Gandalf who killed a Balrog after two days of fighting? This Balrog was no mere Balrog either. The Balrog of Morgoth . . . Morgoth was worse and more powerful than Sauron.
Gandalf has experience and knowledge not only from formal magic training, but other teachers like the Elves. It is similiar to Jedi or Sith training where each student has multiple teachers, but Gandalf had hundreds of years of training from various diferent Masters. How many years did Voldemort have?
If Voldemort fought in the War of the Ring, he wouldn't survive the Battle of Helms Deep, The Seige of Minas Tirith or the Battle of the Black Gate. It was dirty, close fighting where a wand would be useless and magical powers. The only useful tool is a sword.